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That is the idea. It will be off to Sarasota for hopefully an upgrade and PQ bump.

Just got one in again. It will be here for a good time, but likely not a long time! It was essentially a loaner copy that I bought, sold to another boardie, and have recently repatriated.

Looks like it might be a good time to pick up a copy or two of SC #22 for the movie run up next year.............

Sweet books, and a fellow Canuck as well.

Hopefully he posts a response here later today. The response is that the owner was willing to sell the B&B 28 but was not willing to sell the Adventure 247. Knowing who the owner was, probably a wise move timing wise. (thumbs u

Hopefully he posts a response here later today.

The problem with SC #4, unfortunately/fortunately depending on where you sit, is that the prices are already starting from a high base. There is not as much room to run up with that book as there is with Flash #105 (judging by your name, you probably have that taken care of (thumbs u ). In addition, I think that the early SA Flash books have already had their big run up (Tim, please correct me if I am wrong here). And, we have already seen the sell off of HG Flash runs from some of the big DC SA collectors over the past couple of years so the prices might have a hard time going up a lot from here. There have also been more HG copies of early SA Flash issues added to the census as well. Mind you, the same thing has happened with a lot of other SA DC titles as well as the number of copies has increased but the number of deep pocket collectors does not appear to have kept pace.

I don't think it would have but you never know. For sure SC22 is more valuable thatn Flash 105 now and it still is ranked lower in the OSPG. It depends. That sale was last summer, right? If yes, that would have put it smack dab in the middle of the first SC #22 run up. Hard to say. In the same way that the laws of physics don`t work the same at the sub-atomic level, the laws of comic book pricing don`t always work the same at the six-figure level. When the Law of Multiples Extrapolation runs into the Law of Big Numbers, the Law of Big Numbers tends to win out, which helps to explain in part why the 9.6 Showcase 4 went for so cheap. I agree, but it seems like SC #4 is in a downswing while SC #22 is on the rise. I figured that the #4 would top $200K due to its significance, but it did not. Due to the GL movie, there may be more people willing to chase SC #22 rather than SC #4. In the case of #4, if it were to come to market again now (we know that it likely will not resurface for a while), I think it would have a hard time reaching the price Mark paid for it last year. Maybe a Flash movie would change that, but right now all of the momentum is on the side of SC #22. If that were to happen, it would be the equivalent of the time Detective 27 surpassed Action 1 for one brief shining moment in the late 1980s, thanks to the unexpected mega-success of the first Batman movie. I have no doubt that people in the long run would come to their senses and put Showcase 4 back up where it belongs. Also, I think the 9.6 Showcase 4 sale was an aberration, so I wouldn`t read too much into it. The 9.4 copy sold for around $150K, if I remember correctly, which was about where several seasoned collectors predicted. I think the correct price for the 9.6 would be somewhere around $200K or higher, and the winning bidder might very well have been willing to go higher, but for some reason no other competing bidder emerged. Also, SC 22`s price has been driven by speculation and the realization that it`s genuinely hard to find in any kind of decent grade--much harder than #4. If copies also existed in 9.2, 9.4 and 9.6 like #4, I don`t think the 9.0 copy would have gone for nearly as much. Would the 9.4 SC #4 hit that price now? I doubt it with the 9.6 out there. I would say that the price paid for the 9.6 was more a sign of the current interest level in the book rather than an aberration. The Flash is not a truly top tier DC property any longer. I look at it as the DC equivalent of FF #1 for Marvel. Start of the DC superhero SA, considered the first SA key by fanboys in the 60s and 70s (silly boomers ), but now the Flash and FF are much less important/popular characters. However, FF #1 benefits from being the 1st SA Marvel which means a much larger fan base considers it important relative to SC #4 so its high end prices likely have more staying power.

What was he thinking?

I don't think it would have but you never know. For sure SC22 is more valuable thatn Flash 105 now and it still is ranked lower in the OSPG. It depends. That sale was last summer, right? If yes, that would have put it smack dab in the middle of the first SC #22 run up. Hard to say. In the same way that the laws of physics don`t work the same at the sub-atomic level, the laws of comic book pricing don`t always work the same at the six-figure level. When the Law of Multiples Extrapolation runs into the Law of Big Numbers, the Law of Big Numbers tends to win out, which helps to explain in part why the 9.6 Showcase 4 went for so cheap. I agree, but it seems like SC #4 is in a downswing while SC #22 is on the rise. I figured that the #4 would top $200K due to its significance, but it did not. Due to the GL movie, there may be more people willing to chase SC #22 rather than SC #4. In the case of #4, if it were to come to market again now (we know that it likely will not resurface for a while), I think it would have a hard time reaching the price Mark paid for it last year. Maybe a Flash movie would change that, but right now all of the momentum is on the side of SC #22.

I don't think it would have but you never know. For sure SC22 is more valuable thatn Flash 105 now and it still is ranked lower in the OSPG. It depends. That sale was last summer, right? If yes, that would have put it smack dab in the middle of the first SC #22 run up.

What was the OO thinking? Flash in the pan vs. the hugely popular GL in 1959.

If there was a 9.6 SC #22 in the Newsboy run it would have been interesting to see if it would have fetched a higher price than the relatively common in uber high grade SC #4.

Until the 9.6 owner sells his copy to me, the answer is "No!" I must have missed it. When did the Adventure 247 9.6 showed up? I thought you had the highest graded copy. I wish. The 9.6 copy has been there almost since the first census. Now I REALLY would trade Mom's banana pudding for that 9.6, if it were a true SA key like Showcase #22 or B&B #28 !!!

The 9.4 Flash 105 ain`t real. Used to sit in a 9.2 slab. We know it got cleaned, and can only conjecture as to what else happened to it during its journey from a 9.2 slab to a 9.4 slab. The real anomaly is Showcase 4. If you`d think that any book would be really tough in grade, it would be Showcase 4. And yet there is not only a 9.2, but also a 9.4 and a 9.6, and as far as I can tell all are legitimate grades. Maybe the cover color scheme hurts SC #22? That, and the fact that it was an underappreciated book for soooooo long.

Great perception. Okay, some fun facts. Let's see which top SA DC is more scarce in CGC universal 7.0+ Brave and the Bold 28 (41 copies of 348) 11.78% Flash 105 (26 copies of 217) 11.98% Green Lantern 1 (70 copies of 389) 17.99% Justice League 1 (54 copies of 417) 12.94% Showcase 4 (19 copies of 204) 9.31% Showcase 22 (22 copies of 327) 6.72% So, GL 1 is most common. BB28, F105,JL1 is uncommon. Showcase 4 and 22 is quite scarce in 7.0+. This data confirms SC22 in 9.2 could be a long shot. Your post made me curious how the other major early key, Adventure 247, stacked up. What`s surprising is how under-submitted Adventure 247 is compared to these books. Only 145 copies in total, well below the 2nd lowest, Flash 105. However, of those, 23 are 7.0 or higher, representing the 2nd highest percentage at 15.86% behind GL 1, although perhaps it`s a bit deceptive because 12 of those are right at 7.0. Is Adventure #247 still considered a DC SA key?

GL is part of it, but I think it is just the "catch up" phase that SA DC keys need to go through now in relation to the SA Marvel keys. Besides, as we are starting to see, some of these more "common" DC keys are still not as readily available in 7.0+ as they are perceived to be.

I don't know. I think that books like GL #1, JLA #1 and Flash #105 in 6.0+ are due for a nice run up sooner than later. All three #1s pre-date the start of th ine Marvel SA and I expect to see a run up in them after B&B #28 takes off in a larger way.

I will probably be somewhat satisfied when I have 75-80% of 1-89 slabbed. I guess 33% isn't enough for me. Looking at some of the recent prices, you should be able to fill in some of the early issues in nice shape over the slow 4th quarter.

Congrats, Brian. That is a very nice copy.

I know where there is a 6.0 with WPs. Where is it listed?

When I start collecting again I am going to focus on GA books. The 6.0 SC #22 would have been nice to add at that price for a potential flip closer to the movie.

Yup. Rick is working his magic on another book now.

Damnit! I was waiting in line to register the little guy for hockey and missed out on a decent SC #22 deal with the 6.0 only going for $4060. I should have put in a place holder bid at $4500 like I was thinking of doing, but I doubted that would be enough. The 4.5 went for more than I thought it would (too much creasing for my taste), but the 3.5 went for a decent price. I guess the corner tear/chip did it in?

Unfortunately. Although, I know of one boardie whose max was higher than I was hoping I could snag it at until the big run up with an hour or less left.