DCIndexer Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) according to this web site http://www.dcindexes.com/features/timemachine.php?site=marvel Then they're wrong, as I looked it up in the books themselves (they have a weekly list) and DD was out before Hulk. Actually the dates on my site ARE correct AND are backed up by years of actual research. Edited April 15, 2014 by DCIndexer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conditionfreak Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Oh snap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIndexer Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) But the key question is which one came out first? Might have to consult some Might Marvel Checklists for that. Yeah, wouldnt it be funny if Daredevil came out after hulk 181 and one of the other books is the real " Pre- hulk 181" book. haha. Honestly, this could get confusing. The ad shows Hulk 181 as releasing July 30th. Does that mean it was one of the last November cover dated books that came out in July or were November Dated books released in August and the fist wave just happened to hit on July 30th? hmm. Online U.S. Copyright records only go back to 1978: So you would have to arrange an in-office search. Actually, copyright records dating back to 1891 are available online. Copyright records 1974 Relevant Daredevil and Hulk entries. Notice both titles show the same day for the Nov. cover dated releases. Keep in mind that Marvel's copyright recording dates for this period are often 3 to 4 weeks earlier than actual "release" dates. However, the order of releases is consistent. Daredevil and Hulk came out the same day. Edited April 15, 2014 by DCIndexer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I am totally impressed - great work! (Considering your screen name, I defer to your excellence (thumbs u ) Although, it would be more polite to drop the "Also . . . " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Hulk 180 pre-dates all of it. Seriously, why all the fuss then? But I digress . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Namor Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I love your web site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpinkpanther67 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 according to this web site http://www.dcindexes.com/features/timemachine.php?site=marvel Then they're wrong, as I looked it up in the books themselves (they have a weekly list) and DD was out before Hulk. Actually the dates on my site ARE correct AND are backed up by years of actual research. But the key question is which one came out first? Might have to consult some Might Marvel Checklists for that. Yeah, wouldnt it be funny if Daredevil came out after hulk 181 and one of the other books is the real " Pre- hulk 181" book. haha. Honestly, this could get confusing. The ad shows Hulk 181 as releasing July 30th. Does that mean it was one of the last November cover dated books that came out in July or were November Dated books released in August and the fist wave just happened to hit on July 30th? hmm. Online U.S. Copyright records only go back to 1978: So you would have to arrange an in-office search. Actually, copyright records dating back to 1891 are available online. Copyright records 1974 Relevant Daredevil and Hulk entries. Notice both titles show the same day for the Nov. cover dated releases. Keep in mind that Marvel's copyright recording dates for this period are often 3 to 4 weeks earlier than actual "release" dates. However, the order of releases is consistent. Daredevil and Hulk came out the same day. Wait for it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 The arrogance of some of these people is just astonishing. Just astonishing. Excellent work, DCI, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidTheDavid Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I love your web site! The site is new to me, will be fun to explore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyThreeSons Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Just checked out your website Mike. Very Cool!! (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonzilla Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Great site! I always knew ASM 252 came out before MTU 141. CGC may have to change their "ties for 1st black costume" label Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 The arrogance of some of these people is just astonishing. Just astonishing. I'll say . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Great site! I always knew ASM 252 came out before MTU 141. CGC may have to change their "ties for 1st black costume" label That had already been well established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonzilla Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I've know it since the books came out but tell CGC, they call it a "tie" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I've know it since the books came out but tell CGC, they call it a "tie" But they don't mean it came out the same day. Since comics have almost universally (there are exceptions, of course) been dated month and year only, in that respect, it *is* a tie: Spidey #252, MTU #141, and Spect #90 all have a May, 1984 cover date. Of course, anyone with sense will realize that #252 came out before the other two, or the surprise would have been spoiled (plus, MTU #141 would have confused the market.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 The arrogance of some of these people is just astonishing. Just astonishing. I'll say . . . Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonzilla Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I've know it since the books came out but tell CGC, they call it a "tie" But they don't mean it came out the same day. Since comics have almost universally (there are exceptions, of course) been dated month and year only, in that respect, it *is* a tie: Spidey #252, MTU #141, and Spect #90 all have a May, 1984 cover date. Of course, anyone with sense will realize that #252 came out before the other two, or the surprise would have been spoiled (plus, MTU #141 would have confused the market.) Seeing that 99.9% of collectors regard ASM 252 as the 1st black costume, and the "tie notation" label is fairly recent, it makes me wonder if someone at CGC is sitting on a case of MTU 141 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpinkpanther67 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 What's really special is when someone who lives to show off how much they know and demean people AND MAKE IT A POINT TO DEMEAN PEOPLE WHENEVER POSSIBLE, don't have the effing stones to come back and admit they were wrong when the actual facts come to light ...just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighVoltage Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 What's really special is when someone who lives to show off how much they know and demean people AND MAKE IT A POINT TO DEMEAN PEOPLE WHENEVER POSSIBLE, don't have the effing stones to come back and admit they were wrong when the actual facts come to light ...just sayin' What are you, kidding me?! You know someone will be back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Actually the dates on my site ARE correct AND are backed up by years of actual research. Then something is wrong and I screwed up with the data, as the listings I have show DD historically coming out a week ahead of the Hulk. Was 181 as anomaly and came out a week early or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...