Wonder Woman official movie thread (6/23/17) 6 6

[Bosco685]

18 minutes ago, drotto said:

WW proves a few things to me

 

 

1. People are perfectly accepting of female heroes.

2. DC can make movies both critics and fans like.

3. Make a good movie and the box office will reflect that.  To me WW is proof that a marginal to bad movie with SS and BvS absolutely had a negative affect on box office.

4. Marvel fans are capable of liking DC movies.

5. Super Hero fatigue will happen, but can be greatly delayed by producing good original films.

Critics and fans didn't like Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises? Or did you mean DCEU?

[Bosco685]

Large theater losses this weekend due to all the new movies. Yet the assumption is still positive results.

Box Office: 'Wonder Woman' Just Passed 'Batman V Superman'

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As noted in the headline, Wonder Woman is now the biggest-grossing DC Films release in North America as of yesterday. The Gal Gadot/Chris Pine adventure earned another $2.685 million yesterday, down 3% from yesterday and 33% from last Thursday. That brings the film's domestic total, after exactly four weeks in theaters, to $330.533m, or just above the $330.366m cume of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.

 

So, in just under a month of play, the Patty Jenkins film has passed Man of Steel, Suicide Squad and Batman v Superman. That's incredibly impressive, especially when you consider that Wonder Woman had an opening weekend 37% smaller than Dawn of Justice, 22% smaller than Suicide Squad and 20% smaller than Man of Steel.

 

And with $675 million worldwide as of Wednesday and a new total of at least $677.7m worldwide heading into the weekend, it is A) past Doctor Strange's worldwide cume ($677.7m) and B) poised to top the magic $700m mark presumably sometime this weekend. But this is the first weekend where it will face two major challenges. First, it's going to lose 529 theaters today, its first major screen bleed since it opened.

 

The other issue is that this is arguably the first weekend where Wonder Woman will have new competition with the whole "live action multiplex newbie that is halfway decent" thing. Baby Driver has earned superlative reviews, and it's doing just a little better than we dared hope over its first two days. And while The Beguiled is in less than 600 theaters, it's something for moviegoers who want to see a movie that isn't a recycled franchise offering and isn't a critically-panned musical biopic.

Can it make it to $800MM?

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Japan is a huge question mark - one that won't be answered until late August. But we can probably safely guess/hope that Wonder Woman makes it awfully close to the $755-$758 million worldwide grosses of The Hunger Games: Mockingjay part I, The Amazing Spider-Man and Maleficent (with a -ton more "breakout sequel" potential for the next round) if not closer to $775m. If it makes it to $380m domestic and plays 49/51, then it gets to $775m or just between Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool.

 

[paperheart]

1 hour ago, drotto said:

WW proves a few things to me

 

 

1. People are perfectly accepting of female heroes.

2. DC can make movies both critics and fans like.

3. Make a good movie and the box office will reflect that.  To me WW is proof that a marginal to bad movie with SS and BvS absolutely had a negative affect on box office.

4. Marvel fans are capable of liking DC movies.

5. Super Hero fatigue will happen, but can be greatly delayed by producing good original films.

not sure the #'s bear out on this one.  Without $90MM from China, WW doesn't come close to passing SS worldwide

Edited June 30, 2017 by paperheart

[drotto]

1 hour ago, Bosco685 said:

Critics and fans didn't like Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises? Or did you mean DCEU?

Ment the DCEU.  Nolan has (and DC) made it clear that his Batman is its own thing.

[Bosco685]

1 hour ago, paperheart said:

not sure the #'s bear out on this one.  Without $90MM from China, WW doesn't come close to passing SS worldwide

It definitely hurts progress when Arabic countries block the movie because of Gal Gadot's heritage.

Wonder Woman Is Now Banned In Qatar

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Wonder Woman is still doing quite well at the box office, but there will now be one more region that will not add to its bottom line.

 

That would be the country of Qatar, which has now banned Wonder Woman from airing in its theaters. Qatar joins Lebanon and Tunisia in banning the film, all because the lead actress is Israeli.

Plus lower numbers because the lead is a woman from regions that are more male-dominated.

[Bosco685]

Box Office Mojo started a DCEU comparison chart while tracking Wonder Woman progress.

 

 

It is interesting to see how Wonder Woman achieved the domestic box office results it has starting out with the lowest theater distribution count of the four movies (BvS had 91 more theaters), lowest opening weekend, and yet achieved what it has in 28 days that took the other three movies 84 to 98 days. And that opening weekend only contributes 31.2% of the current domestic total, demonstrating how word-of-mouth helped pick up speed afterwards.

[Gatsby77]

20 hours ago, Straw-Man said:

good that it passed b v.s; in a mile race, it laps that movie.

It hasn't yet. In real (i.e., inflation-adjusted terms), has to hit $339-$340 million domestic.

Which it wil, maybe by the end of today.

I'm just excited that a good movie is being rewarded over two woefully mediocre missed opportunities.

And I'm less concerned about international totals because domestic dollars count about twice as much as international ones (in terms of studio take).

[Bosco685]

FORBES.COM: 'Wonder Woman' To Top $700 Million This Weekend

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The film is on pace to finish somewhere between between $705-710 million by close of business Sunday.  This will be only the fifth weekend of release, so its box office performance is an impressive feat. These numbers now ensure (barring some bizarre and highly unlikely calamity) a final cume between a low-end figure of $750+ million and a high-end of $800 million.

 

With around $675 million worldwide in the tank through Thursday and a likely $30-35 million coming in this weekend from all global markets, even if the weekly declines rise into the 40-50% range, Wonder Woman is still adding tens of millions to its cume for several more weeks from existing markets before it opens in Japan in August. That's already enough to push it well past $750 million. So declines in the 30-35% range (rather than the 40-50% range), plus a good performance in Japan, would start to make $800 million a realistic possibility.

 

Every week brings new cause for celebration for the folks at Warner Bros., for Patty Jenkins and Gal Gadot, and for everyone associated Wonder Woman. This week, however, the numbers are providing a clearer long-term outcome that brings a whole new level of reasons to celebration. And if by July 16 the film sits north of $760+ million, then hold onto your hats, because that $800 million figure will start to appear inevitable.

 

[Bosco685]

5 minutes ago, Gatsby77 said:

And I'm less concerned about international totals because domestic dollars count about twice as much as international ones (in terms of studio take).

- Average 50% domestic

- Average 40% international

- Average 25% China

[Bosco685]

[Gatsby77]

27 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

- Average 50% domestic

- Average 40% international

- Average 25% China

Not quite -- Domestic is closer to 66%.

Usual studio take is 60%-70% for the first two weeks, 30-40% thereafter (so, average of 66-33 -- which would net to about 50%. But for the exponential drop-off after the first two weeks -- where films make a huge portion of their overall take).

So it's more like 66% domestic, 33% international, 25% China.

[paperheart]

5 minutes ago, Gatsby77 said:

Not quite -- Domestic is closer to 66%.

Usual studio take is 60%-70% for the first two weeks, 30-40% thereafter (so, average of 66-33 -- which would net to about 50%. But for the exponential drop-off after the first two weeks -- where films make a huge portion of their overall take).

So it's more like 66% domestic, 33% international, 25% China.

no, Deadline uses 50/40/25 as quoted above. i'll take their word for it

[Bosco685]

8 minutes ago, Gatsby77 said:

Not quite -- Domestic is closer to 66%.

Usual studio take is 60%-70% for the first two weeks, 30-40% thereafter (so, average of 66-33 -- which would net to about 50%. But for the exponential drop-off after the first two weeks -- where films make a huge portion of their overall take).

So it's more like 66% domestic, 33% international, 25% China.

Domestic at 50% has been the norm for a while now.

What puts more pressure on the studios to think different from your take on things is the extensive growth category is the International Box Office - not the Domestic Box Office. So they may have a bigger cut of the revenue in the smaller market. It's still the smaller market. Check out the newest report from this year where the MPAA noted the growth up to 2016.

[Bosco685]

Edited July 1, 2017 by Bosco685

[Bosco685]

The new DCEU movie intro which was used at the beginning of Wonder Woman has finally been released in HD format.

 

[comicjack]

9 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

I think that guy is going to make a great Spidey

[Bosco685]

Wonder Woman’s Secret Native American God Explained

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It’s finally official: Wonder Woman may have been based around the Greek Gods of Olympus, but the movie also introduced a Native American demi-god to the DCEU, too. He may seem like a man of few words, but Chief is no man at all: he’s the Blackfoot demi-god ‘Napi.’

 

It was a moment of dignity for indigenous viewers when actor Eugene Brave Rock’s ‘Chief’ appeared in Wonder Woman to begin with, revealed as Steve Trevor’s smuggler friend selling goods to both sides of the war. But when he introduced himself to Diana with a traditional Blackfoot greeting, calling himself ‘Napi,’ those who spoke his language took the real meaning.

 

He was no ordinary man, but Napi – also known as Old Man among the Blackfoot, a trickster god who is also famous as the world’s Creator. He’s a touchstone figure throughout most Native American traditions, known by names like Coyote, Nanabozho, and Gluzkap, among others. It was unclear at first if the name was simply a loving touch from Brave Rock himself, or a joke to himself and between he and Diana.

 

As he explains in the movie, ‘His People’ in America had been wiped out by that time by Steve’s. And while Diana interprets his intentions as merely profit (which he doesn’t correct), he is only seen refusing payment later. In other words, Napi has traveled to Europe, now providing sustenance for the victimized, displaced, and enslaved. While also battling those who seek to commit these crimes in an alliance of American, European, and African nations.

New Gods!

[Bosco685]

[Bosco685]

FORBES.COM Box Office: 'Wonder Woman' Soars Past $700 Million Worldwide

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First, the domestic update. Wonder Woman earned another $15.575M in its fifth weekend of release, falling just 37% despite losing over 529 theaters and despite some pretty stiff competition in the form of Baby Driver and Despicable Me 3.  That's the 15th-largest fifth weekend of all time, which isn't a record of any sort but still puts it in the company of Jurassic World, Frozen and The Sixth Sense among others. It's a bigger fifth weekend than Spider-Man, but not Guardians of the Galaxy (which had a holiday boost).

The film has now earned $346.1M in 31 days of domestic release. Wonder Woman is still racing toward a $380M+ domestic total, meaning it will be neck-and-neck with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 ($383M after this weekend with maybe $5m left in the tank). And once it passes Deadpool ($363M in 2D and with an R-rating), it'll be the second-biggest origin story/non-sequel comic book superhero movie ever after Spider-Man ($403M back in 2002).

In terms of worldwide grosses, the film made it over the $700M worldwide milestone this weekend. The film has now earned $707.9M worldwide, just below Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales ($708M after a $9.2m two-day opening in Japan), The Amazing Spider-Man 2 ($709M), Dawn of the Planet of the Apes ($710M) and Captain America: The Winter Soldier ($714M). The $150M picture has now earned 4.71x its budget with more than a little gas left in the tank.

 

It opens in Japan in August, and that one should be a real wild card. Maleficent made $67M in Japan while Frozen made $249M. And this point, it's an all-but-sure thing to pass the $745M global cume of Suicide Squad (which didn't play in China) and the $757M cume of The Amazing Spider-Man.

[Straw-Man]

superb movie deserves every watermark it hits.