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MrWeen

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"Not correct. The appearance has to be in sequential art (that is, TELLS A STORY), that is not intended to be "officially printed" in another publication."

 

I appreciate your excellent response format and always have but that is where my appreciation ends. The bulk of your response centers around your point above. The problem is, you just made this fact up. I can find no definition of first appearance that says the appearance has to tell a story sequentially that isn't intended to be officially printed.

 

That's not what I said.

 

I said "The appearance has to be in sequential art (that is, TELLS A STORY), that is not intended to be "officially printed" in another publication. "

 

It looks like you stopped at "officially printed" and didn't read the following three words, which radically changes the meaning of what I said.

 

 

And no, I did not just "make this fact up." (Don't read that as "snarky"; it's not.) This has been established comics history going back decades. No one has ever considered non-story appearances (that is, ADS) to be "first appearances". or Action Comics #12 and the others would be worth more than Detective Comics #27.

 

Nope I quoted you in full, hence the quotation marks. And while you list one example ( Action 12 ) there are others more recent ( Malibu Sun 13 ) that are in opposition to what you state.

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wow, we really are comic nerds, i make a reference to over-wide shlongs and an**al blitzkrieg and nobody pauses to tell me i am disgusting or anything, you just keep on arguing about what constitutes a first appearance

 

I blame the weed, Seizoen Bretta, three weeks off from work and an obsession with collecting real first appearances. Add to that the fact that my LCS is now selling books like Deadworld 10, Capes 1 and others with first appearance labels on their walls. If the market matters so much when determining these things then that should matter. No?

I don’t know what are "over-wide shlongs" and an "an**al blitzkrieg" but I neither want to know… lol

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... while you list one example ( Action 12 ) there are others more recent ( Malibu Sun 13 ) that are in opposition to what you state.

It's not possible to compare values without acknowledging vast differences in supply whenever it occurs.

 

Action #12 and Detective #27 have survived at similar quantities... so there is no concern about a supply difference. Detective #27 is incredibly more valuable than Action #12 because DC #27 is the first appearance of Batman, while Action #12 is an earlier advertisement for Batman.

 

Malibu Sun #13 vs. Spawn #1 is a difference of about a million copies.

 

If there were ALSO a million copies of Malibu Sun #13, it would be worth a small fraction of the value of Spawn #1.

 

The fact that Malibu Sun #13 sells for more than Spawn #1 isn't a reflection of Malibu Sun #13 being the first appearance of Spawn. It's a reflection that the first appearance of Spawn in Spawn #1 is extremely easy to locate, while a very early advertisement for Spawn is much more difficult to locate.

 

If ads aren't counted as first appearances 75 years later (Superman, Batman)... then they never will be.

 

That doesn't mean ads can't be more valuable... but that's because of supply and demand... not because an ad is a first appearance.

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"Not correct. The appearance has to be in sequential art (that is, TELLS A STORY), that is not intended to be "officially printed" in another publication."

 

I appreciate your excellent response format and always have but that is where my appreciation ends. The bulk of your response centers around your point above. The problem is, you just made this fact up. I can find no definition of first appearance that says the appearance has to tell a story sequentially that isn't intended to be officially printed.

 

That's not what I said.

 

I said "The appearance has to be in sequential art (that is, TELLS A STORY), that is not intended to be "officially printed" in another publication. "

 

It looks like you stopped at "officially printed" and didn't read the following three words, which radically changes the meaning of what I said.

 

 

And no, I did not just "make this fact up." (Don't read that as "snarky"; it's not.) This has been established comics history going back decades. No one has ever considered non-story appearances (that is, ADS) to be "first appearances". or Action Comics #12 and the others would be worth more than Detective Comics #27.

 

Nope I quoted you in full, hence the quotation marks.

 

Then why did you leave those three words off when you repeated it? You DO understand that those three words left off completely changed the meaning of what I said, right?

 

Regardless, you CAN find such a definition of "real" first appearances, right here, on this very board, multiple times. Definitions are based on common usage; the dictionary didn't descend from on high, fully formed and complete. How do you think definitions come to be? The definition of a first appearance: in a story, NOT including a "preview"...is one that has been accepted as standard since the beginning of comic fandom, otherwise...Action #12 would be worth more than Detective Comics #27.

 

And while you list one example ( Action 12 ) there are others more recent ( Malibu Sun 13 ) that are in opposition to what you state.

 

When I say "worth more", I don't mean (just) money. I mean "value to the collector community, all things considered."

 

I can list countless examples. Malibu Sun #13 isn't the first appearance of Spawn. Spawn #1 is the first appearance of Spawn.

 

In fact, these things are so silly, it has now been "discovered" that it is "actually" Rust #1 that is the "real" first appearance.

 

Which is it?

 

You know what IS the first appearance of the New Teen Titans? DC Comics Presents #26. Yup, it's a preview. And yup, it's an original story.

 

You know what is NOT the first appearance of the Walking Dead?

 

Capes #1, which only prints a few of the first pages from Walking Dead #1.

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... while you list one example ( Action 12 ) there are others more recent ( Malibu Sun 13 ) that are in opposition to what you state.

It's not possible to compare values without acknowledging vast differences in supply whenever it occurs.

 

Action #12 and Detective #27 have survived at similar quantities... so there is no concern about a supply difference. Detective #27 is incredibly more valuable than Action #12 because DC #27 is the first appearance of Batman, while Action #12 is an earlier advertisement for Batman.

 

Malibu Sun #13 vs. Spawn #1 is a difference of about a million copies.

 

If there were ALSO a million copies of Malibu Sun #13, it would be worth a small fraction of the value of Spawn #1.

 

The fact that Malibu Sun #13 sells for more than Spawn #1 isn't a reflection of Malibu Sun #13 being the first appearance of Spawn. It's a reflection that the first appearance of Spawn in Spawn #1 is extremely easy to locate, while a very early advertisement for Spawn is much more difficult to locate.

 

If ads aren't counted as first appearances 75 years later (Superman, Batman)... then they never will be.

 

That doesn't mean ads can't be more valuable... but that's because of supply and demand... not because an ad is a first appearance.

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This too.

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... while you list one example ( Action 12 ) there are others more recent ( Malibu Sun 13 ) that are in opposition to what you state.

It's not possible to compare values without acknowledging vast differences in supply whenever it occurs.

 

Action #12 and Detective #27 have survived at similar quantities... so there is no concern about a supply difference. Detective #27 is incredibly more valuable than Action #12 because DC #27 is the first appearance of Batman, while Action #12 is an earlier advertisement for Batman.

 

Malibu Sun #13 vs. Spawn #1 is a difference of about a million copies.

 

If there were ALSO a million copies of Malibu Sun #13, it would be worth a small fraction of the value of Spawn #1.

 

The fact that Malibu Sun #13 sells for more than Spawn #1 isn't a reflection of Malibu Sun #13 being the first appearance of Spawn. It's a reflection that the first appearance of Spawn in Spawn #1 is extremely easy to locate, while a very early advertisement for Spawn is much more difficult to locate.

 

If ads aren't counted as first appearances 75 years later (Superman, Batman)... then they never will be.

 

That doesn't mean ads can't be more valuable... but that's because of supply and demand... not because an ad is a first appearance.

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This too.

And that was a great post! (thumbs u

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If the story is original, yes. If not, no. The nature of a "preview" almost universally means that it's material intended to be printed elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure that the Damage Control preview in Marvel Age Annual #4 is not excerpts from the book, but it's been a while since I read it. I do remember that the Wolverine preview is sort of a recap of what had been happening with the character in X-Men, so it's not exactly a story, although the art is original.

 

A good example of a legit first appearance in a preview is Lazarus.

 

I just read the story in Marvel Age Annual #4. It's a 4 page, original story that predates Damage Control's other appearances. Even at only 4 pages, it's actually a frame story - the first page has a guy from Damage Control approaching the Joe Fixit version of Hulk and handing him a brochure about Damage Control. Pages 2-3 are basically an ad for Damage Control (which Hulk is reading) explaining what the series is. And page 4 is Hulk kicking the guy's butt and tossing him out of the casino.

 

So it is an original story, not an excerpt of a later published issue. It's not much of a first appearance - in terms of these sorts of things, it's not as strong as something like Rat Queens in Image What's Next - but I think it is their first appearance.

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If the story is original, yes. If not, no. The nature of a "preview" almost universally means that it's material intended to be printed elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure that the Damage Control preview in Marvel Age Annual #4 is not excerpts from the book, but it's been a while since I read it. I do remember that the Wolverine preview is sort of a recap of what had been happening with the character in X-Men, so it's not exactly a story, although the art is original.

 

A good example of a legit first appearance in a preview is Lazarus.

 

I just read the story in Marvel Age Annual #4. It's a 4 page, original story that predates Damage Control's other appearances. Even at only 4 pages, it's actually a frame story - the first page has a guy from Damage Control approaching the Joe Fixit version of Hulk and handing him a brochure about Damage Control. Pages 2-3 are basically an ad for Damage Control (which Hulk is reading) explaining what the series is. And page 4 is Hulk kicking the guy's butt and tossing him out of the casino.

 

So it is an original story, not an excerpt of a later published issue. It's not much of a first appearance - in terms of these sorts of things, it's not as strong as something like Rat Queens in Image What's Next - but I think it is their first appearance.

 

Erm, we're talking Damage Control, right?

Who cares?

Even if this show gets picked, and even if it does better than Walking dead (Sorry, I have to be my eccentric self here, bear with me), its still a series about a unit reconstructing demolished areas. How will this ever generate cult following status??

People just get into the habit of "investing" in "optioned" books without even thinking of the book's context. This is a fun series, a brilliant concept and Im glad it got picked. But come on now..

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If the story is original, yes. If not, no. The nature of a "preview" almost universally means that it's material intended to be printed elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure that the Damage Control preview in Marvel Age Annual #4 is not excerpts from the book, but it's been a while since I read it. I do remember that the Wolverine preview is sort of a recap of what had been happening with the character in X-Men, so it's not exactly a story, although the art is original.

 

A good example of a legit first appearance in a preview is Lazarus.

 

I just read the story in Marvel Age Annual #4. It's a 4 page, original story that predates Damage Control's other appearances. Even at only 4 pages, it's actually a frame story - the first page has a guy from Damage Control approaching the Joe Fixit version of Hulk and handing him a brochure about Damage Control. Pages 2-3 are basically an ad for Damage Control (which Hulk is reading) explaining what the series is. And page 4 is Hulk kicking the guy's butt and tossing him out of the casino.

 

So it is an original story, not an excerpt of a later published issue. It's not much of a first appearance - in terms of these sorts of things, it's not as strong as something like Rat Queens in Image What's Next - but I think it is their first appearance.

 

Erm, we're talking Damage Control, right?

Who cares?

Even if this show gets picked, and even if it does better than Walking dead (Sorry, I have to be my eccentric self here, bear with me), its still a series about a unit reconstructing demolished areas. How will this ever generate cult following status??

People just get into the habit of "investing" in "optioned" books without even thinking of the book's context. This is a fun series, a brilliant concept and Im glad it got picked. But come on now..

 

When it comes to Hollywood I think the "yeah, we can do it but should we?" Question got thrown out the window a long time ago.

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If the story is original, yes. If not, no. The nature of a "preview" almost universally means that it's material intended to be printed elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure that the Damage Control preview in Marvel Age Annual #4 is not excerpts from the book, but it's been a while since I read it. I do remember that the Wolverine preview is sort of a recap of what had been happening with the character in X-Men, so it's not exactly a story, although the art is original.

 

A good example of a legit first appearance in a preview is Lazarus.

 

I just read the story in Marvel Age Annual #4. It's a 4 page, original story that predates Damage Control's other appearances. Even at only 4 pages, it's actually a frame story - the first page has a guy from Damage Control approaching the Joe Fixit version of Hulk and handing him a brochure about Damage Control. Pages 2-3 are basically an ad for Damage Control (which Hulk is reading) explaining what the series is. And page 4 is Hulk kicking the guy's butt and tossing him out of the casino.

 

So it is an original story, not an excerpt of a later published issue. It's not much of a first appearance - in terms of these sorts of things, it's not as strong as something like Rat Queens in Image What's Next - but I think it is their first appearance.

 

Erm, we're talking Damage Control, right?

Who cares?

Even if this show gets picked, and even if it does better than Walking dead (Sorry, I have to be my eccentric self here, bear with me), its still a series about a unit reconstructing demolished areas. How will this ever generate cult following status??

People just get into the habit of "investing" in "optioned" books without even thinking of the book's context. This is a fun series, a brilliant concept and Im glad it got picked. But come on now..

 

When it comes to Hollywood I think the "yeah, we can do it but should we?" Question got thrown out the window a long time ago.

 

Yep.

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"Not correct. The appearance has to be in sequential art (that is, TELLS A STORY), that is not intended to be "officially printed" in another publication."

 

I appreciate your excellent response format and always have but that is where my appreciation ends. The bulk of your response centers around your point above. The problem is, you just made this fact up. I can find no definition of first appearance that says the appearance has to tell a story sequentially that isn't intended to be officially printed.

 

That's not what I said.

 

I said "The appearance has to be in sequential art (that is, TELLS A STORY), that is not intended to be "officially printed" in another publication. "

 

It looks like you stopped at "officially printed" and didn't read the following three words, which radically changes the meaning of what I said.

 

 

And no, I did not just "make this fact up." (Don't read that as "snarky"; it's not.) This has been established comics history going back decades. No one has ever considered non-story appearances (that is, ADS) to be "first appearances". or Action Comics #12 and the others would be worth more than Detective Comics #27.

 

Nope I quoted you in full, hence the quotation marks.

 

Then why did you leave those three words off when you repeated it? You DO understand that those three words left off completely changed the meaning of what I said, right?

 

Regardless, you CAN find such a definition of "real" first appearances, right here, on this very board, multiple times. Definitions are based on common usage; the dictionary didn't descend from on high, fully formed and complete. How do you think definitions come to be? The definition of a first appearance: in a story, NOT including a "preview"...is one that has been accepted as standard since the beginning of comic fandom, otherwise...Action #12 would be worth more than Detective Comics #27.

 

And while you list one example ( Action 12 ) there are others more recent ( Malibu Sun 13 ) that are in opposition to what you state.

 

When I say "worth more", I don't mean (just) money. I mean "value to the collector community, all things considered."

 

I can list countless examples. Malibu Sun #13 isn't the first appearance of Spawn. Spawn #1 is the first appearance of Spawn.

 

In fact, these things are so silly, it has now been "discovered" that it is "actually" Rust #1 that is the "real" first appearance.

 

Which is it?

 

You know what IS the first appearance of the New Teen Titans? DC Comics Presents #26. Yup, it's a preview. And yup, it's an original story.

 

You know what is NOT the first appearance of the Walking Dead?

 

Capes #1, which only prints a few of the first pages from Walking Dead #1.

 

I still don't see how a preview that's intended to be in another publication or not matters. If Rick Grimes appears in Capes 1 then that's the first Rick Grimes no matter what it sells for. You really need to forget the monetary value of the thing and trust your eyes.

 

For arguments sake I'm willing to discount all ADs for a second and just look at excerpts of sequential art. Do we not see Rick Grimes in a sequential story for the first time in Capes/Agents 1?

Just answer that question for me.

 

When you are forced to answer yes then realize that there are countless examples of this.

 

Saga 1 may be worth more and in higher demand but issue one was previewed sequentially in color and in an earlier publication. That's not me making up some arbitrary definition. It's a fact.

 

As far as ADs go, I'm not trying to change the marketplace and Spawn 1 can sell for a dime while Malibu Sun sells for 50 a pop. But there's a reason why people want Malibu Sun 13 and it's because it predates Spawn 1. Spawn is on the cover of a lot of publications that aren't worth squat because they came out after Malibu Sun 13. And you are right Rust 1 has proven to have an earlier image of Spawn but it too sells for less than Malibu Sun 13. Why? Both versions do not have dynamic covers, They feature Rust and no one cares as much as a result. The collectible here appears to be Malibu Sun 13 because it's rare and has a striking cover. The point is...take value out of it. If Spawn's first appearance is in Rust 1 so what? The market can decide what's worth more. It just can't be used to determine facts. You and I can go around and around disproving and proving each other's small points but at the end of the day you can't just create a definition like this:

 

 

"The appearance has to be in sequential art (that is, TELLS A STORY), that is not intended to be "officially printed" in another publication. "

 

 

 

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I think everyone got the message now not to underestimate the Marvel Age issues. I warned you.

 

Anyways, Marvel Age Annual #4 is the 1st appearance of characters (For example; Henry Ackerdson) affliated with Damage Control but it is not the 1st appearance of Damage Control.

 

 

 

 

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"Not correct. The appearance has to be in sequential art (that is, TELLS A STORY), that is not intended to be "officially printed" in another publication."

 

I appreciate your excellent response format and always have but that is where my appreciation ends. The bulk of your response centers around your point above. The problem is, you just made this fact up. I can find no definition of first appearance that says the appearance has to tell a story sequentially that isn't intended to be officially printed.

 

That's not what I said.

 

I said "The appearance has to be in sequential art (that is, TELLS A STORY), that is not intended to be "officially printed" in another publication. "

 

It looks like you stopped at "officially printed" and didn't read the following three words, which radically changes the meaning of what I said.

 

 

And no, I did not just "make this fact up." (Don't read that as "snarky"; it's not.) This has been established comics history going back decades. No one has ever considered non-story appearances (that is, ADS) to be "first appearances". or Action Comics #12 and the others would be worth more than Detective Comics #27.

 

Nope I quoted you in full, hence the quotation marks.

 

Then why did you leave those three words off when you repeated it? You DO understand that those three words left off completely changed the meaning of what I said, right?

 

Regardless, you CAN find such a definition of "real" first appearances, right here, on this very board, multiple times. Definitions are based on common usage; the dictionary didn't descend from on high, fully formed and complete. How do you think definitions come to be? The definition of a first appearance: in a story, NOT including a "preview"...is one that has been accepted as standard since the beginning of comic fandom, otherwise...Action #12 would be worth more than Detective Comics #27.

 

And while you list one example ( Action 12 ) there are others more recent ( Malibu Sun 13 ) that are in opposition to what you state.

 

When I say "worth more", I don't mean (just) money. I mean "value to the collector community, all things considered."

 

I can list countless examples. Malibu Sun #13 isn't the first appearance of Spawn. Spawn #1 is the first appearance of Spawn.

 

In fact, these things are so silly, it has now been "discovered" that it is "actually" Rust #1 that is the "real" first appearance.

 

Which is it?

 

You know what IS the first appearance of the New Teen Titans? DC Comics Presents #26. Yup, it's a preview. And yup, it's an original story.

 

You know what is NOT the first appearance of the Walking Dead?

 

Capes #1, which only prints a few of the first pages from Walking Dead #1.

 

I still don't see how a preview that's intended to be in another publication or not matters. If Rick Grimes appears in Capes 1 then that's the first Rick Grimes no matter what it sells for. You really need to forget the monetary value of the thing and trust your eyes.

 

I don't care about the monetary value. That has nothing to do with the conversation.

 

It's NOT the "first appearance" of Rick Grimes; it's a preview of Walking Dead #1, which IS the first appearance of Rick Grimes.

 

For arguments sake I'm willing to discount all ADs for a second and just look at excerpts of sequential art. Do we not see Rick Grimes in a sequential story for the first time in Capes/Agents 1?

Just answer that question for me.

 

Yes.

 

And that doesn't change it. Both conditions have to be present.

 

The appearance must BOTH be sequential art (that is, a STORY) AND it must not be a preview (as in, literally pages from a forthcoming comic.)

 

If BOTH of those conditions isn't met, then it's not a first appearance.

 

When you are forced to answer yes then realize that there are countless examples of this.

 

Why am I "forced" to answer yes? There's no force about it; the preview pages of Walking Dead are quite clearly sequential art.

 

However...they are not ORIGINAL STORY PAGES. They are simply pages taken from Walking Dead #1 and printed elsewhere.

 

Saga 1 may be worth more and in higher demand but issue one was previewed sequentially in color and in an earlier publication. That's not me making up some arbitrary definition. It's a fact.

 

Ok. And...?

 

As far as ADs go, I'm not trying to change the marketplace and Spawn 1 can sell for a dime while Malibu Sun sells for 50 a pop. But there's a reason why people want Malibu Sun 13 and it's because it predates Spawn 1.

 

Those people who want Malibu Sun 13 INVARIABLY want Spawn #1. I think it might even be safe to say that there's not a single person who has interest in Malibu Sun #13 who also doesn't have an interest in Spawn #1.

 

It's ALSO safe to say that the reverse is NOT true...that is, not everybody who wants a Spawn #1 also wants a Malibu Sun #13.

 

The reason isn't because it "predates Spawn #1." The reason is because it has an ad for Spawn.

 

Spawn is on the cover of a lot of publications that aren't worth squat because they came out after Malibu Sun 13. And you are right Rust 1 has proven to have an earlier image of Spawn but it too sells for less than Malibu Sun 13. Why? Both versions do not have dynamic covers, They feature Rust and no one cares as much as a result. The collectible here appears to be Malibu Sun 13 because it's rare

 

It's not rare.

 

It's rarER than Spawn #1.

 

But it's not rare.

 

and has a striking cover. The point is...take value out of it. If Spawn's first appearance is in Rust 1 so what?

 

Spawn's first appearance is Spawn #1. That is not going to change, no matter how you or a select few may wish it to. An ad, a preview, is not a first appearance.

 

The market can decide what's worth more. It just can't be used to determine facts. You and I can go around and around disproving and proving each other's small points but at the end of the day you can't just create a definition like this:

 

Who said anything about value "determining facts"....?

 

"The appearance has to be in sequential art (that is, TELLS A STORY), that is not intended to be "officially printed" in another publication. "

 

 

 

You are correct. I didn't create it. I simply recognize that it was what the hobby has determined, many decades ago.

 

Otherwise, Action Comics #12 would be worth more (I'm NOT TALKING ABOUT MONETARY VALUE) than Detective Comics #27.

 

It would be more highly desired, more highly prized, and yes, AS A RESULT, it would be worth more money....but that would come as a result of demand, which is always the case. The demand comes, THEN the money comes, not the other way around.

 

But it's not. Why? Because it's just an ad. It may be the "first printed appearance of the Batman"....but it's not his REAL first appearance, and that distinction will always and forever be Detective Comics #27.

 

Listen, as long as you keep putting up the fiction that ads, previews, and the like are "real" first appearances, I'm going to keep responding "no." Nothing personal...but you are trying to redefine the hobby, and with many bubbleheads who don't know any better, there must be a counterpoint to this.

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I still don't see how a preview that's intended to be in another publication or not matters. If Rick Grimes appears in Capes 1 then that's the first Rick Grimes no matter what it sells for. You really need to forget the monetary value of the thing and trust your eyes.

 

For arguments sake I'm willing to discount all ADs for a second and just look at excerpts of sequential art. Do we not see Rick Grimes in a sequential story for the first time in Capes/Agents 1?

Then you just conceded the argument, because previews are ads for the comic. They're marketing content.

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I still don't see how a preview that's intended to be in another publication or not matters. If Rick Grimes appears in Capes 1 then that's the first Rick Grimes no matter what it sells for. You really need to forget the monetary value of the thing and trust your eyes.

 

For arguments sake I'm willing to discount all ADs for a second and just look at excerpts of sequential art. Do we not see Rick Grimes in a sequential story for the first time in Capes/Agents 1?

Then you just conceded the argument, because previews are ads for the comic. They're marketing content.

 

I said for arguments sake.

 

I still firmly believe that ads can represents a first appearance but I understand that many around here disagree.

 

A preview like WD in Capes is another story. That's a first appearance of major characters. The problem is that when we are talking about making money off the WD. The market jumped on issue 1 because collectors were not knowledgeable of the preview. As we all know markets can take a long time to make the proper corrections. I believe RMA thinks I am trying to change the monetary value of a book like WD 1 in the marketplace and that is not true. Besides at this point it's probably impossible for many valid reasons RMA states. I know it's hard for people who see comics as mostly a source of income to realize the importance of say a Rust 1 which prints Spawn in black and white for the first time or Superman Adv 4 which prints the cover to 5 but in black and white one month earlier or the plethora of others...Omega Men 2, ASM 359 and on an on. In a lot of these cases I even agree that a first comic book appearance should be should be WORTH more. Just don't tell me for decades a bunch of collectors and dealers use some arbitrary definition that RMA made up to suit his argument. If that's the case the Gwenpool's first appearance hasn't even happened yet and both the market and myself know otherwise.

 

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Erm, we're talking Damage Control, right?

Who cares?

Even if this show gets picked, and even if it does better than Walking dead (Sorry, I have to be my eccentric self here, bear with me), its still a series about a unit reconstructing demolished areas. How will this ever generate cult following status??

People just get into the habit of "investing" in "optioned" books without even thinking of the book's context. This is a fun series, a brilliant concept and Im glad it got picked. But come on now..

 

Because this is a thread about comics heating up and that comic is heating up and there is the reasoning for it. (shrug)

We're not debating the merits of options. That's best left to he Moderns section anyways.

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Erm, we're talking Damage Control, right?

Who cares?

Even if this show gets picked, and even if it does better than Walking dead (Sorry, I have to be my eccentric self here, bear with me), its still a series about a unit reconstructing demolished areas. How will this ever generate cult following status??

People just get into the habit of "investing" in "optioned" books without even thinking of the book's context. This is a fun series, a brilliant concept and Im glad it got picked. But come on now..

 

Because this is a thread about comics heating up and that comic is heating up and there is the reasoning for it. (shrug)

We're not debating the merits of options. That's best left to he Moderns section anyways.

 

Im not saying it shouldnt be discussed. It should.

Im just not justifying it.

Kapish?

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