woowoo Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Thanks rob. I did a lot of mail stuff in the 80s have few letters from Dave A. I had told him i just got a copy of Tec 27 from E.Gerber he told me he just bought a NM-Mint copy of 27 himself. 30 years later this guy i was getting mail from telling me the books he got is the Dentist. I was a Comic GEEK and feel more like one now i was talking to the Action 1 of the comic world back then and did not know it.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_react Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 But grades being equal, T27 will not surpass A1, ever, in my book. Except for four years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_707 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I don't buy into the "Tec #27 will NEVER pass Action #1" mantra. There was a time when people couldn't imagine Batman topping Superman in popularity and now, we're heading into a third consecutive decade of Batman's dominance. I'm only 25 and I come from a generation that has adored Batman, while many are either indifferent towards Superman, or worse, don't even like the character. Right now older generations, the ones who grew up many decades ago when Superman was held in much higher esteem, are the ones with the greatest spending power. Comic collecting is highly nostalgic-based, and it's no surprise to see collectors of those generations having very fond memories of Superman. Eventually, my generation will get older, come into greater spending power and they'll have to make a decision between two books that are already similar in value. To assume, often based on little more than the "that's how it's always been" and "the significance of being the first superhero" factors, that Action #1 will always remain number one is a bit short-sided IMO. Comparing one book's 9.0 to another's 9.2 will depend on a number of factors: eye appeal, PQ, state of preservation, venue of sale, other existing copies in similar or superior condition, timing, etc. But in the long run, from a simple Action #1 vs. Tec #27 standpoint, we may eventually see Tec #27 as the top book in our hobby. I'm 40, and I'd say Batman had already topped Superman by the time my generation reached comic-collecting age, but fairly recently. People just a few years older than I am dug the Christopher Reeve/Margot Kidder Superman movies. Those were Superman's last hurrah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peewee22 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 But grades being equal, T27 will not surpass A1, ever, in my book. Except for four years ago. Consistently we know who is number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Zombie Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'm 45. I consider this tec27 cgc 9.2 *much more* desirable than the action 1 cgc 9.0 sorry ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_react Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 But grades being equal, T27 will not surpass A1, ever, in my book. Except for four years ago. Consistently we know who is number 1. I agree that Action #1 has been the top book in the hobby, but you keep saying ever and right here you're saying "grades being equal" I'm just pointing out that the biggest week in the hobby's history saw a Detective 27 outsell an Action #1 in the same grade. That's just one exception to what you're saying, but it's one we really shouldn't ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peewee22 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'm 45. I consider this tec27 cgc 9.2 *much more* desirable than the action 1 cgc 9.0 sorry ... You only get one vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I've learned three things from this thread: (1) There's a new D27 in 9.2 on the CGC census; (2) Gator knows everything about it, wants to buy it, but is limited on what he can say here because of either non-disclosure agreements or good business practices in maintaining the confidentiality of his sources and conversations; and (3) the Batman vs. Superman debate is eternal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eman13 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 There is only one logical explanation for this, someone has created a time machine, traveled back in time, purchased the Detective 27, and returned to our time. did he lend it to Adams first for the action 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregreece Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) I'm 45. I consider this tec27 cgc 9.2 *much more* desirable than the action 1 cgc 9.0 sorry ... 51 and +1 Edited September 1, 2014 by gregreece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicdonna Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'm 45. I consider this tec27 cgc 9.2 *much more* desirable than the action 1 cgc 9.0 sorry ... 51 and +1 50 and -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine48 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Could some one fill me in on this MISSING!? Copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy-D Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'm 45. I consider this tec27 cgc 9.2 *much more* desirable than the action 1 cgc 9.0 sorry ... 51 and +1 50 and -1 42 and -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeanius Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'm 45. I consider this tec27 cgc 9.2 *much more* desirable than the action 1 cgc 9.0 sorry ... 51 and +1 50 and -1 42 and -1 39 and +1 Given a choice, I'd much rather own 'Tec 27, and it's not very close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eman13 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'm 45. I consider this tec27 cgc 9.2 *much more* desirable than the action 1 cgc 9.0 sorry ... 51 and +1 50 and -1 42 and -1 39 and +1 48 and -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markseifert Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 But grades being equal, T27 will not surpass A1, ever, in my book. Except for four years ago. Consistently we know who is number 1. I agree that Action #1 has been the top book in the hobby, but you keep saying ever and right here you're saying "grades being equal" I'm just pointing out that the biggest week in the hobby's history saw a Detective 27 outsell an Action #1 in the same grade. That's just one exception to what you're saying, but it's one we really shouldn't ignore. Yep. And there are other recent comparison points that suggest that Tec 27 has at least a debate-worthy claim on the top spot. Here are 6 of the top 11 all-time confirmed sales on Rob's list: Detective Comics 27 CGC 8.0 2010/02/25 $1,075,000.00 Action Comics 1 CGC 8.0 2010/02/22 $1,000,000.00 Action Comics 1 CGC 6.5 2011/06/01 $625,000.00 Action Comics 1 CGC 6.5 2010/08/01 $575,000.00 Detective Comics 27 CGC 6.0 2010/04/01 $575,000.00 Detective Comics 27 CGC 6.5 2013/02/23 $567,625.00 I'm cherry picking, obviously, but still... 6 of the top 11 (publicly known) sales, ever. Can you say definitively from that data that Action 1 is the clear-cut winner? I think probably you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny U Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Action 1 over Tec 27 for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunsicker Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'm 45. I consider this tec27 cgc 9.2 *much more* desirable than the action 1 cgc 9.0 sorry ... 51 and +1 50 and -1 42 and -1 39 and +1 48 and -1 +1 (that is for 48 and -1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechip Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) There is only one logical explanation for this, someone has created a time machine, traveled back in time, purchased the Detective 27, and returned to our time. If this is the "Windy City" copy I had a chance to buy this and wanted to but didn't simply because work got in the way and communication with the seller was a little off-putting (I was hearing about it from him as well as from several other people who were telling me of a "better" book which I realized later was actually the same book which they were apparently going to buy from the seller and then resell to me. The prices quoted ranged literally, from 43K to 125K. The guy who actually had it quoted me a price toward the lower side and I was interested but then he sold it without telling me (for a price below what I was prepared to pay). When I asked him why he said that he hadn't paid for the book in full and was worried because he was told by others that "nobody wanted it." Can't tell you how many times I have heard that the "word" on this book or that was "nobody wants it" only to hear later that "everybody wants it". Edited September 1, 2014 by bluechip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...