Snake Eyes

and I re-raise you :popcorn: :popcorn: call... :popcorn: :popcorn: ALL IN :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: damn you being a bully with your big stack of popcorn...I fold...

and I re-raise you :popcorn: :popcorn: call... :popcorn: :popcorn:

Not that he needs a reference from me, but KUDOS to Foolkiller (Brian). Silver Surfer #3 arrived safe and sound. Never easy snagging a book from him, but always well worth the effort when you get a in on time (thumbs u Thanks again! SE

CGC shouldn't care one way or the other. The potential for fraud with PayPal personal is exactly the same as it is with check or money order. True, but I imagine CGC might have something to say if the sellers monkeyed with those forms of payment too. No one is dictating how you pay by check or money order if they accept the instrument. Further, no terms of use of these instruments by the post office/banks are being violated as near as I can tell. SE

Still don't see the point of explicitly banning PayPal personal payments. It's not to ensure credit card chargebacks since there's no requirement for sellers to allow them in the first place. Changed gears on your argument a bit there...only commenting that there is a protective element to using your credit card to pay via paypal. As for explicitly banning payments, I do not think this is what the board has done (unless I missed something). Instead, it seems to me they have banned it as a requirement and banned the use of advertising it in a commercial/sales thread. Both moves make some sense to me...as mentioned in the discussion a few weeks/couple weeks ago I skipped threads that demanded personal payment (found it mildly insulting and put me off on the sellers that did...seemed to be a number of boardies who felt similarly and took business to other threads). That is just a personal reason though...without speaking to them (and therefore talking out my butt ) I assume CGC ended the public and required use of it due to the legal reasons noted above. They were putting themselves at legal risk (debatable if they would have been nailed, but risk was present nonetheless) for absolutely no gain on their end. Seems a no-brainer to me :shrug: Also, as moderators that do not intervene is specific sales a blanket ban like they issued would certainly make more sense and save them headaches down the road (complaints and exceptions and case by case basis issues...all areas they have no desire to delve into in my estimation). SE

How? PayPal affords no protection to off-ebay purchases other than the lame complaint system, which at worst would only end up with the same penalty that asking people to pay with the personal option would--suspension of the seller's PayPal account. Scam artists have the same capacity to scam whether they offer any flavor of PayPal payment or not. This is not entirely true. While paypal itself offers no protection here, if you operate your account off of a credit card only you retain the protection offered by the card. Therefore, while you as an individual may not run a business and accept credit cards, by accepting my paypal payment you can. This allows me to initiate fraud and/or chargeback processes if some sort of scam or misrepresentation is being run. SE

Kudos right back...pleasure doing business with you...will be reading for awhile given the stack of comics in the last purchase

And thanks/kudos to you as well. Books better than advertised, fast shipping, friendly seller...what more can a guy ask for? (a freebie you say ) Yep that was there too!!! Can't wait for the next thread! (thumbs u

That was worth more than 2 cents. Excellent post. Thank you sir! Got going on the post and before I knew it there were a few paragraphs (when I initially intended a few sentences).

That does not bother me at all. (thumbs u You are offerring me a choice instead of attempting to force it upon me as a fee for buying from you. I think I look at it more as someone intruding upon my decisions to INSIST/DEMAND that form of payment. Here you make your preferences clear and allow the buyer to make their own decisions

My two cents for what it is worth (as a frequent buyer). Many folks do use this site as an adjunct to their business, so many deals are not two friends working out a nice trade. Instead, two fellow collectors/colleagues doing business. Now some are friendly, so I admit there are both types... When you list an item for sale, you are choosing to do so in the hopes of obtaining funds. I, in turn, am shopping as I browse through the sell threads. Let me tell you, if I was going back and forth from stores at the mall...I certainly would not shop at the one insists I pay their fees...that is the cost of them choosing to do business with the credit cards companies (or paypal in this case). If they insisted on check or money order only, that would be fine with me as they are not trying to pass on their cost of business. Frankly, I almost always close the thread when I see this insisted upon (or am told a 3% surcharge will be added). This is a cost free platform for listing...just will not pay that fee for you. That being said, when someone cuts me a deal or I have dealt with someone awhile and consider them a friend I will add 3% to the total and pay via the purchase option (I know for sure I did this with my last three transactions). That is a choice that I want to have the ability to make however. Insisting upon my doing this does not build a trusting relationship in my opinion. So the long and the short of it is you are losing a potential sale to me (and as I read some of the complaints on the board to others as well). If the 3% is a critical amount to receive build it into your initial price...then I do not feel insulted (albeit mildly don't want to be overdramatic here )and you are still asking for the price needed. Or better yet...sell it at the original price, build a relationship with someone, and then discuss personal payments. Again, just my two cents... SE

It was a pleasure...thanks again for your business (thumbs u

And a pleasure to work with the Fat Comic Mafia as well (despite threats of broken kneecaps ) Well packaged, a freebie thrown in, and an excellent salesman! Look forward to your next sales thread

Point taken. Certainly helps me understand where you are coming from a bit better. I suppose we all come on for various reasons, and that can certainly create disagreement. Appreciate the response JC, have a good day (thumbs u SE

The same here, and lately with all these forum drives, social conscience and never-ending charity auctions, it seems that the CGC Forums needs a new logo: And is that a bad thing? To be honest such events are really what ramped up my interest in this board (and hope that over time I can become part of such a community that shares something beside Spiderman movie polls and threads to just buy and sell). Comics are a common interest and starting point for relationships on here. Some may progress beyond that, some may not. However, I have really enjoyed getting to know several folks on a personal level (which includes causes they may be involved in or unfortunately tragedies that may have occurred). My understanding is participation is always voluntary and you can offer financial or moral support as you see fit. I certainly have not had a single instance where someone tried to obligate me to any of these events/causes. Just my two cents, SE

All I can say is WOW :o :o Incredibly well-written Zonker. Certainly makes me want to delve into some research and my early 70's books to see what I can find. As an aside, I think this is an excellent way to approach a discussion about an age's starting point (if it can be pinned down at all). Helps eliminate the biases and my book suggestion is better than your book suggestion (or Jeebus help me the marvel zombies vs. the DC-ites)

oops..read the thread before posting...Count pretty much had my thought earlier Have a good night all

My understanding is the auctions are A-OK on a trial basis. Have not seen a book I want to try a bid on yet, but I for one am glad to see us try something new...no harm no foul right? So far the Wiz has the (thumbs u from me...and happy Halloween to all

Belated, but huge Kudos to Shortstack...sent a small pile of reading material out of the goodness of his heart (wanted to share the magic of Chew). It was much appreciated and may karma pay you back with free comics in your mailbox soon (worship) (worship)

Right back at you times two...definately a pleasure my friend (thumbs u

Hey there Jason...how's life been treating you?

That listing caught my eye earlier today. I like the idea of trying something new to add to the marketplace...several thoughts on this (in no order of importance) 1. Nice to see somebody try to add something new... 2. I would prefer not to give my email with my bid and keep all board transactions to my pm box here to keep everything in one place and my email to my email account... (not a deal breaker but this is a minor inconvenience for me). 3. To be in the spirit of what I read the marketplace rules to be, each listing should have a buy it now...some price with which the seller will end the auction and the boardie wins the book (this seems to be the case in the listing linked above). 4. Similar to number three, only board members would be allowed to bid (the exclusive offering rule). I believe this again is the case here as he mentioned the auction was developed specifically for the marketplace threads. Overall, I would probably give placing a bid it a try if it winds up being permissable from the mods point of view...

Amazing Spiderman kudos... Thanks go out to DiceX for a gorgeous ASM #300...great packaging and insanely fast shipping And double kudos to Filter81 for two books...ASMs 43 and 59...and when this man offers a freebie he means business...lovin' the Thor slab... Thanks again guys, it was much appreciated!!! S.E.

Kudos to Dave at Comicsarefun! Had a great 4th of July thread and got the books today. Great seller and thanks for the books! S.E.

Many thanks and huge kudos to Skypinkblu on the wonderful books that arrived today. On top of great prices and a friendly seller, she tossed in a couple freebies to help with a run I am working on. Thanks so much!!!! :applause: