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Posts posted by Hepcat

  1. On 5/15/2024 at 11:19 AM, LordRahl said:

    Is that so? Please find me one of these common as dirt Tomahawk 116's or HoM 175's in 9.6 or 9.8:baiting: And I won't be expecting to pay an arm and a leg for them because they are so common. 

    But tth2 specified Marvels and neither of those two comics are Marvels meaning they're not nearly as common as Marvels from the same time period.


  2. On 5/15/2024 at 4:51 AM, tth2 said:

    Also, if there are a ton of other copies (pedigree and/or non-pedigree) as good or better as the pedigree book, then I would attach very little (or any) premium to the book.  For example, is there really anything premium about a 9.6 Rocky Mountain or Oakland Marvel from the mid- or late-1960s that is one of many 9.6 copies and behind many 9.8 copies in the Census? 


    The whole reason a mystique developed around pedigrees in the first place was that they contained pristine copies of books that were otherwise impossible to find in such condition.  So GA pedigrees and then SA pedigrees that contained books from the 1950s and early 1960s that were impossible to find in grade.  But pristine books from 1968 are as common as dirt, so there's nothing particularly special about a pedigree book from that period being pristine.



  3. On 5/15/2024 at 7:52 AM, Scrooge said:

    ...I am arbitrarily collecting the run only up to issue # 122, the last issue with the strip on the left-hand side with the character heads, which puts an end to my run circa 1954.

    By the same token to preserve my own sanity I'm semi-arbitrarily only going back to issue #83 cover dated June 1951 which is the first issue without the MGM lion and the big rectangle logo:

    s-l1600_fsWBPRURpTWPBtz2eXTpqF.webp (Not mine.)

    My stepping off point is of course the 1962 issue where Gold Key begins as the publisher.


  4. On 5/14/2024 at 6:20 PM, Jstan70 said:

    This might not qualify as it's not a "recognized" pedigree by CGC....

    So who says that CGC's is the final word on the subject? (Other than CGC themselves of course.)

    On 5/14/2024 at 6:20 PM, Jstan70 said:

    Speaking of pedigrees, does anyone know of a useful (aka "within the realm of 'accurate'") rule-of-thumb type of guide to how much of a premium a pedigree should command vs. the same book in the same grade that's not a pedigree?  Been looking at a book on Ebay for a while now (even tried messaging the seller without any luck) that is listed at 4x the FMV of that book in that grade just because it's a pedigree.  Sounded wrong to me, but hoping to find some kind of web page/YT video/etc. to confirm one way or the other. 

    Well 4x is ridiculous. I might pay 20-25% more depending upon the scarcity of the issue and how much I want that particular issue.


  5. On 5/14/2024 at 10:20 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

    I like comics because when you buy one, it is it's own issue, as opposed to packs of cards where you might chase a certain one, but what about all the others in the pack?

    I'm an old school collector. I won't buy a card unless I'm interested in acquiring the rest of the cards in the set. That's why I'm very hesitant to add a new different card to my collection because it would mean I've embarked on a new collection. 

    That once again means I'm not on the same page with collectors of the cards being issued these days.


  6. On 5/14/2024 at 8:28 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

    And no mine aren't Tiffany, I wasn't even aware there was such a thing as a kid, I guess that is the difference between a $50,000 card and $200?


    Hmmmm. Says PSA: "The exception, however, is that this Tiffany set features gloss-covered fronts with a white cardstock reverse. Cal Ripken, Jr. (#9), Roger Clemens (#26), Mark McGwire (#197), Nolan Ryan (#225), and Barry Bonds (#426) anchor the set. Rookie cards in the series include Robin Ventura (#65), Gary Sheffield (#142), Ken Griffey, Jr. (#220), John Smoltz (#266), and Sandy Alomar, Jr. (#454). This Bowman issue was available solely as a factory set with an estimated 6,000 sets created."

    So the difference is that there are "only" about 6000 Tiffany cards.


    On 5/14/2024 at 8:30 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

    Lol so much to say, I should be patient if there is to be a response, but all this just doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever!

    Well on that point anyway we're on the same page. It doesn't make sense to me either. But then many things in this day and age don't.


  7. On 5/14/2024 at 8:24 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

    The only set I bought as a kid was in 1989, but it was Bowman, I still don't think it is worth much.

    So what? Does it all come down to the price it may fetch for you now? Doesn't aesthetics come into play? 

    On 5/14/2024 at 8:24 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

    It isn't sealed and I haven't counted the cards to see if they're all there.


    So much Kate 80's early 90's drek worth of baseball cards, and short of scrapping them to a card store, idk that I can come out ahead on anything lol

    Ahead? Do you like the cards or not? I guess you don't since you haven't even looked through them let alone put them in sheets and binders. But then why do you have/keep them?

    Me I would never have accumulated any of my collectibles if I didn't derive delight and satisfaction from their possession.


  8. On 5/13/2024 at 11:32 AM, Scrooge said:

    My favorite is simply War Comics.... Bonus: you still get some good Heath covers as part of the run.

    Russ Heath's Silver Age DC War comic artwork ranks a very close second to that of Joe Kubert in my book. That being said, I think his artwork is simply too "clean" when it comes to the dark and gritty Atlas War comics of the 1950's. I think the work of less heralded artists such as Carl Burgos and Sol Brodsky were better suited to the tone of Atlas War comics.

    Moreover I think War comics should by nature be dark and gritty to fit the subject matter. That's one of the reasons I hate the Golden Age stories of superheroes, including their kid sidekicks(!), involved in war action as if war was just another grand adventure. For that reason I also prefer Sgt. Rock to Sgt. Fury in the 1960's because Sgt. Rock treated the war as not an opportunity for heroism but only something to be endured because he had no choice.

    But I also hated it when Superhero comics went to the opposite extreme beginning in the late 1980's when the protagonists all became dark, gritty and ever so tough with perpetual snarls on their faces. And that was the heroines. The male heroes were even worse.


  9. On 4/26/2024 at 6:35 PM, lbcolefan said:



    On 4/27/2024 at 4:56 PM, lbcolefan said:

    Thanks!  I picked up 3 more tough ones from the same seller. But I didn’t get the one I really wanted.

    The bin was $225. I should have bought it then but I made an offer for $200. It sold soon after that.:pullhair:

    It’s one of my top 10 covers.


    Who drew those two covers? Norm Saunders perhaps?


  10. On 5/14/2024 at 11:34 AM, Robot Man said:

    My first comics were late ‘50’s early ‘60’s DC war. My dad bought them and gave them to me after he read them along with Batman & Detectives. I loved the stories and art by Kubert & Heath.

    Great intro to comics! 


    Mine was Dell Disney and Tom and Jerry titles plus Harvey Felix the Cat titles in the late 1950's. My post-War immigrant father was very old school and dismissed all comics, particularly the funny animals, as "monkeys". Somehow though he rated Mad and Drag Cartoons magazines a cut above. He of course never even flipped through them.


    It was I who introduced my father to elements of New World culture such as football and baseball instead of the other way around. He picked up on the detail that I favoured the Edmonton Eskimos but wondered why CFL teams didn't play against NFL teams. I would have explained to him that the game in Canada was very different than that in the States but he'd still say that they should all be thrown in together somehow. Exposure to hockey he couldn't avoid at work.