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[MrWeen]

I was bagging some books from 1998-2002 the other night, and I came across Avengers #19, with a creepy red Ultron cover. It is actually part 1 of a storyline called "Age of Ultron." It centers around Black Panther, Wakanda and Ultron, although it does have extraneous characters like the synthezoid that is based on Bobbi Morse's brain waves. But as more details come out about the plot, this may heat up.

 

Back on topic!

 

This was one of my favorite Avengers stories from the second series.

 

I actually think 22 has the better cover. It was also called Ultron Unlimited, not age of Ultron, if im not mistaken.

 

I do think you are right with Black Panther being a large part of this 4 issue Ultron Story, they could be taking much of the movie ideas from this arc, which could mean heat.

 

 

love this cover

[Aweandlorder]

Is EOSV2 3rd print heating up?

 

This guy seems to think so

[the authority]

[Shark]

Geeeeze that is an awesome cover. Combined with a fact that it's a #4? =Pure win $$$$.

 

Is it better or worse than what is being posted?

 

 

DC overprinted

There's still 1,500+ copies in the Diamond system.

 

Cool AH! cover.

I bit.

Bought an extra 50 to rack w Finch's WW tomorrow.

 

My LCS had plenty of them today so I grabbed 10 copies. Ebay here we come!

[the420kid]

Is EOSV2 3rd print heating up?

 

This guy seems to think so

where did Spider-woman acquire such strange footwear? Super-hero slippers?

[seanfingh]

I was bagging some books from 1998-2002 the other night, and I came across Avengers #19, with a creepy red Ultron cover. It is actually part 1 of a storyline called "Age of Ultron." It centers around Black Panther, Wakanda and Ultron, although it does have extraneous characters like the synthezoid that is based on Bobbi Morse's brain waves. But as more details come out about the plot, this may heat up.

 

I love this run from Busiek/Perez. The story line is "Ultron Unlimited" and not AofU.

 

I think that #19 cover would make for a great SS book (both creators and celebs.)

 

Sorry about whiffing on the storyline name!

[jjeanius]

Is EOSV2 3rd print heating up?

 

This guy seems to think so

 

That auction is for a lot of 10 copies. And...there is at least one recorded sale (from your link) of $20+

[the authority]

AH Sensation #4 cheap

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271675945235?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[Pirate]

I was bagging some books from 1998-2002 the other night, and I came across Avengers #19, with a creepy red Ultron cover. It is actually part 1 of a storyline called "Age of Ultron." It centers around Black Panther, Wakanda and Ultron, although it does have extraneous characters like the synthezoid that is based on Bobbi Morse's brain waves. But as more details come out about the plot, this may heat up.

 

I love this run from Busiek/Perez. The story line is "Ultron Unlimited" and not AofU.

 

I think that #19 cover would make for a great SS book (both creators and celebs.)

 

Sorry about whiffing on the storyline name!

 

Even the best whiff once in a while

[whetteon]

Phew, I can smell that whiff over here.

 

 

 

[GeeksAreMyPeeps]

Geeeeze that is an awesome cover. Combined with a fact that it's a #4? =Pure win $$$$.

 

Is it better or worse than what is being posted?

 

 

DC overprinted

There's still 1,500+ copies in the Diamond system.

 

Cool AH! cover.

I bit.

Bought an extra 50 to rack w Finch's WW tomorrow.

 

My LCS had plenty of them today so I grabbed 10 copies. Ebay here we come!

Why does she have a hoof?

[Junkdrawer]

Geeeeze that is an awesome cover. Combined with a fact that it's a #4? =Pure win $$$$.

 

Is it better or worse than what is being posted?

 

 

DC overprinted

There's still 1,500+ copies in the Diamond system.

 

Cool AH! cover.

I bit.

Bought an extra 50 to rack w Finch's WW tomorrow.

 

My LCS had plenty of them today so I grabbed 10 copies. Ebay here we come!

Why does she have a hoof?

They could be Uggz

 

[Flatliner1313]

Geeeeze that is an awesome cover. Combined with a fact that it's a #4? =Pure win $$$$.

 

Is it better or worse than what is being posted?

 

 

DC overprinted

There's still 1,500+ copies in the Diamond system.

 

Cool AH! cover.

I bit.

Bought an extra 50 to rack w Finch's WW tomorrow.

 

My LCS had plenty of them today so I grabbed 10 copies. Ebay here we come!

Why does she have a hoof?

They could be Uggz

 

It's something you see in a lot of AH! Wonder Woman covers, the baggy looking boots. I think he explained why in his Cover Run book. I'll have to dig it out and have a look.

 

[snowman28]

I was bagging some books from 1998-2002 the other night, and I came across Avengers #19, with a creepy red Ultron cover. It is actually part 1 of a storyline called "Age of Ultron." It centers around Black Panther, Wakanda and Ultron, although it does have extraneous characters like the synthezoid that is based on Bobbi Morse's brain waves. But as more details come out about the plot, this may heat up.

 

Back on topic!

 

This was one of my favorite Avengers stories from the second series.

 

I actually think 22 has the better cover. It was also called Ultron Unlimited, not age of Ultron, if im not mistaken.

 

I do think you are right with Black Panther being a large part of this 4 issue Ultron Story, they could be taking much of the movie ideas from this arc, which could mean heat.

 

 

 

 

love this cover

+1

[GeeksAreMyPeeps]

I'm a bit confused with the reaction to the Spider-Woman Manara variant. Were collectors thinking this was going to be a virgin cover (no logo)? If not, then where else could Marvel put the logo? Her body pretty much covers (vertically) the entire cover.

 

Sorry for any ignorance on my part or if this was previously answered.

 

Meck

 

 

I think people expected marvel to accommodate the artwork properly.

 

Marvel has been very liberal with where they put the title logo recently, either having the artwork go " over" the title, or making the logo smaller, or shifting it to one side, even at the bottom at times. In some cases making the artwork slightly smaller so its shown fully. It's not like it use to be where the logo stayed in the exact same spot for years on end.

 

They made no attempts to accommodate the art. All they had to do was shrink the image by 10% shift the title up and to the right, like they did on the Oyum variant and you would get most of the art. The could have also shrinked the art 10% and just threw the title to the bottom, they have done this before. They did none of this and planted the title right on top of the " controversy".

 

Looking at the milo variant, it's pretty darn obvious they were trying to cover up her rear. Its so obvious its laughable. I imagine the person in charge of the overlays just floating the title around saying things like " oops, too much crack, a little to the left"

 

Suggesting that it could be shrunk 10% assumes that the piece was not created with the final dimensions of a comic book in mind. If you shrink it, then the art doesn't reach the trim

 

This is the digital age. They could have made it happen, that's all im saying.

I'm glad you're not one of my clients. The computer is not a magic box. You can only work with what you have to work with. It's highly unlikely that the artwork was created with a significant amount of bleed, so shrinking it down 10% would leave a gap at the edges. So unless Marvel is going to invest the time to extend the image digitally so fanboys can ogle Spider-woman's , this is not a realistic course of action.

[Silverdream]

I'm a bit confused with the reaction to the Spider-Woman Manara variant. Were collectors thinking this was going to be a virgin cover (no logo)? If not, then where else could Marvel put the logo? Her body pretty much covers (vertically) the entire cover.

 

Sorry for any ignorance on my part or if this was previously answered.

 

Meck

 

 

I think people expected marvel to accommodate the artwork properly.

 

Marvel has been very liberal with where they put the title logo recently, either having the artwork go " over" the title, or making the logo smaller, or shifting it to one side, even at the bottom at times. In some cases making the artwork slightly smaller so its shown fully. It's not like it use to be where the logo stayed in the exact same spot for years on end.

 

They made no attempts to accommodate the art. All they had to do was shrink the image by 10% shift the title up and to the right, like they did on the Oyum variant and you would get most of the art. The could have also shrinked the art 10% and just threw the title to the bottom, they have done this before. They did none of this and planted the title right on top of the " controversy".

 

Looking at the milo variant, it's pretty darn obvious they were trying to cover up her rear. Its so obvious its laughable. I imagine the person in charge of the overlays just floating the title around saying things like " oops, too much crack, a little to the left"

 

Suggesting that it could be shrunk 10% assumes that the piece was not created with the final dimensions of a comic book in mind. If you shrink it, then the art doesn't reach the trim

 

This is the digital age. They could have made it happen, that's all im saying.

I'm glad you're not one of my clients. The computer is not a magic box. You can only work with what you have to work with. It's highly unlikely that the artwork was created with a significant amount of bleed, so shrinking it down 10% would leave a gap at the edges. So unless Marvel is going to invest the time to extend the image digitally so fanboys can ogle Spider-woman's , this is not a realistic course of action.

 

I cannot speak to what you are saying because I am not an expert. If you are an expert, kudos to you and I stand corrected. I have seen all sorts of layouts on covers, so I was assuming they have a lot of control over the process regardless of artwork size. I guess they are just investing time into some covers? To be clear, I think they should work on all images to accommodate the artwork, Not for any particular reason for any one cover, like you wisecracked about, but for all cover art. I think its insulting to the artist what they did here, as I would if they covered up any artwork like this. It's sloppy, and lame.

 

That still does not take away that they intentionally placed the logo to cover it up. They can do whatever they like with the logo's, I have provided proof for that already.

[Revol]

I'm a bit confused with the reaction to the Spider-Woman Manara variant. Were collectors thinking this was going to be a virgin cover (no logo)? If not, then where else could Marvel put the logo? Her body pretty much covers (vertically) the entire cover.

 

Sorry for any ignorance on my part or if this was previously answered.

 

Meck

 

 

I think people expected marvel to accommodate the artwork properly.

 

Marvel has been very liberal with where they put the title logo recently, either having the artwork go " over" the title, or making the logo smaller, or shifting it to one side, even at the bottom at times. In some cases making the artwork slightly smaller so its shown fully. It's not like it use to be where the logo stayed in the exact same spot for years on end.

 

They made no attempts to accommodate the art. All they had to do was shrink the image by 10% shift the title up and to the right, like they did on the Oyum variant and you would get most of the art. The could have also shrinked the art 10% and just threw the title to the bottom, they have done this before. They did none of this and planted the title right on top of the " controversy".

 

Looking at the milo variant, it's pretty darn obvious they were trying to cover up her rear. Its so obvious its laughable. I imagine the person in charge of the overlays just floating the title around saying things like " oops, too much crack, a little to the left"

 

Suggesting that it could be shrunk 10% assumes that the piece was not created with the final dimensions of a comic book in mind. If you shrink it, then the art doesn't reach the trim

 

This is the digital age. They could have made it happen, that's all im saying.

I'm glad you're not one of my clients. The computer is not a magic box. You can only work with what you have to work with. It's highly unlikely that the artwork was created with a significant amount of bleed, so shrinking it down 10% would leave a gap at the edges. So unless Marvel is going to invest the time to extend the image digitally so fanboys can ogle Spider-woman's , this is not a realistic course of action.

 

I cannot speak to what you are saying because I am not an expert. If you are an expert, kudos to you and I stand corrected. I have seen all sorts of layouts on covers, so I was assuming they have a lot of control over the process regardless of artwork size. I guess they are just investing time into some covers? To be clear, I think they should work on all images to accommodate the artwork, Not for any particular reason for any one cover, like you wisecracked about, but for all cover art. I think its insulting to the artist what they did here, as I would if they covered up any artwork like this. It's sloppy, and lame.

 

That still does not take away that they intentionally placed the logo to cover it up. They can do whatever they like with the logo's, I have provided proof for that already.

 

It's highly likely Marvel would have provided Manara with a Photoshop file of the cover layout, with shows the placement of the logo, barcode box etc. Manara used watercolours for this piece, so from the outset that's not a digital layered file that can be broken up and moved around easily without repainting. Even using the clone tool in photoshop isn't an easy fix due to the textures. Manaras scanned artwork would then be placed within that Photoshop template.

 

That's why I said in a post above, that that placement of the logo could always have been the intention, yet Manara decided to go for the cheeks spread bum pose because he knew he could get away with it because it would be covered by the logo anyway. But Marvel released the raw image, and thats when the story took off.

Edited November 20, 2014 by Revol

[Silverdream]

I'm a bit confused with the reaction to the Spider-Woman Manara variant. Were collectors thinking this was going to be a virgin cover (no logo)? If not, then where else could Marvel put the logo? Her body pretty much covers (vertically) the entire cover.

 

Sorry for any ignorance on my part or if this was previously answered.

 

Meck

 

 

I think people expected marvel to accommodate the artwork properly.

 

Marvel has been very liberal with where they put the title logo recently, either having the artwork go " over" the title, or making the logo smaller, or shifting it to one side, even at the bottom at times. In some cases making the artwork slightly smaller so its shown fully. It's not like it use to be where the logo stayed in the exact same spot for years on end.

 

They made no attempts to accommodate the art. All they had to do was shrink the image by 10% shift the title up and to the right, like they did on the Oyum variant and you would get most of the art. The could have also shrinked the art 10% and just threw the title to the bottom, they have done this before. They did none of this and planted the title right on top of the " controversy".

 

Looking at the milo variant, it's pretty darn obvious they were trying to cover up her rear. Its so obvious its laughable. I imagine the person in charge of the overlays just floating the title around saying things like " oops, too much crack, a little to the left"

 

Suggesting that it could be shrunk 10% assumes that the piece was not created with the final dimensions of a comic book in mind. If you shrink it, then the art doesn't reach the trim

 

This is the digital age. They could have made it happen, that's all im saying.

I'm glad you're not one of my clients. The computer is not a magic box. You can only work with what you have to work with. It's highly unlikely that the artwork was created with a significant amount of bleed, so shrinking it down 10% would leave a gap at the edges. So unless Marvel is going to invest the time to extend the image digitally so fanboys can ogle Spider-woman's , this is not a realistic course of action.

 

I cannot speak to what you are saying because I am not an expert. If you are an expert, kudos to you and I stand corrected. I have seen all sorts of layouts on covers, so I was assuming they have a lot of control over the process regardless of artwork size. I guess they are just investing time into some covers? To be clear, I think they should work on all images to accommodate the artwork, Not for any particular reason for any one cover, like you wisecracked about, but for all cover art. I think its insulting to the artist what they did here, as I would if they covered up any artwork like this. It's sloppy, and lame.

 

That still does not take away that they intentionally placed the logo to cover it up. They can do whatever they like with the logo's, I have provided proof for that already.

 

It's highly likely Marvel would have provided Manara with a Photoshop file of the cover layout, with shows the placement of the logo, barcode box etc. Manara used watercolours for this piece, so from the outset that's not a digital layered file that can be broken up and moved around easily without repainting. Even using the clone tool in photoshop isn't an easy fix due to the textures. Manaras scanned artwork would then be placed within that Photoshop template.

 

That's why I said in a post above, that that placement of the logo could always have been the intention, yet Manara decided to go for the cheeks spread bum pose because he knew he could get away with it because it would be covered by the logo anyway. But Marvel released the raw image, and thats when the story took off.

 

You sound like you know what you are talking about, so I will give you a nod on that technical stuff. Sounds like they couldn't do much with layering. Sizing I still wonder about.

 

As far as the logo goes, only Milo could answer those questions. My speculation is, he wanted his image shown, but a hand higher up forced the logo to be placed over his artwork.

 

I highly doubt Milo went into that painting thinking " ahah! I will create a controversy with this butt pose, and it will just be covered up LOL".

 

There is no logical reason he should have thought it would be a problem. There are MANY covers in recent years that are just as racy as this one. This one just got attention, probably because its Spiderwoman # 1 and not some random Xmen issue.

 

Heck, his Uncanny X-force # 5 variant from last year is pretty racy. Notice how they didn't cover up psylocke's face with the logo on this one.

 

[divad]

 

Frankly, this is just fanboy porno . . .

[Aweandlorder]

 

Is this the gas or grass variant?