Baker Romance 43 43

[Yorick]

On 5/2/2018 at 12:27 PM, Yorick said:

Not going to be "high" grade, but with only four copies on the census I figured I'd sent it in.  I'll post the grade when it returns.

 

 

On 5/2/2018 at 1:39 PM, Sqeggs said:

It's a tough one.  I sent my copy in for grading recently, so we'll be increasing the census count by 50%!

I feel this grade is accurate.  Not so sure about the others I sent.

 

[Sqeggs]

The damage along the spine probably brought the grade down, but it’s still a nice copy. 

[Yorick]

1 minute ago, Sqeggs said:

The damage along the spine probably brought the grade down, but it’s still a nice copy. 

You must have yours back by now? 

[Sqeggs]

9 minutes ago, Yorick said:

You must have yours back by now? 

Nope ... and looking at my invoices at CGC, I don't see it on any of them.  I guess I must have not sent it in.  Which raises the question of where the heck I put it. 

[Sqeggs]

Under "W" all I can find is Woody Woodpecker in Chevrolet Wonderland.  A classic of its type, of course, but not the book I was looking for. 

[Yorick]

5 minutes ago, Sqeggs said:

Which raises the question of where the heck I put it.

I'm trying to update my registry sets and have that exact same problem!  I know I have that book graded.... somewhere.

Regarding the Registry, I just achieved a WHOPPING seven points for my Cinderella Love 28 CGC 4.0!!!! 

[Yorick]

So this is one book that I felt was graded kinda harshly:

 

[sagii]

5 hours ago, Yorick said:

So this is one book that I felt was graded kinda harshly:

 

Looks like a solid copy to me. Nice colors too. 

[sacentaur]

There seems to be a trend of leveling off of prices on Bakers (not talking exceptional, rare, or condition books here... just generally) - agree/disagree?

[october]

8 minutes ago, sacentaur said:

There seems to be a trend of leveling off of prices on Bakers (not talking exceptional, rare, or condition books here... just generally) - agree/disagree?

Agree. I actually think interest has noticeably declined in sub-4.0 grades. 

[Ryan.]

Definitely.

[Sqeggs]

I agree as well.  I think it's a normal supply response.  As interest in Baker increased and prices started to rise, collectors began tracking these books down and dealers wised up to the fact that they were selling for multiples of guide and were worth having graded.

I think it's similar to what happened with IH 1.  I don't follow that market too closely, but my impression is that after prices spiked a couple of years ago, a lot of copies in mid to low grades were slabbed and prices stalled. 

[Sqeggs]

21 hours ago, Yorick said:

So this is one book that I felt was graded kinda harshly:

 

Well, don't keep us in suspense! 

I'll guess it got a 4.5. 

[Sqeggs]

6 minutes ago, szavisca said:

Can’t speak much for romance because I don’t follow them as closely, but a lot of the non romance still seems to be on the rise, though they’re generally only 10-20% the value of comparably graded romance books.

Full disclosure I’ve been trying to grab as many as I can when I can find them cheaply.  

Here’s 2 recent strong sales, there’s dozens of other such strong sales for Baker Babe non romance recently.

https://m.ebay.com/itm/-/302750782146?_trksid=p2349624.m2548.l10137&nordt=true&rt=nc

http://www.comiclink.com/search_adv.asp?all=y&TITLE=Classic+comics&TITLEOPT=ALL&ISSUE=32&Condition=&ConditionTo=&CensusRank=&SearchPageQuality=&Pedigree=&PRICEF=&PRICET=&DESCRIPTION=&DESCRIPTIONOPT=ALL&SearchRemarks=&SearchCGC=&EXCLUDE=&CATEGORIES=-1&WCATEGORIES=-1&SORT=CATEG&_where_forsale=y&_where_auctions=y&x=0&y=0&where_forsale=y

 

I paid rather a lot for a Hawk 11 on eBay a while back.  It's a double cover that the seller graded VG+.  On it's way back from CGC as a 7.0 (outer cover 5.5), so I'd count that as a win.  Currently there is a lone 7.5 copy on the census. 

[Ricksneatstuff]

1 hour ago, sacentaur said:

There seems to be a trend of leveling off of prices on Bakers (not talking exceptional, rare, or condition books here... just generally) - agree/disagree?

I’ve had this conversation via DM with several people here. Yes, I believe the “filler” issues in 5.0 or less have seen a settling.  There is still interest in raw 3.0 Bakers but for $100-200 not $300+ unless it is one of the more salacious or rare books.  There is still plenty of interest in these great books but the money is being spent more selectively. I still get a couple requests a week for a Cinderella Love 25 or GCE 12, etc. 

It feels like there are 4 different tiers of desirability in this niche and the top tier is as strong as ever but the other tiers have cooled off some.  

This is coming from someone who still has a fair amount of the tier 2 and 3 books. All this being said I felt the same way about DeCarlo GGA a little over a year ago when I thought it cooled down and then it Exploded, so who knows?

Edited June 1, 2018 by Ricksneatstuff

[Sqeggs]

42 minutes ago, Ricksneatstuff said:

I’ve had this conversation via DM with several people here. Yes, I believe the “filler” issues in 5.0 or less have seen a settling.  There is still interest in raw 3.0 Bakers but for $100-200 not $300+ unless it is one of the more salacious or rare books.  There is still plenty of interest in these great books but the money is being spent more selectively. I still get a couple requests a week for a Cinderella Love 25 or GCE 12, etc. 

It feels like there are 4 different tiers of desirability in this niche and the top tier is as strong as ever but the other tiers have cooled off some.  

This is coming from someone who still has a fair amount of the tier 2 and 3 books. All this being said I felt the same way about DeCarlo GGA a little over a year ago when I thought it cooled down and then it Exploded, so who knows?

Four tiers?  You're probably right, but I'd love to have examples from each tier.

I've thought for a while (and we may even have discussed the point in this thread) that there's a pretty clear division between Bakers that have a strong GGA component (hello, GCE 12!) and those that don't.  TAR 42 might be in the latter category.  It's a very tough book, but it's GGA appeal is limited, so the market for it pretty much consists of Baker fans.  Books like GCE 12 or SS 4 and 6 get significant interest from GGA collectors who may or may not be interested in other Baker books. 

CL 25 also has limited GGA appeal, but is so iconic that I think it may draw some interest from outside the Baker core.  I think we've talked about what would happen if a CL 25 and a GCE 12 both in, say, 9.2 were to appear in the same auction.  I would be chasing the CL 25 to just this side of insanity, but I think the GCE 12 would probably sell for more -- maybe much more.  

Edited June 1, 2018 by Sqeggs
Typo

[Ricksneatstuff]

3 minutes ago, Sqeggs said:

Four tiers?  You're probably right, but I'd love to have examples from each tier.

I've thought for a while (and we may even have discussed the point in this thread) that there's a pretty clear division between Bakers that have a strong GGA component (hello, GCE 12!) and those that don't.  TAR 42 might be in the latter category.  It's a very tough book, but it's GGA appeal is limited, so the market for it pretty much consists of Baker fans.  Books like GCE 12 or SS 4 and 6 get significant interest from GGA collectors who may or may not be interested in other Baker books. 

CL 25 also has limited GGA appeal, but is so iconic that I think it may draw some interest from outside the Baker core.  I think we've talked about who what would happen if a CL 25 and a GCE 12 both in, say, 9.2 were to appear in the same auction.  I would be chasing the CL 25 to just this side of insanity, but I think the GCE 12 would probably sell for more -- maybe much more.  

I believe the GCE 12 in 9.2 would Sell for more BUT I believe the current highest graded CL 25 would Sell for more than the highest GCE 12. 

It would be more of a unicorn to see a 9.2 Giant and that is part of why I agree it would sell for more.  

[Sqeggs]

4 minutes ago, Ricksneatstuff said:

I believe the GCE 12 in 9.2 would Sell for more BUT I believe the current highest graded CL 25 would Sell for more than the highest GCE 12. 

It would be more of a unicorn to see a 9.2 Giant and that is part of why I agree it would sell for more.  

Interesting.  Do you think that if both were in, say, 7.0, the CL 25 would sell for more?

I'm inclined to think the GCE 12 would win because of its cross-over appeal to GGA collectors. 

[Ricksneatstuff]

7 minutes ago, Sqeggs said:

Interesting.  Do you think that if both were in, say, 7.0, the CL 25 would sell for more?

I'm inclined to think the GCE 12 would win because of its cross-over appeal to GGA collectors. 

I think the people who have these should put them up so we can find out 

[Ryan.]

What tier would It Rhymes with Lust fall in?