Yeahiwasder4dat

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Everything is in an enormous bubble. Sports cards, Pokemon, you name it. To buy any of it as a long term investment at the moment is bonkers. The equivalent of finding the most overpriced stock on the market and yoloing money into it like GME. The people that got in before got rich, the people buying in now are most likely going to get railed so hard they'll need a wheelchair. Get in early, get big $$. Get in before correction, get big pounding. Written by a wet tissue paper handed mofo.

Them opening your box before mine that day might have been your salvation. Cause I imagine the wave of submissions are going to hit within the next day or two and mine is still received. I'm what one might call "fuuuuuuuuuuuuucked".

Must be some time travellers, because no one graded anything 20 years ago 🤔 Buying in now is like buying in the 80s-90s.

What's that? I can imagine my bulk that was within days of grading probably just got shafted into oblivion.

A lot of it also has to due with printing issues from last year and COVID. We should see some recovery in terms of being able to buy cards at retail eventually. So for collecting purposes it should put a lot of people back in the game. Hopefully it doesn't turn into a 80s-90s scenario where they print 24/7 though.

As long as it graded by PSA, BGS, CGC, SGC now people dont care. They'll send cards anywhere. There isn't much in terms of brand loyalty for Pokemon cards. Anything other than those 4 places don't get good returns so people don't use random shady jank card services. PSA was the biggest boy in town, BGS was second. BGS is already up mess creek. SGC only a week or so ago got their turnaround under control. With the biggest player of the four out of the picture the others are about to get demolished.

Do some math on what a 150+ card sub would be at express and what the value of the cards would have to be for ROI at that price. The waiting for grading isn't an issue. PAYING up front for a service that won't be completed for X months is an issue. No mess, you think express is faster than bulk? What an astute observation.

All you need is a cheap sonic welder and you're good to go.

GMA

Think you mean GMA, to double work space and all.

I'm assuming because it was so close maybe they thought it would fit so it made it all the way through the process, or they just didn't realize that was still in there. Either way, without being slabbed that label doesn't do me much good beyond knowing what it would grade. I'm just curious how they only have a single holder they use. If I was the person trying to get my Yastrzemski into that holder without damaging it I'd have been sweating so hard I'd have to shower after. Touches all four stops in the case.

Yeah, it'll be something to see for sure. I think this is on a scale that simply can't matched. There's never been anything even remotely close to this size of interest, or money flowing into cards. Not something to be underestimated, I've seen people getting into fights over cards at stores multiple times. Gettin wild out in these card streets.

I'm somewhat in the same boat, I've moved to selling mostly sealed product but at this point it sure would be nice just to liquidate those cards graded or not.

PSA I'm pretty sure acquired two. They have a lot of other business than pokemon but still. Takes a while to furnish and hire for it to be operational. They may be looking at a wave they aren't prepared to handle even if Job site 2 was already running. Maybe I'm too conservative but I'd think they'd preemptively limit them, like yesterday before everyone sends what was going to PSA to them and mess hits the fan. Then once building two is up and running start taking on more and more as production allows. Easier to prevent than to deal with the fallout.

I would assume you're correct and that the bottom is about to fall out. I mentioned on here a week or so ago, the time was coming to limit subs, or stop them for a short period followed by limiting. PSA did it now. At a certain point it becomes the only viable option to not be completely overwhelmed. Just from a logistics standpoint, you have to store all of this somewhere. Once you factor in PSA just shut the doors, it's about to get wild for all the other companies.

What went up again?

Surely not, but everyone has a limit on what they're willing to put up with. We all have our limits. Mine just happens to be money.

I mean look at the difference between Econ and Bulk TAT? What is that? If I had the cash on hand I probably would, unfortunately I'm not made of money 😂

I'm 29, with a family. I don't rant to the degree he does, but sitting at 75 business days 2.5x the "approximate" turn around. I can assure you I'm not happy with it either. Most things in life I'm chill but some things such as messing with my money I have no patience with. 250% past the estimated time is just absurd after it's already been paid for. If it was just the wait time increase it honestly wouldn't bother me a tremendous amount. The paying up front to be delayed again, and again, and again. Not sure age has a tremendous amount to do with it.

There are like four threads on the front page under yours. They're behind roughly 3 weeks or something on opening mail.

I'm imagining not paying for it six months in advance.

They did the same thing to me. $40 for nothing.

I sold my 62s Mantle/Aaron/Koufax/Musial and many others in a lot raw. I hate the wood border. Not something I enjoyed looking at. Not everything has to be graded, but people sending in some real dog mess to be slabbed. Like $2 raw cards. These turned out well from CSG considering most cards from these years wouldn't grade above a 7 tops since production was less sophisticated back then. Them not having a larger holder for this Mantle that's like a mm wide kinda chapped my though.

I feel like a lot of that would have to do with the respect the other grading company warrants. I'm not a comic collector, mostly vintage baseball and pokemon. My understanding is that CBCS is considered sub-par to CGC so I could see why they didn't steal a large section from them. It almost seems as though CGC was caught unaware by the surge. When you have a market so hot that even illiegitimate services are getting backlogged it's probably not much of a gamble to throw money at it. With the current market their service doesn't have to be better, just comparable as it's very limited on where to get it done, and other services were already slammed at the time, with it getting worse by the day. The TAT was the biggest advantage they had going, so I would've thought production speed would have been prioritized over all. Not sacrificing quality, but that the money would be allocated to continue to hold that advantage as long as possible. Knowing there are a finite number of graders and resources and money can't fix everything, I'm surprised they didn't structure things off the get go to maintain TAT.Whatever protected TAT as that was their biggest selling point over everyone else. Hindsight is 20/20, but I'm surprised they didn't start expanding late last year instead of a few months into this one.