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Sorry to disrupt the discussion – just a last question about the modern Cap books: Thanks both – I don’t like trade papaerbacks, even if I have just to read the books I always try to track down the originals: which are the Brubaker Caps which have gained more popularity as "collectibles" and should be on the lookout for, not to spend excessively?

My first and only purchase from samco happened early as I got back into collecting in 2011. It was a tracked shipment, but the package did not arrive – actually this is more my fault than his as he said he would have done an inquiry to the USPS if it did not arrive, but I waited a lot to tell him the first time, and then the thing slipped my mind as I had many things going on, so I suppose he did not inquire but I did not insist either because of my own bad timing.

BTW, how’s the current series? I am not a big fan of Remender, but I love Sam Wilson and the art of Stuart Immonen (and the covers by Carlos Pacheco).

Thanks to both! (thumbs u I understand it’s a question going against the reason for this thread, but is there a way to get the issues which have "heatened up" for cheap?

Which one? It seems there has been a number of ever-restarting series written by Brubaker… BTW, before that, I have just read the story arc "Powerless" (drawn by Alan Davis) and was not much convinced, although I found Brubaker a lot better than the average choice of writers of the Quesada/Bendis management.

Darryl Hannah… Splash (and the launch of the Touchstone label) has been one of the worst things Disney have done… Just a "stream of consciousness", sorry…

The Winter Soldier stuff brought Bucky back in a pretty cool way. We cannot say that for most characters who return from the grave. I totally agree with that. Bucky's return had to be done in a flawless way, not many writers could've pulled it off. I think more writers could if editors would leave them alone. Maybe, but Brubaker is a special kind of talent that can put out quality work even if he has editors hovering over. Nothing against Brubaker - I'm a huge fan of his. My comment wasn't intended as a slight against him, but more as a knock against Big Two editorial control and interference. You're right, the creativity does get stifled often in those situations. The Big Two have decades-old brands to protect, so I understand why the editors are strict when it comes to creative license. I just don't think they do their jobs well...most of the time. You and I are in agreement on this my friend - I understand why they're there, I understand the need to protect and steer the IP, but at the same time Sorry for the long quote, but since I thought bringing back Bucky after 70 years was just a very bad idea, all considered, and since I am not particularly convinced by Brubaker as a Marvel writer, which Cap modern issues would you recommend to start with if one has to gain a balanced opinion? I am not particularly tied to a specific Captain America period, I love the character but I also think it’s one of the most difficult to write, together with the Fantastic Four (which I love).

But you’re still in Canada, right? Best luck with the ongoing learning curve… (thumbs u

It’s quite white in hand, so I am happy. I just discovered in Italy it was published in a Daredevil issue (sorry for the bad picture quality):

As with most ages, there is no unanimous definition of the official "end" of the Silver age, which someone extend of a few years, but I do agree that for the FF it was about over when Kirby left… the Buscema ones "feel" like Bronze, as much as the early Sub-Mariners, Iron Man, etc. I’ll fix the post to have them all in a row…

You mean by age? I consider this thread an "all around" FF lovers thread, even if collecting is focused in the Silver age as it’s in this section, more than a simple "SA collecting" thread. It is still quite "borderline" to be a BA book anyway, if we go by ages, as it’s from 1971.

Some recent arrivals (purchased some time ago), and thus some holes filled…

Omigosh! – I would SO love to have it…

They annoyed me with this Cosmic Cube increasing banalizations. When I read things like: «the Shaper of Worlds was in fact a cosmic cube» my bicycle chain drops… Not that Thomas had been completely immune: why he had to show the "principle entities" in Dr. Strange in the 1990s is beyond me.

That is retroactive continuity of the Quesada kind… I just accept what Roy Thomas approved/approves…

And as related to what I wrote: we owe a lot of the awesomeness to Thomas, without any doubt! (thumbs u

Love it, I recently upgraded mine as well, thanks to crassus – thanks Robert!

Stan Lee created the Destroyer, as a youngster he wrote a good deal of Timely stories, anyway.

These are super-sweet, entalmighty – I should get closer to yours now that I will receive in short my upgrade to #48. I have been filling up holes in my modern issues collection recently, and when I placed my last order I noticed this cover – which I already knew in its original version – I don’t care about Deadpool, and usually don’t care about variants but this was so silly that I purchased it!

We can safely say that a good number of Golden age most suggestive ideas were influence on what Stan, Jack and the other writer/artists did in the most seminal period of the Silver Age. Some characters, like the Destroyer, were directly reintroduced when Thomas had that great idea that is the Invaders – or as he did when he wrote the Crusader / Marvel Boy story in the Fantastic Four. Some others, like the Golden age Vision show a lineage, which as Kav pointed out is noticeable also in the setup of the scene (I don’t know the original Golden age Vision powers).

@Finhead: Sweet! Great price on the #36 – nice #35 too! I am still missing the #21 – must fix that after Easter! I just love the La Prensa editions, if they were less expensive (as they are mostly a curiosity to me) I’d have loved to have the early issues… I just received a batch of FFs purchased time ago… I have to check which ones are better. Among the ones I was missing there's the #110 which is definitely nice, and the #73. As soon as I have them scanned I will post them.

I expressed myself badly. I was referring to the 1990s Valiant number of series: I see they licensed the characters from the Gold Key original books, and the recent Valiant books don’t make much sense to me, as they are something basically different, a "version", so to speak, but not the same thing Shooter did by expanding existing characters' worlds and merging them. So I just meant that as a Gold Key or Valiant lover I would care about these books regardless of the new series. I might enjoy these reinterpretations, but they would not be along the same lines of the originals and the development introduced by Shooter.

The new Livewire is an African-American woman named Amanda McKee, who has been in control of the X-O Manowar armor. In the 1990s, Livewire is a Caucasian woman named Amanda McKee, and she first appeared in Harbinger #15 (1993). There was ALSO an African-American woman who was in control of the X-O Manowar armor in the 1990s Valiant... Randy Cartier. It's pretty clear that the new Livewire is a blend of the first Livewire and Randy Cartier. Randy Cartier first appeared in X-O Manowar #12 (1993)... earlier than Harbinger #15 (1993). So... the question is... would collectors prefer the two characters' first appearances from the 1990s or would they prefer the first appearance of the new "blended" Livewire character herself... Harbinger #3 (2012)? I cannot even understand why a publisher would want to "restart" a series of characters of which some of the most important are missing (due to the fact they were licensed), so I can’t see how this could or should affect collecting. :shrug: Wouldn’t have been better if they invented new characters? As much as one loves the Valiant characters, I can’t see why you should "recycle" characters and rewrite them. Strictly speaking, that’s what DC has been doing for some time, and I can’t get into this mentality as well. I have a limited familiarity with DC characters, and these editorial choices makes me very little interested in reading them, unless one just stops with "Crisis" or the like. I wonder which impact the Secret Wars Marvel is preparing on my collecting choice: surely if they go the same way of DC it will be a pretty much sealed thing for me. Said this, I liked Defiant better than Valiant (especially Dark Dominion), but Shooter managed to mess up everything with his fixation to "build universes" overnight, a thing I really don’t like. And Broadway… well, I think I have read very little of all the books I purchased. I have sold (almost gifted) my Valiants but the Broadways are still there.

Those characters belong to Dreamworks, and they've been licensed to Dark Horse and Dynamite in the past 5 years. They aren't Valiant characters now... they were licensed to Valiant in the 1990s. Gold Key Dr. Solar #1 and Gold Key Magnus #1 are as old as Amazing Spider-man #1, so they have a lot of potential --- but I don't think their potential is closely tied to Valiant popularity anymore. That is the main reason for which, in the end, the Marvel age remains unique (except for licensed characters like ROM or the Micronauts which produced an odd inconsistency – maybe even the Human Fly? What was that one based on?).

I am still missing the Doctor Strange #179, and I can never convince myself to buy it, as it contains a reprint (and I don’t like the cover). I will end up getting a lowgrade copy I guess… The slabs look really sweet, I especially like the ASM.