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Feel like I’m on Reddit. I’m gonna say ESH. I can see how your phrasing in the highlighted below could be construed as him being a consolation prize… but his reaction seems a bit extreme. A lot of artists are delicate creatures. Doesn’t seem like you’d get what you wanted from the artist at this point, so I’d just move on from that one.
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On 5/26/2023 at 12:31 PM, Messier3499 said:
They think we are stupid
Maybe he got it in a trade…
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Deathmate DPS “sold” in January from Nostalgic Investments. Think the price was 2Kish?
https://www.nostalgicinvestments.com/comic-art/deathmate-red-p1314-double-page-spread
Now available for 3500 through Panel Page Art.
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On 5/21/2023 at 8:07 AM, cloud cloddie said:Yeah, Nick and Los bros had sold 1 piece between the 3 of them when I looked this morning.
And Will, Panel page, And Nostalgic investments… nothing sold from what I see. Pretty telling that 6 dealers have 1 piece sold between the lot of them. Seems like buyers are pretty tired of their s***.
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On 5/21/2023 at 5:49 AM, Michael Browning said:
I also believe that too many sellers went for the big cash grabs, rather than selling off some of their cheaper art, and they put people off with prices that were multiples of what the art sold for at auction recently. Sellers want to sell one piece that gives them a profit large enough to buy a car, rather than selling off a bunch of $250-$500 pages. Many of those sellers didn't sell much at all.
Yeah, Nick and Los bros had sold 1 piece between the 3 of them when I looked this morning.
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My thoughts are the same as most CAFlive events… lots of deja vu, aspirational pricing, lots of recent recycling. Bought two pages first thing that I hadn’t seen up before. Was happy to get them because it seemed like the server was overloaded at open and wasn’t sure my requests would go through. Just like at normal cons, I avoid the dealers / flippers.
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I got in fine from Cali. I should’ve logged in earlier to get some more deals.
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I’ve only sold one piece to someone who gave me a story about how much it meant to them. It was a random, inexpensive piece that I would’ve been surprised for someone to lie about. Made me a good offer, and have never seen it again. So I’m just assuming he’s enjoying looking at it on his wall now.
Every other time I’ve gotten lowball offers, so it’s been easy to crush dreams.- Legion of Goom, grapeape, szucchini and 1 other
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On 5/12/2023 at 11:43 AM, Robot Man said:
Is it possible, if one wanted to wait in a long line, to just walk up to a creator like Jim Lee and get just one book autographed at no charge? Or is it all just big money for a witness, and a special label slab?
Is he even going to be at a table? He’s just there Saturday, and I’m pretty sure it’s just for his panel and anybody who buys one of the ‘experience’ packages. Don’t think he’ll be on the floor.
https://www.phoenixfanfusion.com/comicbook/jim-leeAnd I heard the packages at Baltimore last year were messy, so even that’s not a guarantee.
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On 5/10/2023 at 12:56 PM, JC25427N said:
I might be remembering wrong and apologies if I am, but my recollection was that many people defended that listing during the last CAF live stating that either A) it was clearly satire, or B) If it's not satire, then a person stating "This is how much it would take for me to let go of this piece of art" is perfectly legitimate.
Not sure what listing you’re referring to, since he had A LOT of marked up listings in the last CAFlive.
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On 5/10/2023 at 9:40 AM, Xatari said:No accusation made. Shared my personal experience and hope for a different one this time.
On 5/10/2023 at 9:42 AM, JC25427N said:Whatever word you think is more appropriate then, regardless, the connotations you gave off that Nick might just be hype mongering without any intent of selling pages feels unwarranted
My personal experience is the same. Watched a show a few months back for a piece that showed up at the end with an aspirational price. Didn’t sell, and days later it’s in his CAF gallery with a glowing ‘so happy I get to keep it’. 😒
Couple that with previous CAF posts about ‘grails’ that ended up on the last CAFlive at crazy prices, I don’t think it’s out of the realm of reason to imply what Xatari did, intentionally or not.
He’s welcome to do whatever he wants with art he owns. As we’re welcome to call out practices we’re clearly observing.
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On 4/29/2023 at 2:55 PM, Michael Browning said:Nah, Rich people look at $1000 like I look at my payday. They don't just throw money away with abandon. It's how they stay rich. ;)
Believe me, if something happens and you NEED to sell, you are NOT going to want to sell below what you have in it.
Not being overly concerned with getting a huge (or any) ROI is a far cry from throwing money away, especially if you’ll have no NEED to sell.
It’s whatever. I just don’t agree with the idea that everyone is going into every purchase looking at investment.- Twanj, Sean I, Hockeyflow33 and 2 others
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On 4/29/2023 at 1:39 PM, Michael Browning said:If anyone says they buy art and don’t look at it as an investment or say they don’t care if they get their money back when they resell it, they’re lying. Original art costs too much cash to not consider it an investment.
1000 to you may not be 1000 to someone else. I’d imagine the numbers are looked at differently when it’s 50% of your discretionary budget vs .1%.
On 4/29/2023 at 1:56 PM, Sean- said:There’s also legions of commission focused collectors who are likely aware they would see a negative return as well in the short and medium terms.
Yup. I’m for sure at least mindful of ROI when buying published art. But not on commissions. I’m positive I’d lose money on 99% of the commissions I have, and I’m okay with that.
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On 4/22/2023 at 11:24 AM, Bill C said:
The HA a few days ago had some results that seem a bit low, maybe?
Cap 350 page 1 splash (featuring the Skull as Steve showing off his thighs) went for only $900- with Dwyer Cap panel page prices rocketing up, I'm surprised the splash to a key issue like this went lower than panel pages are going.
I bid on this one, but not very hard. Would’ve bid more if it was an actual red skull.
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I’m liking more stuff in the weeklies lately.
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On 3/17/2023 at 10:38 AM, grapeape said:
There is merit to what you say. I think some folks put the work in to upload the image, then they completely fail to give any info on how they got it or what it means to them. I can be persuaded to get caught up by another collector's enthusiasm..... and more likely to comment seriously or at all.
Yup. I don’t need as much on a published piece - often they can speak for themselves. But I’m always surprised when nothing is written about a commission. There had to be a reason to get it done, and I’d be curious of it.
And yeah, there’s been many a wordy description that gave me insight into either the piece or the collectors attachment to it that prompted me to comment.
How to Lose Commission Requests and Alienate People
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Generally I think artists like doing new things. You do get the opposite occasionally. I got up with a veteran artist about 6 months ago about a commission and he entertained the convo, but when I requested characters he had done an issue of back in the day, he wasn’t interested. I thanked him and moved on, but he does the same 4 or 5 characters over and over (expertly, but still) so I thought he might enjoy the change. Nope. Not to be, and I’m ok with that.