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This Week Back From CGC
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Wow.

 

I just got the results of my latest, and first in years, submission, and the results are horrible... All, but 2, which were my lowest grade books, came back lower than expected... One of 2 things has happened. Either I poorly packaged the books or CGC's standards have changed the last 2 years. Or perhaps both.

 

My modern submissions used to come back 0.2-0.5 higher on average per book, and now they're 0.2-1.0 lower on average than expected...

 

I'm shocked because I expected my first 9.9s in this submission. Instead, 75% of the 30+ books are coming back 9.6 or lower, instead of 75% of them being 9.8 or higher. Heck, a dealer friend thought most of them were the nicest copies he'd ever seen of these issues... :P

 

The books I submitted cost as much to grade them as they are now "worth". 9.6s for these puppies barely covers the cost. :tonofbricks:

 

My last few comic book decisions have been financial disasters. I'm going to stick to investing in the "blue chip" books like AF#15 and the like. No more banking on high grade moderns.

 

Has anyone else experienced a similar shock after a long hiatus from submitting books? I'm really eager to see them in person so I can look for any damage that might have occurred in transit on the way there.

 

SIDE NOTE: I've got little run of ASMs in the #285-375 range (mostly McFarlanes and Carnage issues) graded 9.4-9.8 that I don't want if anyone is interested. PM me for details. I'm only going to keep the #300 and a couple of others.

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Why people still don't use Pre-screen Service is a mystery to me...[/font]

 

(shrug)

Well, in my case it's simple math for modern books.

 

1) Of my previously 100+ submitted moderns, at least 85% came back above my expected grade (I was very confident in my grading skills, but no longer, unless it's my packaging skills that have eroded and led to in transit damage...);

 

2) I'm in Canada. It costs an arm and a leg to ship books to and from CGC. Paying an additional X$ USD for the pre-screen if too many of them don't make the cut is cost-prohibitive for the type of books I usually send in; and

 

3) I've never accumulated enough books to make the cut. My friend submitted a few with me, but we couldn't wait any longer, because he needed his back in time for a convention (he's a dealer).

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Why people still don't use Pre-screen Service is a mystery to me...[/font]

 

(shrug)

Well, in my case it's simple math for modern books.

 

2) I'm in Canada. It costs an arm and a leg to ship books to and from CGC. Paying an additional X$ USD for the pre-screen if too many of them don't make the cut is cost-prohibitive for the type of books I usually send in; and

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Yep, shipping books down there average between $25-$40 and the return is minimum $60. Stupid Canada!

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Wow.

 

I just got the results of my latest, and first in years, submission, and the results are horrible... All, but 2, which were my lowest grade books, came back lower than expected... One of 2 things has happened. Either I poorly packaged the books or CGC's standards have changed the last 2 years. Or perhaps both.

 

My modern submissions used to come back 0.2-0.5 higher on average per book, and now they're 0.2-1.0 lower on average than expected...

 

I'm shocked because I expected my first 9.9s in this submission. Instead, 75% of the 30+ books are coming back 9.6 or lower, instead of 75% of them being 9.8 or higher. Heck, a dealer friend thought most of them were the nicest copies he'd ever seen of these issues... :P

 

The books I submitted cost as much to grade them as they are now "worth". 9.6s for these puppies barely covers the cost. :tonofbricks:

 

My last few comic book decisions have been financial disasters. I'm going to stick to investing in the "blue chip" books like AF#15 and the like. No more banking on high grade moderns.

 

Has anyone else experienced a similar shock after a long hiatus from submitting books? I'm really eager to see them in person so I can look for any damage that might have occurred in transit on the way there.

 

SIDE NOTE: I've got little run of ASMs in the #285-375 range (mostly McFarlanes and Carnage issues) graded 9.4-9.8 that I don't want if anyone is interested. PM me for details. I'm only going to keep the #300 and a couple of others.

 

CGC was ridiculously loose on moderns 2-3 years ago - they've tightened up considerably since then, so what you're probably seeing is CGC giving your books the "correct" grades (versus the gift grades you would have gotten back in 2011). Sorry to hear about your 9.6s :foryou:

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...Of course though, just my luck, the 9.8 came back with a crack on the back of the case :cry:

 

The last order I got back from the CGC had 3 cracked slabs, so I know exactly how you feel.

 

Thankfully, it is on the back of the case and the posts and everything are intact so I am following up with a reholder.

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Haven't had a whole lot of time for comics lately, but needed to use my 4 coupons from my CGC membership. Very happy with the results. 3 new books for my registry set and a book that I enjoyed when I was a kid.

 

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