Popular Post MadGenius Posted Friday at 02:16 PM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 02:16 PM Several of those 9.9s had a miswrap. I would think that wouldn't be allowed in a 9.9 grade. jcjames, Brandon Shepherd, MAY1979 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastEnd1 Posted Friday at 02:18 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:18 PM I could be wrong but I think 9.9s allow for small mis-wraps so long as there are no other defects. I believe that's what separates a 9.9 from a 10 which can't have any mis-wrap at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted Friday at 02:18 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:18 PM On 10/18/2024 at 10:16 AM, MadGenius said: Several of those 9.9s had a miswrap. I would think that wouldn't be allowed in a 9.9 grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybolt Posted Friday at 02:20 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:20 PM My gut tells be that a prominent collector / dealer called CGC before sending in these books via UV and specifically told them he was purposely holding onto these books until CGC's stance on 9.9s and 10.0s changed. I'm not saying this was an inside job, but I bet the grader had some prior notification to look for some sort of 9.9 prescreening. Let's be honest here, if any of us submitted these exact same books via any tier, the chances of us getting even 1 9.9 grade would be 1 in 100. jcjames, BEAUMONTS and RockMyAmadeus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grendel013 Posted Friday at 02:22 PM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 02:22 PM On 10/18/2024 at 10:16 AM, MadGenius said: Several of those 9.9s had a miswrap. I would think that wouldn't be allowed in a 9.9 grade. On 10/18/2024 at 10:18 AM, EastEnd1 said: I could be wrong but I think 9.9s allow for small mis-wraps so long as there are no other defects. I believe that's what separates a 9.9 from a 10 which can't have any mis-wrap at all. Miswraps shoud not be allowed in a 9.9. If so I don't know why we bother to grade books. fast eddie, skybolt, Larryw7 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MadGenius Posted Friday at 02:28 PM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 02:28 PM On 10/18/2024 at 10:22 AM, grendel013 said: Miswraps shoud not be allowed in a 9.9. If so I don't know why we bother to grade books. Also, if any buyer is willing to pay 10-20x the value of a 9.8 for a miswrapped 9.9 they are dumb. Brandon Shepherd, GeeksAreMyPeeps, buttock and 6 others 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadGenius Posted Friday at 02:34 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:34 PM On 10/18/2024 at 10:20 AM, skybolt said: My gut tells be that a prominent collector / dealer called CGC before sending in these books via UV and specifically told them he was purposely holding onto these books until CGC's stance on 9.9s and 10.0s changed. I'm not saying this was an inside job, but I bet the grader had some prior notification to look for some sort of 9.9 prescreening. Let's be honest here, if any of us submitted these exact same books via any tier, the chances of us getting even 1 9.9 grade would be 1 in 100. And that is the problem. Dr. Balls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel013 Posted Friday at 02:36 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:36 PM On 10/18/2024 at 10:28 AM, MadGenius said: Also, if any buyer is willing to pay 10-20x the value of a 9.8 for a miswrapped 9.9 they are dumb. 100%. I'm okay with 9.8 having a miswrap but even then I'm not paying FMV. No different if the pages aren't white. It's acceptable at a 9.8 but it's not selling for a "premium'. Once you say 9.9, that translates to "Mint" and "Mint" doesn't have miswraps, printer defects, off-white pages or ANYTHING worthy of a grader's note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted Friday at 02:56 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:56 PM Larryw7 and ADAMANTIUM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanJD Posted Friday at 02:57 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:57 PM On 10/18/2024 at 9:12 AM, skybolt said: I would bet that the books are 9.8s and encapsulated incorrectly as 9.9s. Looking at this example, I thought that a book had to be perfectly centered to be considered a 9.9. This book definitely has a slight miscut along the spine from top (no white is showing) to bottom. I looked at the scan for this on CGCs website. It has a few noticeable markings on the right edge and corners to go with the miswrap. Looks no different than many of the somewhat older 9.8s. Looks much better than the recent 9.8s I have seen for sale that have color breaking spine ticks though…. The new norm? Everyone start paying to have your 9.8s resubmitted!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0r0d Posted Friday at 03:10 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 03:10 PM On 10/18/2024 at 5:56 AM, BEAUMONTS said: The only next logical step for CGC after pumping the 9.9 and 10 balloon in the forseeable future is then roll out a new tier. Possibly a Metropolsucks inspired incremental grading system. Possibly a 10.1 Ultra Mint Clown White Pages to whomp those lowly 9.9's and super common 10's, then keep on going incrementally from there . Like greed the sky is the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastEnd1 Posted Friday at 03:12 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:12 PM On 10/18/2024 at 10:22 AM, grendel013 said: Miswraps shoud not be allowed in a 9.9. If so I don't know why we bother to grade books. Yeah, not saying I agree with it, but I think that's the way CGC views it. grendel013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Balls Posted Friday at 03:34 PM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 03:34 PM Why not introduce grades that carry over to hundredths place - we're way beyond jumping the shark, this would get collectors to resub their subs! Resubmit your 9.8 which could come back a 9.88, which is WAY more valuable than a 9.85! /You're welcome CGC, please send royalty checks to my mailing address on file. MatterEaterLad, DanJD, Cat and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlterEgo2024 Posted Friday at 03:36 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:36 PM (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW2lzk5_JWM&ab_channel=Shazam%21-Rare%26ObscureMusic Edited Friday at 03:41 PM by AlterEgo2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted Friday at 03:41 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:41 PM On 10/18/2024 at 10:20 AM, skybolt said: My gut tells be that a prominent collector / dealer called CGC before sending in these books via UV and specifically told them he was purposely holding onto these books until CGC's stance on 9.9s and 10.0s changed. I'm not saying this was an inside job, but I bet the grader had some prior notification to look for some sort of 9.9 prescreening. Let's be honest here, if any of us submitted these exact same books via any tier, the chances of us getting even 1 9.9 grade would be 1 in 100. The graphs recently shown don't back this up. I think it would be correct to say the odds would have been 1 in 100 a year or two ago but for some reason it's becoming much more common. I doubt the quality of submitted books have gotten that much better (at least to the degree seen in the graphs) so it has to be a loosening of standards for those grades. I don't have a dog in the fight since I don't even chase 9.8s let along higher grades but the data coming in has to be concerning for those that do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Cataldo Posted Friday at 03:44 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:44 PM On 10/18/2024 at 5:00 AM, Gaard said: It's like they think, correctly think, this will blow away and be forgotten, like all the rest of their questionable/bad decisions. It will, and immediately. Do you know how I'm certain? THE MONEY KEEPS ROLLING IN. That's how I know. Cat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted Friday at 03:49 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:49 PM 21 books were graded on Sept 11 but two of them were graded on Sept 24. I think someone did a sloppy job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Surfer Posted Friday at 03:54 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:54 PM On 10/18/2024 at 5:56 AM, BEAUMONTS said: The only next logical step for CGC after pumping the 9.9 and 10 balloon in the forseeable future is then roll out a new tier. Possibly a Metropolsucks inspired incremental grading system. Possibly a 10.1 Ultra Mint Clown White Pages to whomp those lowly 9.9's and super common 10's, then keep on going incrementally from there . Like greed the sky is the limit. “clown white pages” Larryw7, Cat and grendel013 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Surfer Posted Friday at 03:55 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:55 PM Wonder if anyone has been shown the door at CGC this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tec-Tac-Toe Posted Friday at 04:30 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:30 PM grendel013 and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
