comicnoir Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 3/24/2022 at 4:33 AM, jimjum12 said: Recent pick-up VOODOO 1 by Ajax Farrell (1952). With all the price increases lately, the PCH genre almost seems cheap. This one has a Matt Baker story that looks like it may have been intended for an issue of Seven Seas Comics .... GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) I borrowed shots of the Matt Baker story from www.comicbookplus.com .... if you ever wonder what's inside a comic from the 40's and 50's AND the comic is in the Public Domain, chances are it's available there. FANTASTIC research site. Thanks for posting this great Baker story. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jayman Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 Voodoo #2 ain’t too shabby either with some Baker art also according to the GCD. Raze, comicnoir, vaultkeeper and 13 others 14 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jayman Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 On 3/25/2022 at 2:16 AM, mstrange said: A stunner! Congrats! mstrange 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Btw, how is Coc #23 not labeled as a classic cover yet?!!? Point Five, Raze, mstrange and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 On 3/25/2022 at 7:45 PM, Jayman said: Btw, how is Coc #23 not labeled as a classic cover yet?!!? They're taking a wait-and-see attitude. We'll see if it becomes popular. You never know. Raze and Mr. Lady Luck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bronze johnny Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 On 3/25/2022 at 7:45 PM, Jayman said: Btw, how is Coc #23 not labeled as a classic cover yet?!!? Jay, do you really need a label from a comic book grading company to tell you a cover is classic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 On 3/25/2022 at 8:33 PM, bronze johnny said: Jay, do you really need a label from a comic book grading company to tell you a cover is classic? No, and I remember your topic on classic designations. But this one seems so obvious that it’s just hard to believe it’s not already on the label. Maybe “Classic Zombie Kiss” would be better? mstrange 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifties Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 On 3/25/2022 at 5:02 PM, Point Five said: They're taking a wait-and-see attitude. We'll see if it becomes popular. You never know. On 3/25/2022 at 5:33 PM, bronze johnny said: Jay, do you really need a label from a comic book grading company to tell you a cover is classic? CGC and other companies that grade & encapsulate are GRADERS, and not necessarily experts in determining classifications. I think that would be up to collectors, as displayed by how much value they place in buying. I don't think there's any question that COC 23 is considered classic by those of us who collect this genre of comic books. Jayman and Mr. Lady Luck 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze johnny Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 On 3/26/2022 at 5:14 PM, fifties said: CGC and other companies that grade & encapsulate are GRADERS, and not necessarily experts in determining classifications. I think that would be up to collectors, as displayed by how much value they place in buying. I don't think there's any question that COC 23 is considered classic by those of us who collect this genre of comic books. That’s a position I subscribe to Jayman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bronze johnny Posted March 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2022 On 3/25/2022 at 8:37 PM, Jayman said: No, and I remember your topic on classic designations. But this one seems so obvious that it’s just hard to believe it’s not already on the label. Maybe “Classic Zombie Kiss” would be better? The cover speaks for itself. This is a classic cover with no CGC designation (and it doesn’t need it): Jayman, Raze, fifties and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul © ® ⚽️💙™ Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 On 3/26/2022 at 10:19 PM, bronze johnny said: The cover speaks for itself. This is a classic cover with no CGC designation (and it doesn’t need it): I'm afraid the word 'classic' is bandied about these days like the word 'grail'. It's all subjective. ebay is full of books optimistically listed as 'classic' covers by their owners/sellers. Frankly it's over-used and it dilutes the real classic books IMO. This book for example....great cover sure...but classic? Not in my book. ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze johnny Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) On 3/26/2022 at 9:00 PM, G-G © ® ™ said: I'm afraid the word 'classic' is bandied about these days like the word 'grail'. It's all subjective. ebay is full of books optimistically listed as 'classic' covers by their owners/sellers. Frankly it's over-used and it dilutes the real classic books IMO. This book for example....great cover sure...but classic? Not in my book. Every seller that has a book listed is a “classic cover.” Agree with you that its overused. CDNP 27’s cover may not be a classic cover in your book but this Biro cover is in mine and has been in Overstreet’s for many years. There’s a consensus of collector’s who believe along with me that it’s a classic cover. That said, you don’t have to agree as there are some classic covers out there that I don’t care for myself. Edited March 27, 2022 by bronze johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul © ® ⚽️💙™ Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 4:03 AM, bronze johnny said: Every seller that has a book listed is a “classic cover.” Agree with you that its overused. CDNP 27’s cover may not be a classic cover in your book but this Biro cover is in mine and has been in Overstreet’s for many years. There’s a consensus of collector’s who believe along with me that it’s a classic cover. That said, you don’t have to agree as there are some classic covers out there that I don’t care for myself. I think it's pretty good, but don't see it as a 'classic' myself, but as I said it's all subjective. It is art after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze johnny Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 On 3/26/2022 at 11:24 PM, G-G © ® ™ said: I think it's pretty good, but don't see it as a 'classic' myself, but as I said it's all subjective. It is art after all. If it were all subjective then we wouldn’t have any consensus on what’s classic and what’s not. Still, there’s stuff out there where the consensus says it’s classic and I don’t care for it. We don’t have to always agree with the consensus. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul © ® ⚽️💙™ Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 4:29 AM, bronze johnny said: If it were all subjective then we wouldn’t have any consensus on what’s classic and what’s not. Still, there’s stuff out there where the consensus says it’s classic and I don’t care for it. We don’t have to always agree with the consensus. And I'm not. Concensus doesn't mean the majority are right, just that there is some agreement. There could be a multitude of reasons, similar or different, to form a concensus. But basically if someone thinks their book is a classic, then great, I'm happy for them. I own books that I think are definite classics to my mind, and I'm sure others would agree with my choices. Doesn't mean they are worthy of the designation. Overuse the term in an official capacity, and it becomes worthless, much like the term grail, which I find a pretty laughable term these days, seeing as it's been used as much as a pretty whore in a brothel for the last 20 years. Raze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bronze johnny Posted March 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2022 On 3/26/2022 at 11:43 PM, G-G © ® ™ said: And I'm not. Concensus doesn't mean the majority are right, just that there is some agreement. There could be a multitude of reasons, similar or different, to form a concensus. But basically if someone thinks their book is a classic, then great, I'm happy for them. I own books that I think are definite classics to my mind, and I'm sure others would agree with my choices. Doesn't mean they are worthy of the designation. Overuse the term in an official capacity, and it becomes worthless, much like the term grail, which I find a pretty laughable term these days, seeing as it's been used as much as a pretty whore in a brothel for the last 20 years. Do you agree with the consensus that this is a classic cover? goldust40, adamstrange, Raze and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul © ® ⚽️💙™ Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 12:24 PM, bronze johnny said: Do you agree with the consensus that this is a classic cover? I've had discussions over the years about this book. I have to admit it has grown on me. My main problem with it is that is a re-cycled image from WAR FURY # 1 as I'm sure you're aware, ergo not really an original cover in it's own right. Because it's an upside down image that has been flipped, the muscle tensions are wrong, however that kind of adds to it's charm. Because of it's story I guess it qualifies. It's so typical of Don Heck heads. I guess it deserves Classic status. ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...