G.A.tor Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 wow, those Adv pulps comparisons are outstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 wow, those Adv pulps comparisons are outstanding! I agree. Here's another ... not quite as blatant, could be a coincidence... plus the Action 2 came out before the Adventure Yarns this time: Dec. 1938 for the pulp versus July 1938 for the comic - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miraclo Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Wow, this thread is simply amazing. After spending almost all day yesterday at work going through this thread I must say I am simply blown away.This thread has me now officially hooked on these boards. Look forward to meeting you guys. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Wow, this thread is simply amazing. After spending almost all day yesterday at work going through this thread I must say I am simply blown away.This thread has me now officially hooked on these boards. Look forward to meeting you guys. Jason Bangzoom has a habit of doing that. Welcome to the Boards! Looking forward to more posts from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Inspired by BB's posting of early 1960's fanzines, I went digging through stacks of boxes looking for my own collection. I never did find them. But I did find some early New York Comic Convention programs. 1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 1971 I would love to own the OA to the bottom right Steranko cover. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-Gun Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Great looking programs BZ. I only have one program in my collection. Someone sold me a box of comics with Barks Fanzines and a 1980s San Diego Con program. I enjoyed all of the illos and the quality production of the programs and later fanzines. I still enjoy digging through all of the old fanzines and probably have a few that Bill Schelly hasn't written about. bb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 I wonder if Flessel used Winslow Homer's "Breezing Up" as a drawing reference? 1873-1876 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 Here's another ... not quite as blatant, could be a coincidence... plus the Action 2 came out before the Adventure Yarns this time: Dec. 1938 for the pulp versus July 1938 for the comic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 Wow, this thread is simply amazing. After spending almost all day yesterday at work going through this thread I must say I am simply blown away.This thread has me now officially hooked on these boards. Look forward to meeting you guys. I hope you work long hours. There's a heck of a lot of interesting reading choices on these boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 Here's a cover swipe we discussed last year. 1919 NC Wyeth illustration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEyeSees Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 LOVE seeing the swipes guys... I've got at least one I know of, I'll post if I have a moment. The DC cover swipes are incredibly blatant!! And then they have the nerve to sue Fawcett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socratic Wonder Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I wonder if Flessel used Winslow Homer's "Breezing Up" as a drawing reference? 1873-1876 Funny you mention that BZ. In San Diego another collector and I were talking about how that cover was very similar to a Winslow Homer painting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 LOVE seeing the swipes guys... I've got at least one I know of, I'll post if I have a moment. I'd love to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Here's a cover swipe we discussed last year. the swipe is great, that action 8 is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacentaur Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Here's a cover swipe we discussed last year. 1919 NC Wyeth illustration One of the better ones that I've ever seen pointed out - well done, sir! Action 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 So recently I broke down and ordered John Locke's Pulp Fictioneers - Adventures in the Storytelling Business, a collection of articles from the pages of writers' magazines such as Writer's Digest, The Writer, ... The articles selected were written by writers of the time and discuss the profession. I should have bought it sooner as I am enjoying the heck out of it only halfway through it. Apparently, he has another volume or two left, this time focusing not on the writers but on the articles written by editors. Be that as it may, my local library's collection of Writer's Digest goes a little further back than what John was able to assess. So, here's an example of the article one can find in the magazine. This one is from November 1928. I enjoyed it, you also may ... - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 So recently I broke down and ordered John Locke's Pulp Fictioneers - Adventures in the Storytelling Business, a collection of articles from the pages of writers' magazines such as Writer's Digest Thanks Scrooge. On your recommendation, I think I'll order that book. (thumbs u Here's an article from the November, 1940 Writer's Monthly concerning the comic market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 So recently I broke down and ordered John Locke's Pulp Fictioneers - Adventures in the Storytelling Business, a collection of articles from the pages of writers' magazines such as Writer's Digest Thanks Scrooge. On your recommendation, I think I'll order that book. (thumbs u Hopefully you'll like it. There's a lot in there about writers' frustration about editors, inspirations, the competition of new (and cheaper) writers and critics about story quality and market over-extension, ... It's also made me realize how hurtful to the pulp business the market crash and the depression was, which the writers felt bitterly when the word rate dropped significantly. Over were the days when the rate would be 7¢ a word for the best of them all. 2¢ became the normal top rate and some outfit paid beginners ½¢ a word!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 Hopefully you'll like it. There's a lot in there about writers' frustration about editors, inspirations, the competition of new (and cheaper) writers and critics about story quality and market over-extension, ... It's also made me realize how hurtful to the pulp business the market crash and the depression was, which the writers felt bitterly when the word rate dropped significantly. Over were the days when the rate would be 7¢ a word for the best of them all. 2¢ became the normal top rate and some outfit paid beginners ½¢ a word!! Have you read "The Pulp Jungle" by Frank Gruber? I read it when it was first published in 1967 and thought it was great. The book is a quick read but is full of personal info about the life of a working pulp author and details his output. For example, he notes that from August, 1932 through June, 1934, he wrote a grand total of 174 pieces. The total wordage amounted to 620,000 words. He ended up selling 107 of the 174 pieces that he wrote during that period. Gruber states that, "The sale of 107 pieces of a possible 174 may not seem discouraging, but bear with me through the sordid details..." I read the book one rainy afternoon when I was a kid on vacation at the beach and have always remembered it fondly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Hopefully you'll like it. There's a lot in there about writers' frustration about editors, inspirations, the competition of new (and cheaper) writers and critics about story quality and market over-extension, ... It's also made me realize how hurtful to the pulp business the market crash and the depression was, which the writers felt bitterly when the word rate dropped significantly. Over were the days when the rate would be 7¢ a word for the best of them all. 2¢ became the normal top rate and some outfit paid beginners ½¢ a word!! Have you read "The Pulp Jungle" by Frank Gruber? I read it when it was first published in 1967 and thought it was great. The book is a quick read but is full of personal info about the life of a working pulp author and details his output. For example, he notes that from August, 1932 through June, 1934, he wrote a grand total of 174 pieces. The total wordage amounted to 620,000 words. He ended up selling 107 of the 174 pieces that he wrote during that period. Gruber states that, "The sale of 107 pieces of a possible 174 may not seem discouraging, but bear with me through the sordid details..." I read the book one rainy afternoon when I was a kid on vacation at the beach and have always remembered it fondly. I read it a couple of years ago and have photocopies of it. The most memorable part of the book for me was the tomato soup. IIRC, he went to a sandwich shop, one of those automatic ones in Manhattan, sat down, ordered tea or somesuch and proceeded to dump ketchup (free) into the hot water with some salt and voilà, tomato soup!! I agree it's a nice and easy book to read. Another classic is Harold Hershey's Pulpwood Editor. I read the original 1937 book from the library but have since purchased the reprint from Adventure House. I am due to re-read it. At the time I read it, I knew little about pulps and I learned a lot from it. Today I know somewhat more so I need to revisit it more critically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
