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On 10/3/2023 at 5:13 PM, Dr. Balls said:I could have swore this would have pegged a 9.8, which is why I sent it in. Not a bend, tick, fingernail impression, blunted corner - nothing :
Last 9.8 sale: $22
That makes my 9.6 worthless in every sense of the word. $35 or whatever to grade, shipping costs, the cost of the book to begin with ($10) and initial shipping ($6). I just wanted this as a 9.8 on my bookshelf, because I felt a 9.6 was pretty much worthless. Irony.
Want to increase the value? You just need to start the rumor that Marvel's "Hip Hop" cover trend actually began in 1984 with this Michael Jackson Thriller cover.
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On 10/4/2023 at 9:32 AM, fantastic_four said:On 10/4/2023 at 9:26 AM, valiantman said:On 10/4/2023 at 8:06 AM, fantastic_four said:
There's no shame in it despite the large number of kids and lower-income young adults who constantly complain about it on Reddit and in other forums.
To play devil's advocate, it's hard to believe "there's no shame in it" in anything that has to be described as "there's no shame in it"
We all benefit from capitalism, but kids don't know that. Even a third of adults don't realize that it's still better than every other option, at least for now. If Roy posted in this thread he'd defend the anti-capitalist perspective. That will change eventually once automation starts significantly decreasing the value of human labor, but I'll be pretty shocked if I live to see that. My kids might.
Whining and jealousy are much older than capitalism and artificial intelligence. "I want it", "I want it now", "I want it for free", and "I don't like when others get what I want" are children's thoughts. It's sad when they're still stuck in adult heads.
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On 10/4/2023 at 8:06 AM, fantastic_four said:
There's no shame in it despite the large number of kids and lower-income young adults who constantly complain about it on Reddit and in other forums.
To play devil's advocate, it's hard to believe "there's no shame in it" in anything that has to be described as "there's no shame in it"
Babies can't physically hold on to candy, so there's no shame in taking it from them.
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On 10/3/2023 at 9:56 PM, COI said:On 10/3/2023 at 4:39 PM, valiantman said:If a book isn't worth slabbing in CGC 9.6 (or lower), it isn't worth slabbing at all, because it is a meaningless book.
Unless it's a 9.8, then it's worth slabbing.
It's profitable to sell CGC 9.8 slabs for books that are meaningless, but that doesn't make them meaningful. Nothing books in perfect condition are still nothing books. How do you know a book is meaningless? If the CGC 9.6 isn't worth slabbing, then the book is meaningless. A CGC 9.8 of that same book is just a prettier copy of meaningless. Profitable? Yes. Meaningful? Not in the slightest.
Books can become meaningful over time. Some keys aren't keys until it's understood later how important they were. But until a CGC 9.6 has enough value to be worth slabbing, the book (in any condition) is meaningless and most will stay that way.
Time can also do the reverse, and books that had value as CGC 9.6 in the past can become meaningless. This happens often. Hype dies down, buyers move on to the next thing, and "meaningful" books become meaningless.
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On 10/3/2023 at 8:41 PM, MattTheDuck said:
A CGC 9.6 condition of this book would definitely be worth slabbing, therefore this book is not meaningless.
By contrast, there are CGC 9.6 slabbed books which are worth less than $20, indicating that the book inside is meaningless, and every copy raw or slabbed of the book in any condition is also meaningless.
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On 10/3/2023 at 6:32 PM, bluehorseshoe said:On 10/3/2023 at 1:37 PM, valiantman said:
I don't see any examples of books that aren't meaningless in these replies.
In the 2 replies that were posted when you wrote this
... or any since.
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Since it's unlikely to happen, I'll just say that there was a pretty cool "fan fiction" hypothesis that if Thrawn could be somehow delayed (time dilation, faster-than-light travel) in his return to the Star Wars galaxy, he could arrive AFTER the events of Rise of Skywalker and be the new Star Wars "big bad" post-Emperor.
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On 10/3/2023 at 2:15 PM, Happy Noodle Boy said:
I see dealers on youtube talking about how certain books need to be graded at 9.8 to have any value. But I think any book that only has value as a graded 9.8 has no actual value at all.
Exactly the point of this topic.
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On 10/3/2023 at 1:33 PM, Senormac said:
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I don't see any examples of books that aren't meaningless in these replies.
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Brian Fray?
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EDIT: Since the point wasn't clear to all, if a graded CGC 9.6 condition of a particular book would be worthless (not worth the cost of grading), and only a CGC 9.8 has enough value to justify getting the book graded, then the book itself is meaningless... and there's no reason to grade any of them.
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On 10/3/2023 at 6:36 AM, namisgr said:
It's also weird that these beefs are being made public using devices and services that are based on sophisticated and complex robotics-based miniaturization, construction, and assembly, along with use of ultra-high frequency signals not routinely accessed before outside of aviation, and codes written and evaluated by combined contributions of humans and specialized machines, all part of the very technological advances that are being painted negatively.
... using devices in orbit that make it possible for groups like flat earth societies to thrive all around the globe.
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On 9/27/2023 at 2:20 PM, awakeintheashes said:
Would it make sense that the cargo/crates/
Spoilercoffins are dead Jedi? Very few disappear when they die.
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On 9/22/2023 at 7:51 AM, I like pie said:Yea. Visually, Lars just didn't "fit" in this role. It's great to have the voice but they should have cast someone that looks more like Thrawn and do a voice-over.
They matched the original 1991 Thrawn close enough for me. I've had a vague image in my memory since the books came out.
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On 10/20/2021 at 9:25 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:
This will sell for a lot of money when people realize it predicted Russell Brand and Katy Perry back in 1993.
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On 9/20/2023 at 2:38 PM, buttock said:
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. I'm curious if there are whole years where you see a deviation. Paper quality really declined in the 1950s, so presumably books as a whole from that era might not be as well-preserved.
Anything "not worth submitting to CGC" is likely to pull down the CGC average if we could get every existing copy graded. We should expect most raw books existing after the 1960s to still be "not worth submitting to CGC".
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On 9/20/2023 at 1:21 PM, buttock said:
Interesting. Are there years that drop off of the curve? I could see the 1950s having some outliers.
I don't think it's necessary to have at least a CGC 6.5 to have an above average copy of Amazing Fantasy #15 (1962). A universal CGC 3.5 is probably always going to be average on Amazing Fantasy #15, so everything from CGC 4.0 to CGC 6.0 would also be above average (besides everything 6.2 or higher since the book is from 1962).
If there are books that primarily survived as part of high grade warehouse/file copies, then above average would probably need to be higher than the year, but generally speaking, those situations (like Gaines copies of E.C. Comics) still work fairly well with the "above the year" grade guidance. Shock SuspenStories #1 (1952) has 170 CGC universal graded copies and averages 5.9. There are multiple copies of CGC 9.8 and even a CGC 9.9 for this book. We would predict 5.2 (or CGC 5.5) as the line for average, so CGC 6.0 would be predicted to be above average.
Mad #22 (1955) has an average CGC universal grade of 7.0, so it doesn't match the expectation, but there may be lots of raw copies ungraded that would bring the average down and a graded 7.0 is not significantly different than a graded 6.0, if you're trying to get above 5.5 (for 1955).
Heroes, Inc. Presents Cannon (1969) is definitely an outlier (basically 100% warehouse copies), since CGC 7.0 is at the bottom of the CGC census even though 7.0 is higher than 6.9 (1969). Who knows how many copies are raw... but it would take hundreds of lower graded copies to be CGC graded to significantly pull the CGC average down from the current 9.47.
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On 9/19/2023 at 6:01 PM, valiantman said:
I guess one good thing that comes out of this particular collectible (as a memory) is that I never had any shirts with value in the first place. My entire wardrobe in the 1980s was just child's size versions of whatever my Dad wore. I don't think anyone's paying thousands of dollars for this yet, are they?
I guess I answered my own question...
On 9/19/2023 at 4:59 PM, valiantman said:Each generation's "this is neat but I'm going to throw it away when I'm done with it" becomes the next generation's collectibles.
... my shirts would not have qualified for "this is neat..."
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On 9/19/2023 at 4:58 PM, twoseezy said:
Can someone alert GPA of this recent Fake ebay sale?
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Ahsoka
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... but I'm just being a smart hass.