Meeklo Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I saw it on a plane ride a few days ago. Nowhere near as bad as it was made to be. Clearly some editing/reshoots changed the original direction. Not terrible, not great. 2 stars out of 4 You may be in too much of a festive holiday mood…please ease up on the Egg Nog... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I saw it on a plane ride a few days ago. Nowhere near as bad as it was made to be. Clearly some editing/reshoots changed the original direction. Not terrible, not great. 2 stars out of 4 You may be in too much of a festive holiday mood…please ease up on the Egg Nog... I actually prefer it to either of the first 2 FF movies, so I think his review isn't that off. That said Doctor Doom was horrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WernerVonDoom Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Star Wars: The Force Awakens doubled FF's entire domestic gross on opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Star Wars: The Force Awakens doubled FF's entire domestic gross on opening day. Sad when you think at one time between 1961 to about 1995 the Fantastic Four were players. They slipped badly. They are having a bad transition to modern audiences. We can`t just say it`s Fox`s fault because their latest Planet of the Apes and X-Men franchises have hit home runs with the modern audience. It might take years for the FF franchise to rebound. Anybody have any suggestions to make FF relevant again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeklo Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Star Wars: The Force Awakens doubled FF's entire domestic gross on opening day. Sad when you think at one time between 1961 to about 1995 the Fantastic Four were players. They slipped badly. They are having a bad transition to modern audiences. We can`t just say it`s Fox`s fault because their latest Planet of the Apes and X-Men franchises have hit home runs with the modern audience. It might take years for the FF franchise to rebound. Anybody have any suggestions to make FF relevant again? Give it to Marvel? Honestly you could do almost anything to it and it would be better. Get Uwe Boll or Tommy Wiseau to direct and it will be phenomenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comicopolis Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Star Wars: The Force Awakens doubled FF's entire domestic gross on opening day. Sad when you think at one time between 1961 to about 1995 the Fantastic Four were players. They slipped badly. They are having a bad transition to modern audiences. We can`t just say it`s Fox`s fault because their latest Planet of the Apes and X-Men franchises have hit home runs with the modern audience. It might take years for the FF franchise to rebound. Anybody have any suggestions to make FF relevant again? Go back to the original comics, use those stories, and just update the plots for the modern age. Start the movie on Monster Island with the Mole Man as a contemporary eco terrorist, then show a bit of the origin story where the four of them are 'borrowing' the space ship for a trip to Mars before it goes horribly wrong, then bring in Dr Doom as fully formed character (his origin would be in the sequel) out for revenge on Reed Richards. Have one of those extra scenes after the credits that reveal that the Skrulls are already on earth and planning an invasion. In the sequel Doom and the FF team-up to defeat the Skrulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davenport Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Sad when you think at one time between 1961 to about 1995 the Fantastic Four were players. They slipped badly. They are having a bad transition to modern audiences. We can`t just say it`s Fox`s fault because their latest Planet of the Apes and X-Men franchises have hit home runs with the modern audience. It might take years for the FF franchise to rebound. Anybody have any suggestions to make FF relevant again? Do FF 100% CGI. Cartoony like Incredibles or photorealistic like some of that Final Fantasy eyecandy. A stretchy-guy is always going to seem silly in the real world. But animation done exceptionally well, the FF could own that space. While everyone else is zigging, zag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Go back to the original comics, use those stories, and just update the plots for the modern age. Start the movie on Monster Island with the Mole Man as a contemporary eco terrorist, then show a bit of the origin story where the four of them are 'borrowing' the space ship for a trip to Mars before it goes horribly wrong, then bring in Dr Doom as fully formed character (his origin would be in the sequel) out for revenge on Reed Richards. Have one of those extra scenes after the credits that reveal that the Skrulls are already on earth and planning an invasion. In the sequel Doom and the FF team-up to defeat the Skrulls. Although they could start off with a period piece like X-Men: First Class. That movie was great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Do FF 100% CGI. Cartoony like Incredibles or photorealistic like some of that Final Fantasy eyecandy. A stretchy-guy is always going to seem silly in the real world. But animation done exceptionally well, the FF could own that space. While everyone else is zigging, zag. Animated, but in Brad Bird-like hands. There have been a few animated TV shows with the Fantastic Four, and you can see how in the wrong hands it doesn't go over so well. I like the portrayal here. Not so much on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davenport Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Do FF 100% CGI. Cartoony like Incredibles or photorealistic like some of that Final Fantasy eyecandy. A stretchy-guy is always going to seem silly in the real world. But animation done exceptionally well, the FF could own that space. While everyone else is zigging, zag. Animated, but in Brad Bird-like hands. There have been a few animated TV shows with the Fantastic Four, and you can see how in the wrong hands it doesn't go over so well.For film I think they need to go photorealistic, cutting edge groundbreaking. A techno excellence wonder-to-behold jawdropper. Something that makes headlines technologically and gets butts in seats. Make it epic, galactic, pack it with that Jack Kirby cosmic chariots-of-the-gods stuff. Use the core material and blow people's minds with the grand-fantasy of it all. What it's meant to be. Surfer, Galactus, Skrulls, Doom, worlds, dimensions, POWER, spectacle. All of it. Put the "Fantastic" back in FF. Where anyone with a single geek-cell in their body has to go see for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 For film I think they would need to go photorealistic, cutting edge groundbreaking techno excellence wonder-to-behold jawdropper. Something that makes headlines technologically and gets butts in seats. Make it epic, galactic, pack it with that Jack Kirby cosmic chariots-of-the-gods stuff. Use the core material and blow people's minds with the grand-fantasy of it all. What it's meant to be. Surfer, Galactus, Skrulls, Doom, worlds, dimensions, POWER, spectacle. All of it. Put the "Fantastic" back in FF. Where anyone with a single geek-cell in their body has to go see for themselves. Totally agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageComics Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Anybody have any suggestions to make FF relevant again? Yes. Re release Chronicle and photoshop everyone's faces into FF characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageComics Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Do FF 100% CGI. Cartoony like Incredibles or photorealistic like some of that Final Fantasy eyecandy. A stretchy-guy is always going to seem silly in the real world. But animation done exceptionally well, the FF could own that space. While everyone else is zigging, zag. Animated, but in Brad Bird-like hands. There have been a few animated TV shows with the Fantastic Four, and you can see how in the wrong hands it doesn't go over so well.For film I think they need to go photorealistic, cutting edge groundbreaking. A techno excellence wonder-to-behold jawdropper. Something that makes headlines technologically and gets butts in seats. Make it epic, galactic, pack it with that Jack Kirby cosmic chariots-of-the-gods stuff. Use the core material and blow people's minds with the grand-fantasy of it all. What it's meant to be. Surfer, Galactus, Skrulls, Doom, worlds, dimensions, POWER, spectacle. All of it. Put the "Fantastic" back in FF. Where anyone with a single geek-cell in their body has to go see for themselves. Make Christopher Nolan want to do it. He's spectacular at working with a large ensemble cast. He can be the 'Neal Adams' of the FF movie world and resurrect a dying franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Surfer Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Sell it to Disney at a premium and lets get on with it. Is the issue that Fox refuses to sell or that Disney won't pay their asking price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Sell it to Disney at a premium and lets get on with it. Is the issue that Fox refuses to sell or that Disney won't pay their asking price? A poorly handled negotiation between the two companies. Galactus, Silver Surfer: News Article #1 (Fox attempts trade to retain Daredevil rights) News Article #2 (Fox holds characters back from Marvel). Though after seeing the Netflix Daredevil series, I am glad that part of the story turned out great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 This thread might end up getting more views than the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zosocane Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Not Chris Nolan. He will suck the humor, color and fun out of any FF film in an effort to make it realistic. FF is one franchise that needs lots of humor, color and fun for it to click on all cylinders. It really needs to look on the big screen like you're opening the pages of an early FF. It needs a really good director who understands the Lee-Kirby dynamic. And it needs a studio that truly wants to produce a really good, fun superhero movie. James Gunn would be the perfect director. Marvel would be the perfect studio. I suspect we will see a FF revival in the early 2020s with the rights hopefully migrating to Disney/Marvel. Disney is going to need a fresh franchise to plumb because audiences will be fatigued with Avengers, GOTG and the stand-alone heroes in 7 to 8 years' time. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageComics Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Not Chris Nolan. He will suck the humor, color and fun out of any FF film in an effort to make it realistic. FF is one franchise that needs lots of humor, color and fun for it to click on all cylinders. It really needs to look on the big screen like you're opening the pages of an early FF. It needs a really good director who understands the Lee-Kirby dynamic. And it needs a studio that truly wants to produce a really good, fun superhero movie. James Gunn would be the perfect director. Marvel would be the perfect studio. I suspect we will see a FF revival in the early 2020s with the rights hopefully migrating to Disney/Marvel. Disney is going to need a fresh franchise to plumb because audiences will be fatigued with Avengers, GOTG and the stand-alone heroes in 7 to 8 years' time. Fingers crossed. Yeah, good point. I think Nolan is terrific at making an epic ensemble movie but you're right on the humor dynamic. Come to think of it, Guardians was a perfect FF movie. I'm surprised I didn't realize that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLiamSturgess Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Not Chris Nolan. He will suck the humor, color and fun out of any FF film in an effort to make it realistic. FF is one franchise that needs lots of humor, color and fun for it to click on all cylinders. It really needs to look on the big screen like you're opening the pages of an early FF. It needs a really good director who understands the Lee-Kirby dynamic. And it needs a studio that truly wants to produce a really good, fun superhero movie. James Gunn would be the perfect director. Marvel would be the perfect studio. I suspect we will see a FF revival in the early 2020s with the rights hopefully migrating to Disney/Marvel. Disney is going to need a fresh franchise to plumb because audiences will be fatigued with Avengers, GOTG and the stand-alone heroes in 7 to 8 years' time. Fingers crossed. I'd agree with that timeline. There's no way Fox ever pulls it off at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
