thedude

Welcome to the boards. We need good detectives like you here. That was great leg work. Although I think this issue was put to bed a while back. However still a nice tidbit. 1999 hmm? I don't think it was "put to bed" so much as the results were inconclusive, I can definitely say that the 1999 public release date is wrong since I bought two off them of the rack in 1993, just don't remember which month.

keep us posted as to what you find out Meck (thumbs u

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come on guys, it's a fun thread, can't think of the last thread I participated in that was as much fun, beats another pressing thread, I too would like to know which came first, and it may turn out to be nothing, but it is fun, I think some people are nervous that BA12 might not be the first app. of Harley, going so far as to call this "Almost Got Im" book a "toy" or "children's book", but I say wasn't BA12 not long ago dismissed as a childrens book due to the art and the disconnect to DC continuity? if cover price was on these book/tape books were originally $8.00, then I'm in to them for $16 total, If it turns out to be the 2nd Harley Quinn, I'm sure the book's value has risen to new heights and probably will be on more collector's radars either way.

I decided to purchase the book and tape combo and send it to Beta Analytics in Miami, Florida for carbon dating. They claim to be able to carbon date the paper and ink. With the carbon dating results, they also can perform a simple test which will tell us the exact date the ink was applied to the paper. Using oxygen sensor equipment, they will also be able to determine when the book was encapsulated in the plastic case. We should have our answer to this mystery in about two weeks.

late '92 you say.

so your saying we still don't know? I would say it would be next to impossible to determine which book was on store shelves first. if only I'd kept my receipt that day.

that's not me guys, I swear!

gotta take care of some things guys, I'm out, have fun.

Wish I had two . . . not in this one for the money, since like I said I paid cover way back when, just like knowing what is and what isn't, that's all. I think it's pretty cool, as is BA12 or most things with Harley, Understood, but I would submit the open copy to CGC if I were you . . . create the conundrum maybe, but I'm in no hurry.

Wish I had two . . . not in this one for the money, since like I said I paid cover way back when, just like knowing what is and what isn't, that's all. I think it's pretty cool, as is BA12 or most things with Harley,

good job Divad.

very cool!

It makes for an interesting addition ala the Hellboy early appearances and the Goon early appearances. So, if it is shown this comic is the earliest appearance of Harley Quinn in comics, does CGC change the verbiage on the slabs to reflect this in the future? Does it take someone sending in one of these comics with some sort of proof on publishing date in order for them to update the verbiage? The sticking point here will be that date. If this comic/tape combo was in stores prior to BA 12, then it is clearly the first comic with Harley Quinn's appearance. But how do you really prove that? Some additional information for anyone that is interested, the "Almost Got 'Im" story in this comic book is an adaptation of the 46th episode of Batman: The Animated Series titled "Almost Got 'Im". This would be the 3rd episode with Harley Quinn, her first was "Joker's Favor" (episode 22) and "The Laughing Fish" (episode 34). "Almost Got 'Im" aired on November 10, 1992. The ISBN for the book is 978-0307143761. AllBookstores.com lists the publishing date as April 1, 1993. Most online sites show the date as December 31, 1999 or just 1999 including Amazon. This cannot be correct unless there was a subsequent printing. (All indications are this date is just incorrect and there is no subsequent printings.) My guess is December 31, 1999 (the last day in the 1990s) is the date for a book without a concrete date published in the 1990s on Amazon's site and most other book sellers used Amazon's data. Is there an authoritative source for publishing dates by ISBN? that's the first time I've seen an actual month date listed.

I have the other BTAS book/tape with Poison Ivy "Plants of Peril" I don't think Harley is in that one, but I will check.

It makes for an interesting addition ala the Hellboy early appearances and the Goon early appearances. So, if it is shown this comic is the earliest appearance of Harley Quinn in comics, does CGC change the verbiage on the slabs to reflect this in the future? Does it take someone sending in one of these comics with some sort of proof on publishing date in order for them to update the verbiage? The sticking point here will be that date. If this comic/tape combo was in stores prior to BA 12, then it is clearly the first comic with Harley Quinn's appearance. But how do you really prove that? CGC stays inline with Overstreet in what they list on the labels. which I believe is because OS has for many years been considered the industry standard, However, OS just recently broke out BA12 as the first Harley when it's been common knowledge for years now, also, Overstreet lists Action Comics #29 as the first Lois Lane cover when it has been clearly proven that she is on the cover of Action #27 and we know that's her becuz on the inside story Lois is wearing the same yellow dress that she is on the cover, but Overstreet has not changed it in over 40 years, I even wonder if the girl falling on the cover of Action #23 is Lois, but that's hard to prove since the scene on the cover does not happen in the inside story. my point being that once a common believe is agreed upon, it's very difficult to change opinions, but that's where you just have to use your own judgement. if it could be proven that this book came out even a month or so earlier than BA12, then to me that's the first appearance, especially since it's not just a one panel cameo, and she has multiple pages with dialogue in the story. it doesn't really matter to me as I got my two copies for cover price back in the day and don't have a huge amount of $$ into them. I can see why Overstreet doesn't want to change listings easily, at least until they have been proven, but no changes or very slow changes is one of the reasons I feel that they are becoming obsolete.

It definitely looks like a comic book to me unlike some of those early He-Man mini-comics which are more text with accompanying picture. So, how many pages does it have? 32 Are there ads in addition to the comic pages? NO Who published it? Western Publishing Company Inc. Does it credit the writer/artist/inker/etc.? YES (see pics below) Does it have an indicia? YES (see pics below) Publish date in the indicia? YES, it says 1993 (see pics below) I'm still interested in hearing the detail about this comic. your questions are answered above in bold. here are some additional pics. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us here is a pic of the back of my sealed copy, the packaging that the book and tape are contained in. Uploaded with ImageShack.us

took mine out and took a few more pics of the interiors, Harley is on quite a few pages and has alot of dialogue, as it turns out I have two of these, one still sealed and this one which I opened. I think around that time I was buying two of alot of things, one to keep sealed and another to open as that's what I had heard toy collectors do. anyway, here's the pics. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us last image too big, click link below to view. http://imageshack.us/a/img199/459/had8.JPG

nice, that is very cool

that's some sexy azz bread!

well, one things for sure, there are currently none available on eBay.

always the bridesmaid....

I have a lunch receipt ticket with a mustard stain on it dated Jan 1992 that shows what Paul Dini and Bruce Timm had for lunch the day they first thought of Harley Quinn. does that count?