Makmorn

Ah yes, the great days of stat cameras, rapidographs, and screens. Thanks for reminding me how old I am Nothing quite like the bright light of a stat camera when you have a hangover. I miss them at times, not a lot, but a little, I was never a stripper, my folks wouldn't allow that. I hope you realize how difficult it was for me to resist posting an inapproriate picture.

Hmm, got an interesting email from Doug a bit ago. I recall when it was offered to me in the 1980's, wondering if it was the Counterfeit copy. But the fellow who sold it to me had a used & torn Warren mags mailing envelope with it & that convinced me it was an Original. I have seen mostly 1st printings for sale over the last 30 years, with only a few 2nd printings. I have never seen an identified Counterfeit copy for sale. Doug Ze plot thickens I still don't get the special staples and paper in the reward flyer either, the original printing did not have those features.

Well, during all this, I emailed Doug Sulipa and this is his response: I only had one copy of Eerie #1 and that was in the Mid 1980's. If my memory serves, the copy that i did have, had that strange 1/4" blue strip on the staples, so i must have been the elusive 2nd Printing. But i think the 2nd prnting is actually lower print & scarcer than the 1st printing, that might explain why it is so hard to find. Thanks! .... DOUG I had hoped he could help a bit more than that

I agree, pretty good thread and much needed for the mag forum. Truth be told, I got my copy in a group of Eerie's and it was just a bonus since one of the books graded out a 9.8, which made it worth it to me for the whole lot. So no, I am not worried or concerned about the outcome. I do find it interesting though about the staples, and the fact Warren mentions them in a couple of locations. Heck, being a showman with a flair for the dramatic, I would not put it past him to have actually printed the second copy just so he could make news. (maybe not, but anything is possible) Whoever printed it, definately had the original film, and access to a printer.

Well upon reading pg 41 of the Warren Companion, Warren specifically mentions the blue staples, that is why I am a bit confused. Why mention the special staples in the flyer and specifically "Blue" staples if it was all just showmanship? Pg 41

Okay, what is specal about the staples and paper in the first print, if that is what is being described?

Then why does the Warren reward flyer describe the second print? "special staples" and "special paper" For what it's worth, the second print I have does not appear to be a photocopy since you can see the way the ink lays that it was done on a printing press.

Somewhere I read in an interview with Warren that he produced and sold copies of Eerie #1 for fans that requested it (second printing). And in the reward flyer he says it was produced and sold, the original was not sold. Don't you find it odd that he clearly describes the second print in the reward flyer if it didn't exist? Just seems like everything points to a second print, including both Overstreet and Warren, yet you say it does not exist. To me there is more proof of a second print than not. What you need is more proof that it does not exist.

Well, explain to me how a guy with a copier made the bald guy suddenly appear in the second print, when he was not visible in the first print? Also, Warren said they were produced and sold: Warren also goes on to state that the original was to cover copywrites.

So Overstreet is completely wrong? Why do they even bother printing that guide then? Wonder what Warren mailed out to people that sent in the coupon for the First Collector's Edition? (see coupons below)

Interesting reads, however to say the second print was the counterfiet is not quite correct. From what I have read, the second print was put out by Warren in 1965 due to clamor from the fans, many were unhappy that the first issue was not available. He printed some just to make them happy, which explains why the bald guy on page 18 is clearly visable, if it was a copy from the original, how would he be there? If you read the $500 reward that Warren ran, it clearly states that in 1965 they produced and sold a limited number of Eerie #1 with special staples and paper. Also they are 5 1/4 by 7 1/4, this is the second printing refered to in overstreet. (mine fits all the criteria, the paper is nice, just not sure what is special about it) I bought my copy from a collector, he had many Warren items of interest, even some Blazing Combat cover proof sheets. (which he gave me one from BC #2, and I think one from BC #3, but I can't seem to locate it right now) He even owned the cover art from Creepy #5 at one time, but sold it before I found him, otherwise my house would be in a second mortgage right now. (not the greatest of the Frazetta covers, but I would love to own it, I have a photo somewhere around here of it in the frame that he sent me) He also gave me one of these green Reward posters, however it seems to be printed on some type of fairly thick card stock, not regular paper.

#19 and #29 are fairly tough in any grade, the rest should be pretty much available if you are not real particular about the grades. The #2, #6, #8, and #16 are fairly tough in high grade, especially the #2 since it has thick ink and seems to crack easily, #9 can be tough since it was low distribution, which was due to a bad blade at the printer. I can't tell you much about the books higher than #32 since I don't collect those, someone else might be able to help with those. As a general rule, the darker the cover, the harder it is to find in high grade.

Only have the first issue, but I'm happy with my copy I was looking at mine earlier today and thinking about having it graded, however they have not graded any of these yet. Probably need to call and be sure before sending anything new down there.

As far as I know, it's from a second print. I believe it was the first print that was copied, at least that is what I have read.

I guess to be fair, we should look at it from the cgc bean counters aspect. It takes time to research this stuff, and there are probably less than 100 out there in the wild, and probably less than half would be graded. Meaning there is very little to gain by grading these, and there is a potential to be wrong. So the juice is not worth the squeeze for them.

It's definately not a second print, the cut is too even (see below) And the guy on page 18 is not even there. (hard to tell from the scan but the staples have a slight color band) So, the question is it an original first print? It looks like one to me, but I have never had one in hand to really check out, the fakes came out about 10 years after the original printing. There are probably people out there that know exactly how to tell, Jim Warren is still alive and knows exactly how to tell the fakes. To bad cgc won't spend the time to find out how to tell the fakes, heck I am sure many people would like them graded whether they said "counterfiet" on the label or not. Just for peace of mind, they do it for other faked comics. Doh, I forgot this is a magazine, therefore of no interest.

Thanks, but there are plenty of people with bigger and better Warren collections than me. I mostly collect Frazetta covers, for a couple of reasons, first off I don't have the space for 400 or so cgc mag slabs. Secondly I have been a Frazetta fan for years, long before this, my second round of collecting. My first set of Warrens were sold in the 70's, I had full sets of Creepy, Eerie and Vampirella back in the 70's, and it was just too much to keep up with, that is why this time around I decided to just collect the ones I really wanted the most. In my opinion, the Frazetta covers were the best of the series, there are a few that come close, but none of the others interest me as much as his. I do like the cover for Creepy #1, Jack Davis was pressed into service for that cover since Frank was busy with paperback book covers at the time. Frazetta was the intended artist for that cover, but I think the Davis cover is pretty cool. Too bad he did not do more covers, but Jack did most of the Uncle Creepy and Cousin Eerie illustrations for the stories inside, so I guess that kept him busy enough.

Maybe you have seen this, but it's still my favorite copy of Creepy #1. Even though it is not super high grade, it's the only file copy I have ever seen for this issue. It took a year to get all 3 sigs.

I have a group of mags to be graded, but have had a case of lazy lately. Latest one I picked up was a Creepy #32

I have a few Vampi's, I only have the graded ones scanned, but I won't post all of those, just a few of my favorites.

A few new mags, I realize people spend soooo much time there.... All white pages, and almost all Frank Frazetta (1 Boris) it's almost like a theme or sumtin New high census, previous for this issue was a lone 9.4 New high census, previous for this issue was a lone 9.2 Currently tied with my other 9.4 Vampirella #1 for top spot, but has white pages. It was pre-graded at 9.6, which would have made this a full house, or flush, not sure which. (at the very least, 4 of a kind)

No problem, enjoy (thumbs u

Just got this in today, and yeah, I am quite proud of it. Ghost Rider #2 9.0, knocking the 8.5 Crippen copy out of the highest graded spot. Sadly it comes a week after the passing of my favorite artist

This came in a bit ago, highest graded, just squeeking past the Crippen 8.5 Ghost Rider #2, Frazetta cover

At any rate, that's a great first submission, I wish my first submission had come out that well