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On 1/7/2022 at 12:53 AM, @therealsilvermane said:
Last Jedi was a movie. And it didn't really divide Star Wars fans that much.
Captain Marvel had no expectations for fans as she was a new character. The only expectation was that she would be the saviour of Endgame and she really wasn't. She contributed for sure, but she didn't ultimately save the day. Stark did that.
MCU fans for the most part put Captain Marvel as a movie in the middle of the pack. Some like me have it at the top. Some have it at the bottom. The only reason the character is seen as divisive is because of the backlash against her by a horde of toxic male fans opposed to a woman taking over the MCU. To their credit, they were right to be afraid, because Captain Marvel will be taking over. The story that Marvel is setting up (beyond the magic stuff and the street level Disney+ stuff) will see to that.
Captain Marvel and Last Jedi are not comparable.
Are you crazy? Last Jedi didn't divide the SW fandom? Whuh???
Your next part feels sleazy, the way you say Carol was a new character. New character on film, yes, but they generally retain some defining characteristics from their comics personalities and backstories. There were certainly some expectations, mostly be her existing comic fanbase.
Yep, they got us good. The End of Infinity War made it seem like Captain Marvel would be a big deal come Endgame, when really, she did bugger all. Well played Marvel, you made the solo movie hit the billion mark as a result, but it was a bit dirty.
I feel bad speaking for this 'most part' of the MCU. But I reckon they'd be placing it in the bottom quarter. And I'll let you enjoy your fanfic in peace. Don't forget to say hello to Chunky, your invisible monkey, when you're done. I heard you spanking him the other night.
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Just watched both episodes. Bit of a mixed bag for me. The episodes are decent enough, I just didn't want a show that filled in the gaps about his time with the Sandpeople. I wanted Crime Lord Fett. Obviously it'll still happen, but we're already short on episodes as is. I'm sure it'll work out in the end, but for now it's left me a tad bored. I don't want feel-good Fett, I want badarse Fett.
Can someone please tell me, was the black Wookiee the same one that debuted in the second Marvel run, Black something (Chrysanthemum or something maybe, I can't remember his full name, but he was a black Wookiee bounty hunter).
And let's all cheer for those Gammoreans. Way to lose those kilos, boys! Looking good.
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On 1/6/2022 at 2:23 PM, Dr. Love said:
progressive math! it may not really equal 100%, but it feels so right to me!
You don't UNDERSTAND. Captain Marvel is SO popular she has a 110% audience share, don't you see?!?
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Yet I can't see see where any is a 1:1 match. At the point you're at, why not just go the full Hog and just trace it. To the casual observer it'll be deemed the same.
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(May need to say this one out loud).
A family was on holiday, and decided to go to a zoo. When they walked in, they saw there were NO animals on display except for a single dog. It was a shih tzu.
*Boom tish*
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I mentioned Netflix AU's price increase earlier. As to be expected Disney Plus has risen dramatically too for its second year. It's gone from $70AU annually to $117. Quite a leap there, but really, one we were all expecting.
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On 1/5/2022 at 12:31 PM, kav said:
Dexter is a ripoff of Becker in the David Wiltse novels. A cop who is a serial killer of serial killers.
So Ted Danson played not only a doctor, but a serial killer one too? Geez he hid that part well. Never even noticed, and I watched a couple of seasons of Becker.
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On 1/5/2022 at 10:49 PM, CGC Mike said:
I would like this discussion to move away from the racial aspect.
Oh,you had to read that post. My condolences, and please let me know if there's anything I can do for you. Do you need a meal train?
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Well, we hit month 5 over the holidays, and even BBTS has had enough. They've issued me a full refund, albeit as store credit (not what I've have preferred, but it's better than nothing) and I still need to double check to ensure they refunded me the shipping, too. I just couldn't be bothered getting involved in it all tonight when I'm already in bed. Of course if the package does arrive, they asked me to reject it for return to them, which of course goes without saying. I doubt that scenario will happen, but hey, stranger things and all that.
The bad news is not everything is still in stock, as I already knew and they've informed me again, so I'm bitterly disappointed to have lost out on some neat items, but it is what it is. I'll replace what I can, and what I can't I'll see how badly I want it off the aftermarket.
Once again, thanks for everyone's assistance in guiding me on how to handle it. While I have at times been cursing BBTS' name, I do understand they've done nothing wrong, and I hope this doesn't impair our long and fruitful business relationship. They've treated me very well over the years.
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About time us Xbox owners got to join the fun. I got my Series X at launch, ordered from Microsoft themselves, funnily enough. Went to order from Eb Games (Gamestop in Australia) but their site kept crashing, and they pushed it back for 12 hours. A friend then told me about the MS site, and sure enough, they still had units. Got it launch day, and had no problems, other than nothing new to play, just the same old games. Now Halo is finally out, but I'm happy to wait for them to actually finish it a bit more. I want to have a good experience with the campaign, and I'm not sure it's quite there, yet. The MP is fun, though, though I'm very out of practice.
I admit, I did buy the cat ears for my Spartan helmet, just to annoy those I kill.
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They're very good figures, those McFarlane Mortal Kombats. Admittedly Scorpion does have issues with getting his swords to stay on his belt, but it can be done. I just don't get why they're all MK11 figures, but they use the MK9 logo. So strange.
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Is there a chance the track could bend?
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On 1/5/2022 at 12:05 PM, @therealsilvermane said:I think you might be a little confused about the meaning of "pandering" and "tokenization" when it comes to film and television.
Pandering refers to giving the audience what they want. In fact, Spider-Man No Way Home might be the definition of a pandering film because it gave fans exactly what they wanted, a Spiderverse movie featuring the Spider-Mans of three different Spider-Man franchises swinging around together. However, one could say MCU films like Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, and Shang-Chi were not pandering at all because audiences weren't really asking for those films and their popularity upon release was unexpected. If the MCU were to truly pander to its audience, it would simply make another Iron Man movie or another Steve Rogers Captain America movie instead of the more challenging option of trying to make a Sam Wilson Captain America appeal to the general audience.
Tokenization is an older "industry term" used when most U.S. movie, television show, and commercial sets featured a mostly white cast and one or two black cast members (or other non-white ethnicity) was included for the sake of not making the cast seem all white. Nowadays, Hollywood and independent productions have figured out how to better tell the stories of all Americans, not just the white ones. And even if a Hollywood movie production wants its cast to be full of actors of different ethnicities for no real good reason, that's not tokenization, either. There is no Hollywood rule that says all your actors have to be white and if they're not white than you better have a darn good reason for not using all white actors. Again, tokenization is the U.S. industry practice of making one or two or cast members black or non-white in a large cast of mostly white actors in order to not look exclusionary of black or non-white people.
You accuse the MCU of pandering to the audience and tokenization apparently in a racial and gender sense, and you've referenced Shang-Chi and Eternals in past arguments.
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings doesn't pander to general audiences because the general audience never really asked for a Shang-Chi movie. Now, you could argue that Shang-Chi was made in part for the China market, but that's business sense, not pandering to the audience. The Shang-Chi movie isn't a tokenized movie, either. Shang-Chi is an actual character from Marvel Comics who is Chinese. The movie simply portrays that character and his story. I fail to see the tokenization in that. Shang-Chi is simply another character in Marvel Studios' menagerie of obscure super-heroes like Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy who have become household names because of the popularity of the MCU. I don't care if you didn't like Shang-Chi or a couple of disgruntled fans here didn't, a lot of fans loved the movie and it has one of the highest RT user ratings of a MCU movie.
The Eternals is another movie that can't be pandering to the audience if the audience never asked for the movie to begin with. Nobody knew what to expect with this movie as it was an unknown. This movie pandered to nobody. As for the Eternals being guilty of tokenization, I assume you mean because the Eternals featured an international cast of actors from Korea, Pakistan, Mexico, and a Chinese-British actor. I'm not counting the two American actors, or the two U.K. actors in your "tokenization" accusation as I assume you aren't either. It's not tokenization if the movie calls for actors from every corner of the globe because these super-heroes actually represent beings who have lived all over the world but also aren't tied to one country. They are not only galactic beings, they are worldly beings. The story and the cast reflects that. I don't care if you didn't find any of the characters relatable. A lot of fans liked this movie and yeah, found some of the characters relatable. Social media has revealed that Makkari, the deaf Eternal, is now a fan favorite.
In the end, my response to your post is that Shang-Chi and Eternals was neither pandering to audiences nor did it feature token characters. The story called for the cast that we got, particularly in the ancientness and worldliness of the Eternals characters, and that's what we got.
Nobody's reading that.
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On 1/5/2022 at 1:23 AM, @therealsilvermane said:
Also, God, why are some folks so adamantly against super-heroes that aren't all straight white dudes? God, please soften their hearts and make them realize that it's okay for people of all types no matter their gender, race, or sexual orientation to sit at the super-hero table because it's a pretty big table that you have provided. God, please stop the hate. Amen.
Hey, nah ah with that kind of , that's just being straight out antagonistic. You know that's not true. I dislike Brie as Captain Marvel because her performances I've seen have been IMO poorly acted, just not what I want from Carol. I'd love to recast her, and I don't care about her ethnicity or anything like that. I guess maybe now they may be trapped on what she looks like, otherwise I wouldn't be opposed if she were of a different ethnicity. Latina, maybe?
But now I've given you attention you don't deserve, so you've won again, but please refer to the first part of my point : be better.
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On 12/28/2021 at 4:49 AM, The Meta said:
I havent heard this rendition, just the little bit in the Batman trailer
A bit late, but it's this one.
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Finally saw this today, and it was, well, it was alright. I actually liked Black Widow more, but my mother, who I watched both films with, preferred Shang-Chi, which I told her is the prevailing consensus. I spent half the film complaining in my head about the Ben Kingsley recast, only to get to the end credits and realise it actually was him! Whooops! I just didn't find enough characters to be compelling enough to keep my interest beside Shang, WenWu, Sister whose spelling I'll butcher right now (XiaLing?), and Katy.
It was nice seeing Wong again, always a treat.
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Disney+'s THE BOOK OF BOBA FETT (2021)
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I just want to reshare that I misremembered Black Krrsantan as Black Chrysanthemum.