whetteon Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) Edited March 21, 2014 by whetteon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 You really don't know about the OS + dealers push to extend the BA in the mid-80's? Conventional wisdom, logic, and previous OS stances have put the end of the BA somewhere around 1980-81, but more recently, dealers with dead 1981-84 stock started to promote those books as being BA also. Crazy, but money talks and these early-80's Marvel/DC books were unsellable, so not long after, OS also extended their view of the BA to 1985 or something... all in an attempt to make a few more $$$$ for their poor dealer partners. And if the dealers push it, in a few more years it will change to 1987 and then 1989 and then 1992 and then 1995... It's all marketing, and "investment grade Bronze" sounds a helluva lot sexier than "investment grade Copper/Modern". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faster friends Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I this 1983 would be pushing the cap on Bronze. Wolverine Lmt, New Mutants #1 etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I this 1983 would be pushing the cap on Bronze. Wolverine Lmt, New Mutants #1 etc... Nope, according to greedy OS advisors, those are all BA (Wolverine Ltd was released mid-1982 BTW) and everything through 1984. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjrjr Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) You really don't know about the OS + dealers push to extend the BA in the mid-80's? Conventional wisdom, logic, and previous OS stances have put the end of the BA somewhere around 1980-81, but more recently, dealers with dead 1981-84 stock started to promote those books as being BA also. Crazy, but money talks and these early-80's Marvel/DC books were unsellable, so not long after, OS also extended their view of the BA to 1985 or something... all in an attempt to make a few more $$$$ for their poor dealer partners. And if the dealers push it, in a few more years it will change to 1987 and then 1989 and then 1992 and then 1995... It's all marketing, and "investment grade Bronze" sounds a helluva lot sexier than "investment grade Copper/Modern". Define "more recently"? Looking through my old Overstreet Guides, I see an article titled Comic Book Ages: Starting the Discussion in the 33rd edition (2003) where it is suggested the Bronze Age is 1973 (Death of Gwen Stacy) - 1985 (DC's Crisis starts the Copper Age.) The 1984-85 time period has been suggested now for over 10 years. This isn't a recent development. Edited March 21, 2014 by rjrjr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illustrious Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 There was a Cap #153 feeding frenzy on eBay the past two days with the mention that William Burnside (aka the psychotic 1950's Cap) might be the main plot point of Cap 3, all graded copies sold real quick: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=captain+america+153&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc Writers of the film mention it here: http://screenrant.com/captain-america-3-plot/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonzilla Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 There was a Cap #153 feeding frenzy on eBay the past two days with the mention that William Burnside (aka the psychotic 1950's Cap) might be the main plot point of Cap 3, all graded copies sold real quick: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=captain+america+153&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc Writers of the film mention it here: http://screenrant.com/captain-america-3-plot/ That story arc is one of my all time faves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnhDepTrai Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 There was a Cap #153 feeding frenzy on eBay the past two days with the mention that William Burnside (aka the psychotic 1950's Cap) might be the main plot point of Cap 3, all graded copies sold real quick: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=captain+america+153&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc Writers of the film mention it here: http://screenrant.com/captain-america-3-plot/ Whoever bought that slab could have got it $19 cheaper if they buy from MCS straight instead their Ebay. That's still $50+ over the last sale of 9.6, contemplating and it's a goner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illustrious Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Did you pick up a copy? I saw your WTB thread looking for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnhDepTrai Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Got 1 copy for $1 at LCS, not NM but can't complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 There was a Cap #153 feeding frenzy on eBay the past two days with the mention that William Burnside (aka the psychotic 1950's Cap) might be the main plot point of Cap 3, all graded copies sold real quick: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=captain+america+153&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc Writers of the film mention it here: http://screenrant.com/captain-america-3-plot/ That story arc is one of my all time faves! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 [starting the Discussion in the 33rd edition (2003) where it is suggested the Bronze Age is 1973 (Death of Gwen Stacy) - 1985 (DC's Crisis starts the Copper Age.) The 1984-85 time period has been suggested now for over 10 years. This isn't a recent development. "Suggested"? What are you referring to, and could you please post a scan of the OS Declaration of the Bronze Age for me to see? I am referring more to definitive articles like this one, citing Conan and GL/GA 76 as the start points of the BA and ends with 1980 (BTW, ASM 121 is insane for a starting point ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Define "more recently"? Post-CGC. This is what drove dealers to attempt to stupidly extend the BA into 1985 and turn their junk 1981-85 books into "Investment Grade Bronze". It's just pure greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassGMan Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I this 1983 would be pushing the cap on Bronze. Wolverine Lmt, New Mutants #1 etc... Nope, according to greedy OS advisors, those are all BA (Wolverine Ltd was released mid-1982 BTW) and everything through 1984. I think we should give collectors more credit. We aren't THAT stupid! I don't care who says what about when BA started or ended. I buy what I want to buy and for me personally I consider BA as being the 70s decade, '70 -'79 and that's it. Is anyone really going to use these definitions of when the ages start or end as part of their criteria for deciding what to purchase? Like I said, we are not that dumb.... I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingDonut Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I usually go to the 50 cent price switch, which is a good bet. DC and Marvels cover dated September, 1980, which would have been on sale in June, 1980. There are a couple of laggards in there - X-Men 138-143 are definitely Bronze Age books, but that's a pretty good barometer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Marvel Two-in-One #5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Nice front cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Yes, most unfortunate back cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnhDepTrai Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Save me $7/book for submission so I am all for BA 70-79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonzilla Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 IMO the Bronze Age ends when Miller's Daredevil and Byrne's X-Men runs finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
