PROBATION DISCUSSIONS 21 21

[chriswALKEN]

Thank you very much Mike and Jason I appreciate you both taking the time to post in here on my behalf.

 

 

I also believe now that that fulfills the means to be removed from the probation list. There was actually only one nomination, as Jason was the only one that nominated me. I asked Mike and he said he was just commenting on my behavior and not nominating me. There were only two other commentators, one was fastball and I reached out to him back in June, and another was made by a member that insinuated unfairly that my behavior was due to a marijuana addiction.

[HighRadArt]

Thank you very much Mike and Jason I appreciate you both taking the time to post in here on my behalf.

 

 

I also believe now that that fulfills the means to be removed from the probation list. There was actually only one nomination, as Jason was the only one that nominated me. I asked Mike and he said he was just commenting on my behavior and not nominating me. There were only two other commentators, one was fastball and I reached out to him back in June, and another was made by a member that insinuated unfairly that my behavior was due to a marijuana addiction.

 

If you lived here (Washington) or in Colorado (I'm sure there's other States) - this would be a non issue.

[Dr. Balls]

Thank you very much Mike and Jason I appreciate you both taking the time to post in here on my behalf.

 

 

I also believe now that that fulfills the means to be removed from the probation list. There was actually only one nomination, as Jason was the only one that nominated me. I asked Mike and he said he was just commenting on my behavior and not nominating me. There were only two other commentators, one was fastball and I reached out to him back in June, and another was made by a member that insinuated unfairly that my behavior was due to a marijuana addiction.

 

Here's what I wrote last month:

 

FBS nominated chrisWALKEN back in the middle of June, did anything come of that?

 

Then FBS said:

 

FBS nominated chrisWALKEN back in the middle of June, did anything come of that?

 

No because this thread has turned into a coffee klatch.

 

I haven't heard anything from him since. I just checked back today and still nothing. He seemed sincere, but I detailed all the information earlier. Its not a huge amount of money just want to make sure he doesn't tie someone else up that does need it.

 

And then I came back and wrote:

 

FWIW, and I'm sure it will get lost in all the Symbi drama, chriswALKEN was put on the PL on 7/7, and I'm still waiting for a package from him (which I assume I will never see).

 

It was only $10 and I sent it to him via PP personal, so I'll chalk it up as a loss, but just wanted to put in on record.

 

I think FBS is the one who nominated, I was just putting my transaction on the record. All-in-all, I think no one really felt burned (I didn't) and this was a pretty easy thing to rectify. I recall Chris being a decent, positive member of the boards for a few years now, I think it's safe to say that this is a pretty minor PL thing, and hopefully it can get put in the past.

[jaybuck43]

Thanks Balls

The nominator was indeed FBS ( http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=7775019#Post7775019 ) Dr. Balls just added on. So was FastBallSpecial made whole/is he willing to move for removal from the PL?

[chriswALKEN]

Sorry about that Jason, and I greatly appreciate the kind words. I've had many good years here on the forum and one bad year, and on my part I would like to say that things have changed. We are victims of our own actions and I do not plan on ever screwing up like I have this past year when it comes to selling and or buying here on the forum. As for FBS I did send a message back on " #5254721 - 06/14/14 09:30 PM" but I never heard back. I understand his frustration but I offered to make things right between us.

[chriswALKEN]

Thank you very much Mike and Jason I appreciate you both taking the time to post in here on my behalf.

 

 

I also believe now that that fulfills the means to be removed from the probation list. There was actually only one nomination, as Jason was the only one that nominated me. I asked Mike and he said he was just commenting on my behavior and not nominating me. There were only two other commentators, one was fastball and I reached out to him back in June, and another was made by a member that insinuated unfairly that my behavior was due to a marijuana addiction.

 

If you lived here (Washington) or in Colorado (I'm sure there's other States) - this would be a non issue.

 

I only brought the pot addiction up and stated it as unfair because it was pure assumption, I've never stated here or anywhere on the forum that I was/am/or had been smoking pot. Other stuff he stated was true, such as me being incredibly slow and another comment but my actions had nothing to do with smoking.

[kav]

I am nominating Symbiotic to the Hall of Shame. He has exhibited several signs of being a scammer and a complete fraud on multiple occasions. His modus operandi of choice appears to do something fraudulent or deceptive, be discovered and apologize and claim he needs a period of reflection to help himself. Rinse, repeat.

 

Symbiotic first backed out of a sale from one member of the Boards claiming he has fallen upon hard times and wouldn't be able to complete a transaction where he had bought a book. However, it was discovered that Symbiotic was, at the same time, buying a more expensive book from another seller on the Boards.

 

On another occasion, Symbiotic had listed a book for sale. Upon a potential buyer taking the book, Symbiotic informed the buyer that the price has now doubled and would not honor the sales thread listed price.

 

Symbiotic was later discovered as to have been shilling his auctions on 11/13/13. He admitted I obviously knew shilling was not a morally ok practice and used his standard defense of I messed up real bad here, I see that now and I understand. If you want to prob me, ban me, or never deal with me again I also understand. for the first time. This led to several threads such as I shill my own auctions but you can't hate cause I admit it and his eventual response thread: The Shiller Speaks where once again he tries to garner pity by admitting his faults and falsely stating that he hopes to change and loves this community. When this thread happened, he also changed his name to "Future" and then changed it back to Symbiotic when he realized yes the name change back to symbiotic is due to the fact that i'm not trying to hide anything at this point and vowed to take some time away from selling because these Boards meant more to him for the community aspect more than the monetary aspect. This time away from selling lasted less than two weeks where once again he tried to elicit sympathy and admitting all of his wrong doings and said he wasn't going to sell here every again I won't be doing any sales threads EVER again, and that's not hyperbole. Ban me on sight if I do so. This time his "I'll never sell here again" lasted closed to two months.

 

On April 18, 2014, he was nominated for the PL by Wolfpack06 who had purchased a Manifest Destiny #1 off of Symbiotic around the time the book got hot. Instead of sending the book to Wolfpack06, Symbiotic submitted it to CGC "by mistake". He PMed Wolfpack06 and informed him of this and asked Wolfpack if he still wanted the book. Wolfpack06 replied via PM that he did still want the book. This was read and ignored by Symbiotic who instead listed the book on eBay for a higher price and sold the book and refunded the original purchase price back to Wolfpack06. He pulled the customary: I'm stepping away from the board and selling for the foreseeable future.

 

Again, he tried to change his name to "whouffle". It was also discovered less than a week later that he was still shilling his eBay auctions. Once AGAIN, he stated he wasn't going to sell on the forums anymore. I'm not looking to sell on the forums anymore, as I don't think I deserve that right. its a right not a privilege to sell to this great community. For a second time, he stated that he was changing his name back to Symbiotic because he had nothing to hide. He was added to the Probation List. However. on July 8, 2014, he was right back to selling. There were several that advocated for him to be removed from the Probation List since he had refunded Wolfpack06. Later that day, Wolfpack06 confirmed the refund from Symbiotic and Symbiotic was removed from the Probation List. On July 10, 2014, Symbiotic at the urging of others due to his removal from the Probation List earlier in the week, started a new sales thread selling a Hero for Hire #1 8.5 White Pages. It was determined that this book was listed on eBay. At that time, Symbiotic admitted the book he had used in the scans was not the same book, but one he had found on eBay. His book was actually an OW/W copy. He had simply stolen images from an eBay seller and passed it off as if that was the copy for sale.

 

At this point, he has proved time and time again that he does not honor transactions, whether buying or selling, he is a twice discovered shiller and his pattern of eliciting sympathy behind cries of regret and admitting mistakes and taking time off appears to be a ploy to bury his history and reappear several months later with hopes of having many forgetting his repeated transgressions on the Boards.

 

UPDATE NO. 1: Even after apologizing, Symbiotic continues to shill his auctions AFTER this poll was started.

 

UPDATE NO. 2: Caveat Emptor

 

UPDATE NO. 3 : Caveat Emptor

 

UPDATE NO. 4 : More Shilling

 

UPDATE NO. 5 : Strikes: Attempted to make two shill accounts here.

 

wow symbo has 20 shill accts...

[Buzzetta]

Under the advisement of Buzzetta I've gone through and deleted every shill which I've ever placed. If I've missed any let me know. I've also removed all reserves, and will offer discounts to any board members wishing to make purchases.

 

http://my.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MyEbayBeta&CurrentPage=MyeBayNextAllSelling&ssPageName=STRK:ME:LNLK:MESX

 

Feel free to ignore the auctions as well, I'm not looking for hand outs. Just working on making things right as a part of my program.

 

Please do not confuse my warning with counsel.

[Bio-Rupp]

278 votes total votes in the HOS poll for Symbiotic.

 

That's almost triple the amount of votes involved in Solarcadat1 HOS poll.

 

Amazing turnout.

[Buzzetta]

278 votes total votes in the HOS poll for Symbiotic.

 

That's almost triple the amount of votes involved in Solarcadat1 HOS poll.

 

Amazing turnout.

 

I love it when we have a large turnout for a torch and pitchfork crowd.

[fastballspecial]

Sorry about that Jason, and I greatly appreciate the kind words. I've had many good years here on the forum and one bad year, and on my part I would like to say that things have changed. We are victims of our own actions and I do not plan on ever screwing up like I have this past year when it comes to selling and or buying here on the forum. As for FBS I did send a message back on " #5254721 - 06/14/14 09:30 PM" but I never heard back. I understand his frustration but I offered to make things right between us.

 

I am not sure what I need to follow up on here. You have my paypal information on the books you wanted. Its all there in your PMs.

 

I didn't think there was a need to follow up. Either pay me for the books or don't. The only reason I nominated you is so I didn't want any other sellers to get strung out over a large value book with you.

 

The sum owed to me isn't a lot, but the principal of the matter made me nominate him. Anyone who has had a large sales thread knows exactly what I am talking about.

 

 

[chriswALKEN]

I sent over a pm, as well as payment. Hopefully this takes care of my PL responsibilities

[ComicBookQuest]

Has anyone dealed with luckycomics?? I purchased 2 books back on the 4th and still haven't received my books and communication with this guy is just awful. I finally got him to send me a tracking number and it shows it was electronically created on the 17th (13 days after I paid for the books) and it still doesn't show it ever got dropped off at the post office. No movement what so ever. I wrote him on the 17th asking if he ever dropped the books off and still havent heard back yet.

 

How long before I can nominate someone for PL??

[crassus]

There is a 30 day period within which to complete a transaction. If you mean July 4 as the start date than I think it would be August 3rd as the earliest to nominate. While at that point there is a formal process, it doesn't hurt to let the seller know that you are presently discussing it in the PL forum.

[asteroid-comix]

Has anyone dealed with luckycomics?? I purchased 2 books back on the 4th and still haven't received my books and communication with this guy is just awful. I finally got him to send me a tracking number and it shows it was electronically created on the 17th (13 days after I paid for the books) and it still doesn't show it ever got dropped off at the post office. No movement what so ever. I wrote him on the 17th asking if he ever dropped the books off and still havent heard back yet.

 

How long before I can nominate someone for PL??

 

Same situation here, but he has communicated. I pm'd him on 7/16 about some books that were paid for back on 7/5 and and others that were paid for on 7/9. He messaged me on 7/16 and said he had someone that didn't pay and was trying to ship everything at once (post office was on the other side of town).

 

I didn't get tracking, but I see it on the paypal payment. Same deal, looks like they were printed but not dropped off. I figured I'd wait until the start of the week to see if they moved before I got concerned.

 

 

[carter3175]

I heard the same thing. I also have a tracking number that has not been accepted by the post office. Getting pissed about this.

[thehumantorch]

Has anyone dealed with luckycomics?? I purchased 2 books back on the 4th and still haven't received my books and communication with this guy is just awful. I finally got him to send me a tracking number and it shows it was electronically created on the 17th (13 days after I paid for the books) and it still doesn't show it ever got dropped off at the post office. No movement what so ever. I wrote him on the 17th asking if he ever dropped the books off and still havent heard back yet.

 

How long before I can nominate someone for PL??

 

I nominate we change his board name to unluckycomics

[fastballspecial]

I sent over a pm, as well as payment. Hopefully this takes care of my PL responsibilities

 

The above board member has completed payment responsibilities and should now be removed from the Probation List.

 

 

[jaybuck43]

I think that's everyone, right?

[ComicBookQuest]

Has anyone dealed with luckycomics?? I purchased 2 books back on the 4th and still haven't received my books and communication with this guy is just awful. I finally got him to send me a tracking number and it shows it was electronically created on the 17th (13 days after I paid for the books) and it still doesn't show it ever got dropped off at the post office. No movement what so ever. I wrote him on the 17th asking if he ever dropped the books off and still havent heard back yet.

 

How long before I can nominate someone for PL??

 

I nominate we change his board name to unluckycomics

 

 

I guess we are the unlucky ones ha. I mean is it too much to ask for a little communication?? I seem to be running unto this a lot lately.