PROBATION DISCUSSIONS 21 21

[DavidTheDavid]

I want to make my opinion known, but I don't know my opinion. Regardless, it's invaluable.

[N/A]

[N/A]

You should actually just remove yourself. You requested it and since you nominated yourself you can remove yourself.

 

 

Agreed, I hereby state that SolarCadet is removed from the PL!!

 

Oh wait, cant anyone do it or only special people?

 

Anyone can update it. I am considering adding Ocean.

[Dr. Balls]

Hello guys! I'm writing this post because I had a problem with an user named sslim66

 

We had two transactions. I was the buyer, he was the seller.

 

The first one included 3 books for $380 + shipping. I asked for a priority mail international with insurance shipping to Europe. He agreed and told me shipping cost $50, then I paid and he sent the books.

 

However, he did not sent the books via Priority and did not put insurance. He also declared a $45 value. Luckily I got the package and everything was fine but one thing: the shipping cost $26 instead of $50. Also, the box he sent me was a box he had received from another guy, so he didn't have to pay for buying it. When I was about to ask him for a refund he told me he had lost his job, so if I wanted to purchase some more books I'd have been welcome.

 

 

I purchased a few other books from him because I thought he needed money and asked again for a priority shipping. I didn't want to pay $50 and be fooled again, so I told him the shipping with priority should have cost around $39 because I got some other books shipped via Priority for $39. He said it was ok, so I paid and he shipped a few days later. He said he shipped first class for $35, and at that moment I got a little bit angry, since it was the second time he didn't ship with the method I told him to ship. I asked for a $4 refund, but he said it was for gas + box. Then I told him that he made me pay $50 instead of $26 for the first transaction's shipping, but he just ignored me and left the conversation.

I haven't received the last package yet.

 

I'm asking for a $24 refund for the first transaction + some dollars refunding the difference between the cost of the last transaction's shipping and what I paid, which is surely at least 4$, since I paid $39 and he said the shipping cost $35.

I asked for the posts receipt of the last shipping, but he hasn't answered yet.

 

Here is some pics which prove that I'm saying the truth:

 

First transaction:

 

http://postimg.org/image/4lxko4cnp/

http://postimg.org/image/4bq24ry1h/

http://postimg.org/image/t7jhs9kph/ ( Removed a part of his address and his surname)

http://postimg.org/image/omxbdc105/ ( In this one he says he had lost his job... Which is hard to believe because he's still buying comics)

 

Second transaction:

 

http://postimg.org/image/ucdjxn76d/

http://postimg.org/image/4uv5e1pg5/

http://postimg.org/image/hnj9dz11x/

 

 

I wrote a post on his kudos thread saying he had fooled me. He wrote some bad posts as well on my kudos thread and his one, which I answered to. Then we started talking privately and he also started insulting me: http://postimg.org/image/ox4twofmd/

 

Then I told Architecht about what happened and he suggested me to write on this thread and deleted my and slim66's kudos threads.

 

I'd like to get my money back, but if this won't be possible at least I have told the board what he's done and maybe you can do something for stopping him fooling and insulting people again.

 

 

+1

 

Let's move onto this one...

[HarveySwick]

ZombieDealer - did you PM sslim66 with a link to this discussion?

[N/A]

He has yet to receive the second box. He got the 1st box.

[Domo Arigato]

You should actually just remove yourself. You requested it and since you nominated yourself you can remove yourself.

 

 

Agreed, I hereby state that SolarCadet is removed from the PL!!

 

Oh wait, cant anyone do it or only special people?

 

Anyone can update it. I am considering adding Ocean.

You should start a poll.

[CAHokie]

If it is this easy to go on and off the list with no accountability I think it is pretty useless.

 

Why did I even bother to try and work things out with the two members if it can be unilaterally decided like that?

[zuckuss2003]

Agreed, while oceanavekid could have been a bit more direct, I just don't see this particular case against him being PL worthy.

 

Then where is the line where we hold a seller responsible for completing a sale

 

Sorry was at work. My reply to this is certainly not after he tells the potential buyer he is not going to sell it to him.

[N/A]

If it is this easy to go on and off the list with no accountability I think it is pretty useless.

 

Why did I even bother to try and work things out with the two members if it can be unilaterally decided like that?

 

Post count.

 

The sooner you believe it the better off you will be.

[Tony Edwards]

Folks can we step away for a second and have a larger conversation. I could care less whether Ocean is added or not added to the PL. What I DO care about are rules and order. So I just took my lunch break (had a blue cheese burger and fries, it was delicious if anyone cares) and read through that entire week's postings in Probation(05/02/2014) (ugh my brain hates me right now) Jawn posted a nomination on 5/2. There was dozens of discussions mostly with baba and Branget over whether or not it should be added, HOWEVER a nomination WAS made. Per the rules, there is no need to discuss the validity of the nomination UNLESS (per rule Rule 3B) the nominee responds. At that time whether the aspects of the transaction are lacking can be discussed. In other words, Branget and Baba's discussion was Dicta. At no time during the 72 hour waiting period did Ocean make ANY statement. As per Rule 3(a) he was added to the PL. As to his removal, under rule 3© ocean is free to later make a statement if he was unavailable. As such his statement was/is that the thread was closed and he was moving the books to eBay. Ok, fine. Taking his statement at face value, he should now be removed from the PL and I am going to do just that, however his original addition was (and is) still valid under board rules. as I read them.

 

You may now feel free to flame away on me.

 

Hilarious. I've mostly lurked during my time on here, and never seen a group of relative newbies come so close to getting the sales section locked as you lot. Brilliant.

[N/A]

Agreed, while oceanavekid could have been a bit more direct, I just don't see this particular case against him being PL worthy.

 

Then where is the line where we hold a seller responsible for completing a sale

 

Sorry was at work. My reply to this is certainly not after he tells the potential buyer he is not going to sell it to him.

 

Agreed. Now if only the seller had said that.

[N/A]

You should actually just remove yourself. You requested it and since you nominated yourself you can remove yourself.

 

 

Agreed, I hereby state that SolarCadet is removed from the PL!!

 

Oh wait, cant anyone do it or only special people?

 

Anyone can update it. I am considering adding Ocean.

You should start a poll.

 

I don't know how.

[CAHokie]

Agreed, while oceanavekid could have been a bit more direct, I just don't see this particular case against him being PL worthy.

 

Then where is the line where we hold a seller responsible for completing a sale

 

Sorry was at work. My reply to this is certainly not after he tells the potential buyer he is not going to sell it to him.

 

Agreed. Now if only the seller had said that.

 

[zuckuss2003]

Agreed, while oceanavekid could have been a bit more direct, I just don't see this particular case against him being PL worthy.

 

Then where is the line where we hold a seller responsible for completing a sale

 

Sorry was at work. My reply to this is certainly not after he tells the potential buyer he is not going to sell it to him.

 

Agreed. Now if only the seller had said that.

 

Okay, fine, we can disagree but to me what he said was close enough to an "I'm keeping the book".

[Iceman399]

Agreed, while oceanavekid could have been a bit more direct, I just don't see this particular case against him being PL worthy.

 

Then where is the line where we hold a seller responsible for completing a sale

 

Sorry was at work. My reply to this is certainly not after he tells the potential buyer he is not going to sell it to him.

 

Agreed. Now if only the seller had said that.

 

Okay, fine, we can disagree but to me what he said was close enough to an "I'm keeping the book".

 

"keeping the book cause I want to make more money than what I offered it to you initially for"

[N/A]

Agreed, while oceanavekid could have been a bit more direct, I just don't see this particular case against him being PL worthy.

 

Then where is the line where we hold a seller responsible for completing a sale

 

Sorry was at work. My reply to this is certainly not after he tells the potential buyer he is not going to sell it to him.

 

Agreed. Now if only the seller had said that.

 

Okay, fine, we can disagree but to me what he said was close enough to an "I'm keeping the book".

 

I think I'm going to agree with you.

[comicdonna]

Wow....I leave for an hour and come back to this?? Dang...

 

I talked to Arch and as expected they will not be doing any custom coding to lock sales threads. We already assumed that, but now we know for sure. It was also expressed that any rules regarding threads being closed after a set time is up to the community to decide.

 

This is stuff we already assumed, so I guess there is no need to keep beating the horse. To avoid this stuff sellers should try to close threads and buyers should take the time to pm a seller if it appears they have an inactive thread. Not much else we can do.

Thanks for trying.

[N/A]

Hello guys! I'm writing this post because I had a problem with an user named sslim66

 

We had two transactions. I was the buyer, he was the seller.

 

The first one included 3 books for $380 + shipping. I asked for a priority mail international with insurance shipping to Europe. He agreed and told me shipping cost $50, then I paid and he sent the books.

 

However, he did not sent the books via Priority and did not put insurance. He also declared a $45 value. Luckily I got the package and everything was fine but one thing: the shipping cost $26 instead of $50. Also, the box he sent me was a box he had received from another guy, so he didn't have to pay for buying it. When I was about to ask him for a refund he told me he had lost his job, so if I wanted to purchase some more books I'd have been welcome.

 

 

I purchased a few other books from him because I thought he needed money and asked again for a priority shipping. I didn't want to pay $50 and be fooled again, so I told him the shipping with priority should have cost around $39 because I got some other books shipped via Priority for $39. He said it was ok, so I paid and he shipped a few days later. He said he shipped first class for $35, and at that moment I got a little bit angry, since it was the second time he didn't ship with the method I told him to ship. I asked for a $4 refund, but he said it was for gas + box. Then I told him that he made me pay $50 instead of $26 for the first transaction's shipping, but he just ignored me and left the conversation.

I haven't received the last package yet.

 

I'm asking for a $24 refund for the first transaction + some dollars refunding the difference between the cost of the last transaction's shipping and what I paid, which is surely at least 4$, since I paid $39 and he said the shipping cost $35.

I asked for the posts receipt of the last shipping, but he hasn't answered yet.

 

Here is some pics which prove that I'm saying the truth:

 

First transaction:

 

http://postimg.org/image/4lxko4cnp/

http://postimg.org/image/4bq24ry1h/

http://postimg.org/image/t7jhs9kph/ ( Removed a part of his address and his surname)

http://postimg.org/image/omxbdc105/ ( In this one he says he had lost his job... Which is hard to believe because he's still buying comics)

 

Second transaction:

 

http://postimg.org/image/ucdjxn76d/

http://postimg.org/image/4uv5e1pg5/

http://postimg.org/image/hnj9dz11x/

 

 

I wrote a post on his kudos thread saying he had fooled me. He wrote some bad posts as well on my kudos thread and his one, which I answered to. Then we started talking privately and he also started insulting me: http://postimg.org/image/ox4twofmd/

 

Then I told Architecht about what happened and he suggested me to write on this thread and deleted my and slim66's kudos threads.

 

I'd like to get my money back, but if this won't be possible at least I have told the board what he's done and maybe you can do something for stopping him fooling and insulting people again.

 

 

+1

 

Let's move onto this one...

[Ryan.]

The issue isn't really about the ease with which someone falls off the PL but whether or not he should have been on it in the first place.