Wayne-Tec Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 I thought that the Cage copy was around an 8.0 as well... I was just thinking because of the timing of the Cage copy's recent discovery and the fact (if I'm not mistaken, though I very well might be) that it wasn't stored in a temperature-controlled climate...that this might be the same book. It certainly presents VERY well for a 4.5 with extremely vibrant color inks. Either way, it's certainly one incredible book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1962 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I don't think it is the Cage copy either, although if the book has been sitting in an unconditioned storage locker in the San Fernando Valley for the last 10 years and was damaged by the thief when he stole it or subsequently after that, it is not too much of a stretch to make the connection especially considering the timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I'm guessing this is the Cage copy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 From the link below: http://www.vcstar.com/photos/2011/apr/10/124397/ Looks like the Cage copy is a bit more miscut and less wear. The new ComicConnect is amazing even with a lt PQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1962 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Considering the type of edge defects this copy has and the lower page quality it has now, it not to much of a stretch to see this originally as a VF copy pre CGC, that has now been unfortunately reduced to a CGC 4.5 considering the possible storage conditions in the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytiger Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 From the link below: http://www.vcstar.com/photos/2011/apr/10/124397/ Looks like the Cage copy is a bit more miscut and less wear. The new ComicConnect is amazing even with a lt PQ. The book in the article is the 8.0 Kansas copy. So that is not Cage's copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 From the link below: http://www.vcstar.com/photos/2011/apr/10/124397/ Looks like the Cage copy is a bit more miscut and less wear. The new ComicConnect is amazing even with a lt PQ. The book in the article is the 8.0 Kansas copy. So that is not Cage's copy. Yep...good eye Tiger. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Considering the type of edge defects this copy has and the lower page quality it has now, it not to much of a stretch to see this originally as a VF copy pre CGC, that has now been unfortunately reduced to a CGC 4.5 considering the possible storage conditions in the last 10 years. The article linked to in General Comics Forum quotes Fishler as saying the Cage copy was still in the original VF condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1962 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Considering the type of edge defects this copy has and the lower page quality it has now, it not to much of a stretch to see this originally as a VF copy pre CGC, that has now been unfortunately reduced to a CGC 4.5 considering the possible storage conditions in the last 10 years. The article linked to in General Comics Forum quotes Fishler as saying the Cage copy was still in the original VF condition. IMO there is no way the book is in the same condition now, compared to the same day it was stolen from Cage unless pigs are now flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markseifert Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) Here's the small, cropped scan from the LAPD stolen art archive which some believe to be the Cage copy: Edited April 15, 2011 by markseifert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 From the link below: http://www.vcstar.com/photos/2011/apr/10/124397/ Looks like the Cage copy is a bit more miscut and less wear. The new ComicConnect is amazing even with a lt PQ. I believe that's a small scan of the Kansas City copy, not the actual Cage copy. Since it was mention as a VF...at first glance. I would assume so by the image. Anyone has the actual image of the Cage copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markseifert Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Anyone has the actual image of the Cage copy? Yeah, see above. When I saw that had already been mentioned, I edited my post to show the LAPD database copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Anyone has the actual image of the Cage copy? Yeah, see above. When I saw that had already been mentioned, I edited my post to show the LAPD database copy. I see that in the your general thread. (thumbs u I wonder what it might actually look like now and if there is a larger scan of that copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markseifert Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I see that in the your general thread. (thumbs u I wonder what it might actually look like now and if there is a larger scan of that copy. Yeah, I'd love to see. There's going to be a damn good story come out of this once the police investigation is said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 it not to much of a stretch to see this originally as a VF copy pre CGC A further little stretch and you could imagine it a NM on the newsstand in '38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne-Tec Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 I checked back to my "Wayne-Tec" database and came up with some pretty interesting information. As of tonight (4/15/11), the CGC census only displays one copy of Action Comics #1 graded at a Universal 4.5, which led me to believe that Metro's copy is either a fresh submission or a re-holdered book. Come to find out, the copy on the census is not the same copy that Metro currently has on their website. And if the recently re-discovered Cage copy is said to be in VF condition, I don't think that Metro's 4.5 is the same book (obviously). However...Nicolas Cage did own a Universal 4.5 copy of Action Comics #1. (Left: Current Metro copy, Right: noted to be "FROM THE COLLECTION OF NICOLAS CAGE). So, what do we have? Clearly the two 4.5 copies are not the same book; which would have to make Metro's 4.5 a fresh CGC submission (unless a higher-graded book could have been bumped down to a 4.5 through re-holdering; which I don't suspect to be the case). And if the recently re-discovered Cage copy is in VF condition, it couldn't possibly be the same copy posted above to the right. Does this mean that Cage owned multiple Action Comics #1's? Regardless, this new 4.5 looks to be an amazing book. When the census is updated to include this new 4.5, there will be only 11 Universal copies in the world ever graded a 4.5 or higher by CGC. That's elite company, making Metro's 4.5 Action Comics #1 a monumental discovery within the grand scheme of things...considering the demand for Action #1's and how incredibly rare it is to see slabbed unrestored copies in this nice of shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qualitycomix Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 This is the wrong thread I know, but I also noticed they have a tec 27 5.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne-Tec Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 This is the wrong thread I know, but I also noticed they have a tec 27 5.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1962 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 it not to much of a stretch to see this originally as a VF copy pre CGC A further little stretch and you could imagine it a NM on the newsstand in '38. Actually that was my original thought, but I didn't post it because it was too obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacentaur Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 This is the wrong thread I know, but I also noticed they have a tec 27 5.5. Just wait to for the right opportunity to come along to hype Fantastic Comics 3 to a frenzy point, and let's see how many of their 27 copies come to market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
