Bart Allen

On 8/12/2022 at 6:17 PM, marvelmaniac said:

Not knowing for sure I would have to grade the color breaking scratches as a defect, a few spine ticks that barely break color, slightly blunted corners, corner ding/creases at lower right corner of rear cover.

Overall the book is very nice, colors are bright, book lies flat, no staining/foxing, however, the scratches IMO lower the grade by a good amount, as the book sits right now, IMO...

7.0 FINE/VERY FINE (FN/VF):  Back to Top
An above-average copy that shows minor wear but is still relatively flat and clean with outstanding eye appeal. A small accumulation of minor bindery/printing defects is allowed. Minor cover wear beginning to show, possibly including minor creases. Corners may be blunted. Inks are generally bright with a moderate reduction in reflectivity. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present. Minor foxing. The slightest spine roll may be present, as well as a possible moderate color break. Staples may show some discoloration. Slight staple tears and a small accumulation of light stress lines may be present. Slight rust migration. Paper is cream to tan. Centerfold is mostly secure. Minor interior tears at the margin may be present.

On 8/12/2022 at 11:15 PM, grendelbo said:

7.5/8.0 mainly because of minor creasing and that impacted bottom corner of the front cover. I can see this pressing to an 8.5 or so.

Thanks for posting.

On 8/13/2022 at 2:38 PM, 1950's war comics said:

it's so hard to grade black covers , hopefully this one is a VF or better !!

Thanks so much 

I was wondering what grade do you think this is? 0.5 or a 1? Bearing in mind the tape and the lack of a back cover 

I totally do wanna get this encapsulated regardless though due to it being the fourth appearance of Young Marvelman and the fact I've never seen this comic before -- I hasten to add I believe the only image of this issue (outside Marvel's reconstruction) was on Grand Comics Database and it's this exact copy~ The copy is separated into three sections; the front cover and the first two pages (4 sides); the large selection of the stories; and the last page of a story and the 'Do You Know These Birds of the World' advert (2 sides)~

All comments are welcomed! Thanks!

Posting another UK Variant, and I was wondering what grade do you think this is? Would this benefit from a clean and a press?

I've noticed on the right-hand side of the front cover that there is several scratches - something I noticed on some of the regular versions that I bought from the U.S. months ago - so I'm unsure whether those are printing defects ~

All comments are welcomed! Thanks!

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Bought this recently -- only for Young Marvelman #28 (which I've never seen before) and of course the prospect of getting another copy of Young Marvelman #370 -- also #72 for obvious reasons due to Nastyman ~

On 8/3/2022 at 12:15 AM, jdandns said:

Wow, neat stuff!

Are the pogs blank-backed? 

How about the larger cards? Anything on the reverse side of those?

Hey ^_^

The pogs are blank-backed

The postcards just have some general information about the origin of the images ~

The quartet has to be summoned once more: @marvelmaniac; @scburdet; @Yorick; and @The Lions Den 

On 8/8/2022 at 3:34 PM, scburdet said:

Yeah, the rust migration is an issue and the wrinkle needs pressing provided it doesn't damage an old book like this. Any sort of significant staining like rust migration reduces the ceiling to ~5.5

Yeah  Thanks a lot <3

On 8/8/2022 at 5:23 PM, Yorick said:

Most of my Millers have staple rust.  If you don't take them out, it only gets worse.  I have a coverless True Tales of Love 7 (Miller below) with terrible staple rust (and some other problems) which I started working on.  The rusty staples will start bonding to the paper and becomes difficult to remove without tearing the paper.  These saddle-stitched Millers are much easier to remove the staples than the square-bounds.  I'll need to dissolve the bindery glue of the cover wrap before I can even get to the staples (on a square-bound).

I don't believe there is currently a market ($$$) for CGC Millers.  All of mine are raw and I prefer them this way.  My suggestion is to get the staples out and then just bag and board it.

Thanks a lot for that - much appreciated! To be honest I'll probably clean and press them before sending it to be encapsulated ~ 

On 8/8/2022 at 5:26 PM, Yorick said:

PS.  You could remove the slight paper bends with a press, but the rusty staple problem prevents the higher grades you would want from spending money on the pressing.  It all depends what your collecting interests are.  Is the book going up for sale?  Personal collection?

To be honest it's for my personal collection as very few of those books are in CGC ~

On 8/8/2022 at 8:26 PM, The Lions Den said:

Well, I've seen worse, but you do have a pretty serious problem. How you proceed depends on a variety of factors, but I'd be thinking about contacting someone who does this kind of work as soon as possible. If nothing else, you may be able to gain some valuable insight (such as what has already been posted in this thread).

Whatever you decide to do, good luck...  

Thanks a lot  I guess I'll just encapsulate it as it is after a clean and press ~

On 8/8/2022 at 10:47 AM, The Lions Den said:

Thanks.

I'd be interested in seeing photos of the interior, especially the centerfold...  .

Sure thing :3

On 8/7/2022 at 2:26 AM, grendelbo said:

4.0 as is.

Press will help but the staple rust and migration is a significant defect. I think you'll max out at a 5.0/5.5 after a press.

Thanks for posting.

 

 

Thanks so much

I have to summon @marvelmaniac; @scburdet; @Yorick; and @The Lions Den to this thread :O

I was wondering what grade do you think this is? Would this benefit from a clean and a press? More so a press?

All comments are welcomed! Thanks!

On 8/6/2022 at 5:33 PM, The Lions Den said:

To be perfectly honest, I'd be a bit nervous about sending this book in for grading. If you do, make sure you pack it extremely well and put a FRAGILE sticker on the package and on the bag the comic is in. Even then, you're taking a chance on making that spine split even more pronounced than it already is. Whatever you do, good luck and thanks for posting it!    

And at this point, my best guess is that it may land somewhere in the 3.0 - 3.5 range...  

On 8/7/2022 at 4:21 AM, Yorick said:

Max grade with that split is 3.0.  But it really is a lovely copy.  Enjoy it the way it is.

Thanks so much, guys 

On 8/2/2022 at 3:37 PM, CMatthews said:

Hello!

Thank you for reaching out and for the suggestions. The Population Report information is generated from what was included about the book by our Graders and cannot be updated at this time. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. 

I understand, but when can it be updated? If I were to send this book in for grading - coupled with scans, documents and general proof of addition - would that suffice? ~

I thought I'd request a census update for Marvelman #370 (UK Edition), which has incomplete information in the key and art comments section.

The current layout of Marvelman #370 (of August 6, 2022):

Issue Date: 2/63

Year: 1978

Year: 1963

Publisher: L. Miller & Co. Ltd.

Key Comments: Last issue

Art Comments:

My proposed (updated) layout of Marvelman #370:

Issue Date: 2/63

Year: 1963

Publisher: L. Miller & Co. Ltd.

Country: United Kingdom

Key Comments: Last issue. Last appearance of Marvelman. Flip and Flop, and Johnny Galaxia backup stories.

Art Comments: José Beá art.

Would such a change be possible? All of this information is featured in the book ~

I realise that the Population Report information is generated from what was included about the book by your Graders, but when can this be updated? Would it be a futile effort to include pages of suggestions (coupled with proof and references) to each book I would submit to CGC?

All comments are welcomed.

Marvelman #370 ~

The last issue which I've never seen for sale apart from one in 2021 and the CGC 6.5 copy (sold in 2020) that was in the U.S.A, of which I believe was @EwanUK's copy he sold several years ago (this is the image) ~ Out of all the Marvelman comics (including even Marvelman #26) this is the one I wanted the most, so I'm beyond elated 

I was wondering what grade do you think this is? Would this benefit from a clean and a press? Speaking of the staple rust and the multiple rust stain spine through the book ~

All comments are welcomed! Thanks!

On 8/5/2022 at 1:11 PM, scburdet said:

I didn't notice that was a spine split. That knocks you down quite a bit unfortunately.

On 8/5/2022 at 3:19 PM, marvelmaniac said:

Not that you have a choice but hopefully it is not graded on a Monday or Friday and the grader is having a good week.

I know :(

On 8/5/2022 at 7:42 PM, Yorick said:

Get us a picture from the spine side.  The back cover picture makes it look like something is happening with the center of the spine, and the interior splash photo makes it look like the whole top of the spine is split.

Nice Captain Marvel cover swipe.  That's a great lookin book.  NO PRESS. 

Thanks a lot

On 8/6/2022 at 5:57 AM, grendelbo said:

This is a hard one. It should be a 2.0 because of the spine split. CGC will give a book with a completely detached cover and spine split a 1.5 (best case scenario).

That book probably ought to be a 0.5 so CGC is showing some leniency to the defect.

This book would be an 8.0 IMO if not for the spine split. You have to take it's overall appearance in mind despite that very significant flaw.

Here's a book with a 1" spine split at the top and a 3.75" one at the bottom. So take note though of what issue it is. If there's ever to be a key bump....

Here's one with a 2" spine split at the bottom -

 

My guess is that your book would get a 3.5. 

It's only a guess though. I wonder what others might say.

@zzutak

@The Lions Den

Thanks for sharing.

Seriously thanks, @grendelbo, for that most detailed reply ~ Yeah that spine split ... damn it 

On 8/3/2022 at 8:48 PM, scburdet said:

The spine edge on the back cover looks a little rough. Is something going on there, or is that an illusion? I see some light to moderate creasing around the spine that might look better with pressing. There are people with actual experience pressing GA-era comics that I would defer to though. This books really looks great for being almost 70 years old. If there's a GA-bump, I could see this going 8.5±0.5, but my feel for what CGC feels are acceptable defects on these are vague, at best. If I was way off in either direction, I would not be surprised.

On 8/4/2022 at 5:21 PM, marvelmaniac said:

Staining/Rust Migration at the top staple, lower staple discolored, slight color rub/wrinkles at lower left corner/edge, slight color rub in the "E" and "V" of "MarvelMan", staining in the first "M".

The book overall is very nice, however, rusted staples/rust migration is not allowed in books above GD/VG 3.0, how much of a hit does an other wise near flawless book take?

IMO, overall...

8.0 VERY FINE (VF):  Back to Top
An excellent copy with outstanding eye appeal. A limited accumulation of minor bindery/printing defects is allowed. Cover is relatively flat with minimal surface wear beginning to show, possibly including some minute wear at corners. Inks are generally bright with moderate to high reflectivity. An unnoticeable 1/4" crease is acceptable if color is not broken. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present. Minor foxing. Spine is almost completely flat with a possible minor color break. Staples may show some discoloration. Very slight staple tears and a few almost insignificant stress lines may be present. Paper is cream to tan and supple. Centerfold is mostly secure. Minor interior tears at the margin may be present.

7.5 VERY FINE- (VF-):  Back to Top
Fits the criteria for Very Fine but with an additional defect or small accumulation of defects that detracts from the book's appearance by a perceptible amount.

On 8/4/2022 at 5:36 PM, marvelmaniac said:

2"-3" Spine Split at top, slight spine roll, slight edge/corner wear w/color rub, minor to moderate spine stress w/several color breaking spine ticks, discolored staples.

It is the spine split that is hurting this grade, a spine split that long is only allowed in GD 2.0/GD+ 2.5, again we are back to how much of a hit does a book that may have been in the FN/VF 7.0 range take, unfortunately none of us have access to CGC's grading standards and there is no list of how much a certain defect drops a books grade on an otherwise higher grade copy, there are lots of gray areas in grading and lots of different interpretations of some grading terms.

IMO...

5.5 FINE- (FN-):  Back to Top
Fits the criteria for Fine but with an additional defect or small accumulation of defects that detracts from the book's appearance by a perceptible amount.

5.0 VERY GOOD/FINE (VG/FN):  Back to Top
An above-average but well used comic book. An accumulation of bindery/printing defects is allowed. Minor to moderate cover wear apparent, with minor to moderate creases and/or dimples. Inks have moderate to low reflectivity. Blunted corners are increasingly common, as is minor to moderate staining, discoloration, and/or foxing. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present. A minor to moderate spine roll is allowed. A spine split of up to 1/2" may be present. Staples may show minor discoloration. Minor staple tears and minor stress lines may also be present, as well as minor rust migration. Paper is tan to brown with no signs of brittleness. Centerfold may be loose. Minor interior tears may also be present.

Thanks so much -- much appreciated! Hopefully CGC will show me mercy 

I was wondering what grade do you think this is? Would this benefit from a clean and a press?

All comments are welcomed! Thanks!

I was wondering what grade do you think this is? Would this benefit from a clean and a press?

All comments are welcomed! Thanks!

I thought I'd request a census update for Starlord #1 (UK Edition), which has incomplete information in the key and art comments section.

The current layout of Starlord #1 (of August 2, 2022):

Issue Date: 5/78

Year: 1978

Publisher: IPC Magazines Ltd.

Country: United Kingdom

Key Comments: Distributed with one of six variant, giveaway badges attached to cover.

Art Comments: Ramon Sola cover, R.E. Wright story, Horacio Lalia art

My proposed (updated) layout of Starlord #1:

Issue Date: 5/78

Year: 1978

Publisher: IPC Magazines Ltd.

Country: United Kingdom

Key Comments: 1st appearance of Johnny Alpha, Wulf Sternhammer, Hammerstein, Ro-Jaws and Mek-Quake. Distributed with one of six variant, giveaway badges attached to cover.

Art Comments: Pat Mills, Chris Lowder, Kelvin Gosnell and John Wagner stories;

Horacio Lalia, Ian Kennedy, Ian Gibson, Carlos Ezquerra and Carlos Pino art;

Ramon Sola cover.

Would such a change be possible?

All comments are welcomed.

I was wondering whether and clean and/or press could improve the grade?