Dark Knight Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I used to own that book when it was a 4.0.. Surprised it is now a 6.0 with the top and bottom spine splits. Those were the only major defects going for that book. Just stunned right now One of the best 4.0 books I've owned. that was quite a 4.0 run of pre robins you had Brian. I thought CGC had a "ceiling" grade of 5.0/5.5 on books that had such spine splits...? Yep, it was a fabulous run I pulled. I don't think I can pull it off again unless I win the lottery I really don't know what the ceiling is for spine splits. But, I know back then if the spine splits are around an inch or more at both top and bottom, I think the ceiling that time was around the 4.0/4.5 range. I guess now it has changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I used to own that book when it was a 4.0.. Surprised it is now a 6.0 with the top and bottom spine splits. Those were the only major defects going for that book. Just stunned right now One of the best 4.0 books I've owned. that was quite a 4.0 run of pre robins you had Brian. I thought CGC had a "ceiling" grade of 5.0/5.5 on books that had such spine splits...? Yep, it was a fabulous run I pulled. I don't think I can pull it off again unless I win the lottery I really don't know what the ceiling is for spine splits. But, I know back then if the spine splits are around an inch or more at both top and bottom, I think the ceiling that time was around the 4.0/4.5 range. I guess now it has changed? you could be right. I know the Central Valley Fantastic 3 is CGC 5.5 because of a 3" or so split. Otherwise, it looks 9.0ish. I know you will get your pre Robin run back (even if lower grade) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelhelmet Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Be careful , Ben. Actually the spine split on the Central Valley Fantastic 3 is 1.5", not 3". Secondly, it's a 6.0, not a 5.5. lastly, it would grade a 9.4 White, not a 9.0 if the spine split split we're not present. Also, it would grade out higher now, if regarded, seeing this Tec 31 and other Fantastic 3' s in recent memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelhelmet Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 My spelling sucks. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Someone else pointed this out to me. I'm pretty stunned. Same book right?!!! 2012 Book http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=451023 2015 Book http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=622318 from a 4 to a 6. That's some black magic right there. Spine splits be gone! 6.0 grade is a bit too generous for that book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Be careful , Ben. Actually the spine split on the Central Valley Fantastic 3 is 1.5", not 3". Secondly, it's a 6.0, not a 5.5. lastly, it would grade a 9.4 White, not a 9.0 if the spine split split we're not present. Also, it would grade out higher now, if regarded, seeing this Tec 31 and other Fantastic 3' s in recent memory. it was initially a 5.5 then a 6.0 iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine48 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Oh boy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill the Governor Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 It's absolutely the same book, looks like splits were repositioned to the back when pressed, so they aren't visible. doesn't look it from the back cover scan. They are lined up right along the spine so you can't see them in the scan - the only other explanation is that they were sealed and it wasn't caught, which I find very hard to believe. There was a case of a Det #1 that had a front cover married on. It was attached about an inch to the right of the spine, and was done so flawlessly (and without ct) that it wasn't noticed when examined by several professionals in the industry upon first glance. :shrug: This book appears to have gone under the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeanius Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Yeesh. Gotta be so careful as a buyer these days. Used to be that CGC offered this security to the buyer. Now CGC is a tool for "validating" an upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Boy Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Yeesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Be careful , Ben. Actually the spine split on the Central Valley Fantastic 3 is 1.5", not 3". Secondly, it's a 6.0, not a 5.5. lastly, it would grade a 9.4 White, not a 9.0 if the spine split split we're not present. Also, it would grade out higher now, if regarded, seeing this Tec 31 and other Fantastic 3' s in recent memory. Sean, I'm glad you know your books better than I do (thumbs u It's been awhile since I saw that F3 in hand. Would love to see/hear more about your great collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelhelmet Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I don't have much you'd be interested in, certainly nothing that would qualify for this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I don't have much you'd be interested in, certainly nothing that would qualify for this thread. doesn't have to be "this thread" material And, yes, plenty in your treasure box I'd like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 about 99.9% Sure October discovered a tec 31 scam on ebay (4.0 MP)... can anyone shed any light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 must have been pulled quick cause I don't recall seeing a listing ( the last few days ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 just popped up 15 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I emailed the seller, who (apparently) had no idea something had been listed under their account. They had it pulled. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Detective-Comics-31-Sep-1939-DC-/131551424930?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1ea11371a2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I emailed the seller, who (apparently) had no idea something had been listed under their account. They had it pulled. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Detective-Comics-31-Sep-1939-DC-/131551424930?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1ea11371a2 Do you know the seller or the owner of the tec ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I emailed the seller, who (apparently) had no idea something had been listed under their account. They had it pulled. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Detective-Comics-31-Sep-1939-DC-/131551424930?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1ea11371a2 strange...if the account was hacked, would have thought the email would have gone to the hacker, not the acct owner?... in any event, October sniffed this out as a scam...thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I emailed the seller, who (apparently) had no idea something had been listed under their account. They had it pulled. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Detective-Comics-31-Sep-1939-DC-/131551424930?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1ea11371a2 Do you know the seller or the owner of the tec ? Nope. Curious where the pics of the book came from though. No sales listed in GPA for a Mod P copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...