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A.K.A. Jessica Jones on Netflix (11/20/15)
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What happened to Cage?

 

Didn't we see on-set photos of him filming like 7-8 months ago? Has that been pushed back until after Iron Fist & Defenders too? Or is it set for later this year?

 

(as in, are the two series for 2016 Daredevil season 2 (released) and Cage (to be released soon))?

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What happened to Cage?

 

Didn't we see on-set photos of him filming like 7-8 months ago? Has that been pushed back until after Iron Fist & Defenders too? Or is it set for later this year?

 

(as in, are the two series for 2016 Daredevil season 2 (released) and Cage (to be released soon))?

 

Check the Luke Cage thread. A new trailer was just released.

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Yes. Marvel & Netflix, according to everything they've said publicly, at least up thru Defenders, are going to be sticking with their current 2-per-year release schedule. Defenders is likely late 2017 & Iron Fist early 2017. Now, that might change after Defenders, but from everything they've said in interviews (both Loeb and the spokespeople from Netflix) is that they have no intention of going beyond 2-per-year thru 2017.

 

Now, that of course might change.

 

And it's pretty obvious that phase 2 of the Marvel Knights/Defenders/Neftlix stuff is GOING to require an accelerated release schedule to satisfy the actors (they don't wanna sit around and doing nothing while they wait for THEIR series to get back into production) especially since they've expanded the line with Punisher, likely going to expand it to Moon Knight and/or Daughters of the Dragon (depending on the reception of Misty and Colleen in Luke Cage & Iron Fist, respectively) and probably going to need to start merging currently-solo series into team-up series (Luke/Danny/JJ in a Heroes for Hire show most likely) otherwise, there's going to be too much of a gap between seasons & they might lose their momentum as they expand.

 

But as of now, yes... 2 or 3 of those series are definitely not until 2018.

That really sucks. I was hoping to see DD 3 next year. The fact that they're only having an 8 episode Defenders season 1 & skipping over most of the other series next seasons isn't very comforting. Sure, they could merge JJ, LK & IF into a Hero for Hire series to make things run more smoothly but pushing DD & Punisher back is really disappointing.

 

They were never "pushed back". They never had release info at all. Remember, there was never initially a plan for there to even BE a Season 2 of anything until after Defenders. Defenders, Luke Cage & Iron Fist were all pushed back to get DD S2 out because of the demand. It was only supposed to be 4 13-episode seasons & then Defenders. Somewhere between 58-60 hours of content was the initial contract. That whole plan got shot to heck once demand for a 2nd season of DD happened.

 

But from its inception & Netflix ordering the series, Punisher was never going to be released before Defenders. He might have been IN Defenders, but his solo series was never happening before Defenders. And once JJ got a 2nd season, but Netflix didn't want to increase to a 3 or 4 series-per-year release model, Marvel basically had to decide if they were scrapping Defenders or Iron Fist (since they were the only 2 that hadn't really "started" yet) or if they were going to have to live with a 2 year gap between next seasons for DD & JJ. They opted for the latter.

 

If you want to complain to anyone, complain to Netflix. They're the ones that don't want to increase their frequency of release for the Marvel TV stuff. But for the time being, if they're only releasing 2 series per year & want to actually GET to Defenders in this decade, while still adding new series, something's gotta give. And some series are going to have extra year gaps between release.

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Did anyone else find Jessica Jones a little boring?

 

Almost like they are trying to stretch out a thin story?

 

I'm about halfway through and feel this way.

 

Maybe DD was more acceptable because I kind of knew where they were going with it?

 

So far not very impressed with JJ, although I do find Kilgrave creepy as heck.

 

I think what a lot of people dont realize, is that JJ is a completely different genre. If one goes to watch expecting it to be more Daredevil with a different lead, then it could come across as boring. It is absolutely NOT an Action genre show.

 

It is a psychological thriller/serial killer genre show. Part of what they want to do, is have their movies and shows cover all genres, and do them well, each in its own arena.

 

JJ is a very intellectually complex show about control, abuse, trauma, healing, etc. There is a ton going on in what comes across as 'slow' when its being viewed as an analog to Daredevil. Honestly, I think a University Film department could do an entire course on JJ and its themes. It's a superbly made and acted show, but definitely not a sit back and watch the action happen type.

 

Luke Cage from what I have read is going to also be entirely different (from JJ and DD) in how it approaches its action beats as well. A lot more people getting obliterated then JJ, which should make it "exciting", but far less complex choreographed sets(a la DD) and more just steamrolling through stuff.

 

I would wager IronFist goes full in for a Bruce Lee Kung-Fu movie feel. It should be the most similar to Daredevil in terms of action.

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Perfect timing!

 

Showrunner Melissa Rosenberg Teases JESSICA JONES Season 2 And THE DEFENDERS

 

While the first season drew heavily from "Alias" by Brian Michael Bendis and Michael Gaydos, the second season will strike out on its own, introducing some new supporting characters. "[There will be] some new characters that are only interesting in how they relate to our existing characters," said Rosenberg. "We can really get into some very interesting aspects of their characters and where they're from, where they're going, all these things. I'm super excited about that." In terms of a baddie, Rosenberg stopped short of revealing anything, but confirmed that the show won't be trying to replicate David Tennant's villainous Kilgrave. "David Tennant's [Kilgrave], we'll never create that again. That is one of the great iconic characters played by a profoundly talented actor. The objective is not to match that, not to try to do that again," Rosenberg said.

 

One supporting character in particular, Trish "Patsy" Walker, has a rich history in the comic books. When asked if Trish would be suiting up as Hellcat in the upcoming season, Rosenberg would neither confirm nor deny the possibility. "[There's] always the promise," Rosenberg said. "I mean, for me, the character of Trish is so rich, Hellcat or not. She's already bad-. What's most interesting to me is their relationship. You know, that friendship, that sisterhood. That's the core of the show. That's the core relationship of the show."

 

Rosenberg also has the task of making sure the second season flows well, both from season 1's events, and also into the upcoming Defenders crossover as well. "What's nice for us over on our side of the hall, is if we think -- we're still shaping what we want to do, but we're like, maybe we can set them up over in The Defenders, let's go talk to [Defenders showrunners] Doug [Petrie] and Marco [Ramirez], and we're like, 'Hey, what do you think about this?'"

 

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Did anyone else find Jessica Jones a little boring?

 

Almost like they are trying to stretch out a thin story?

 

I'm about halfway through and feel this way.

 

Maybe DD was more acceptable because I kind of knew where they were going with it?

 

So far not very impressed with JJ, although I do find Kilgrave creepy as heck.

 

I think what a lot of people dont realize, is that JJ is a completely different genre. If one goes to watch expecting it to be more Daredevil with a different lead, then it could come across as boring. It is absolutely NOT an Action genre show.

 

It is a psychological thriller/serial killer genre show. Part of what they want to do, is have their movies and shows cover all genres, and do them well, each in its own arena.

 

JJ is a very intellectually complex show about control, abuse, trauma, healing, etc. There is a ton going on in what comes across as 'slow' when its being viewed as an analog to Daredevil. Honestly, I think a University Film department could do an entire course on JJ and its themes. It's a superbly made and acted show, but definitely not a sit back and watch the action happen type.

 

Luke Cage from what I have read is going to also be entirely different (from JJ and DD) in how it approaches its action beats as well. A lot more people getting obliterated then JJ, which should make it "exciting", but far less complex choreographed sets(a la DD) and more just steamrolling through stuff.

 

I would wager IronFist goes full in for a Bruce Lee Kung-Fu movie feel. It should be the most similar to Daredevil in terms of action.

 

I wasn't comparing it to a Daredevil action flick.

 

I'm also aware that it's supposed to be creepy, etc. The capture a lot of that, from the opening musical theme to the softcore gore to Kilgrave's character.

 

There's enough sexuality in it to almost make it like a soft core porn film (although it was kind of cool to try and see how two superhumans would go at it), but I always just see sexuality in comics as cotton candy for fanboys...much like all the bikinies in Suicide Squad.

 

And some of the acting isn't the greatest (not loving GI Joe).

 

And I guess part of it is that I'm not very familiar with the Jessica Jones character and don't find the show very enticing.

 

 

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2016 Hugo Awards Winners Announced

 

The 2016 Hugo Awards Ceremony was held last night at the World Science Fiction Convention, a.k.a. MidAmeriCon II, in Kansas City, Missouri. The Hugo Awards are considered by many to be the Academy Awards of the science fiction and fantasy genre, with awards categories spanning novels, television and film, and fanzines and podcasts. Winners are voted on by members of the convention.

 

Neil Gaiman and J.H. Williams III's The Sandman: Overture, a prequel to Gaiman’s award-winning Vertigo Comics series, took this year’s Hugo Award for “Best Graphic Story.” The Marvel’s Jessica Jones Season 1 finale episode, “AKA Smile,” won for “Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form,” beating frequent Hugo Award nominee and six-time Hugo Award-winning series Doctor Who.

 

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The thing I find most interesting about the future of it, and what they will end up doing in season 2. They will keep some of the tone and the vibe from the first season, in terms of the character, alias investigations, etc, but they will have lost the serial killer/silence of the lambs type portion of it.

 

Assuming they do "The Pulse" as the next logical step forward for both Jessica and Luke, (spoilers if you look up what that means), I wonder what sort of villain they would graft on to it.

 

I could also see them maybe merging some of the shows. As they keep adding properties like Punisher, etc, to the roster of shows requiring multiple seasons, i think you almost start see some of the characters grouping together post Defenders.

 

Luke & Jessica, or Cage & Iron Fist, could definitely see some crossovers to prevent having to do a season every year of every show to keep it rolling.

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I still expect that JJ Season 2 ends up as a mostly-team-up season with Luke & Danny, and that at the end of it, Alias Investigations changes its name to Heroes for Hire & season "3" of JJ, as well as season 2 of both IF & LC end up merged into a HfH series. It makes the most sense.

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Just finished it. Found it predictable and full of holes with lots of shallow plot devices to keep the story moving along. It felt like a mid- Saturday afternoon, 1970's B horror flick.

 

Personally, if you have nothing better to watch it's a comic book show on par with other shows but it's nothing terrific and I wouldn't recommend watching it if you have something better to do.

 

Daredevil was far superior in quality to this.

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Just finished it. Found it predictable and full of holes with lots of shallow plot devices to keep the story moving along. It felt like a mid- Saturday afternoon, 1970's B horror flick.

 

Personally, if you have nothing better to watch it's a comic book show on par with other shows but it's nothing terrific and I wouldn't recommend watching it if you have something better to do.

 

Daredevil was far superior in quality to this.

 

What a buzz kill, dude. :(

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It was like watching the Walking Dead in later episodes, where people would make dumb mistakes just to keep the plot going.

 

And there were inconsistencies within the story that I felt took away from making it believable.

 

For example, it's no secret now that Nitro and Luke Case are in the story, but

 

 

in some of the fights there is no consistency between strength differences. For example, Jessica knocks out Luke Case multiple times when he's possessed by Kilgrave ( doh! ) but gets taken down by Nitro who is basically just a temporarily enhanced human.

 

 

I tried hard to like it but didn't.

 

Also, I felt Jessica could have stopped Kilgrave several times throughout the show.

 

Does anyone else agree?

 

 

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It was like watching the Walking Dead in later episodes, where people would make dumb mistakes just to keep the plot going.

 

And there were inconsistencies within the story that I felt took away from making it believable.

 

For example, it's no secret now that Nitro and Luke Case are in the story, but

 

 

in some of the fights there is no consistency between strength differences. For example, Jessica knocks out Luke Case multiple times when he's possessed by Kilgrave ( doh! ) but gets taken down by Nitro who is basically just a temporarily enhanced human.

 

 

I tried hard to like it but didn't.

 

Also, I felt Jessica could have stopped Kilgrave several times throughout the show.

 

Does anyone else agree?

 

Yes. I tried hard to like it and even got as far as 8 episodes or so. Haven't watched in over a month and don't plan to go back. Stranger Things took its place!

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Also, I felt Jessica could have stopped Kilgrave several times throughout the show.

 

Does anyone else agree?

 

Stopped Kilgrave? Sure, there were a few chances to do that. Unfortunately, taking one of those chances would have meant that Hope would be spending life behind bars for the murder of her parents. Saving Hope from Kilgrave was Jessica's motivation for most of the series, not stopping Kilgrave. And that meant playing cat-and-mouse with Kilgrave until she could publicly expose just what he and his powers were capable of making people do.

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Marvel's Jessica Jones Wins Creative Arts Emmy Award

 

Jessica Jones has already won a Peabody Award and a Hugo Award, and as of last night’s Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards ceremony, it can now be called an Emmy-winning series.

 

Specifically, Sean Callery was awarded the Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Award for Outstanding Main Title Theme Music. Jessica Jones beat out the title theme music for fellow nominees Narcos, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, The Whispers, Sense8, and The Night Manager.

 

 

Jessica Jones was also nominated for Outstanding Main Title Design. That category was won by Amazon’s The Man in the High Castle.

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JESSICA JONES Showrunner Gives Update On Season 2

 

Across 13 episodes in season 1, Jessica Jones ultimately found the strength to confront her tormentor and take him down for good in the season finale. However, showrunner Melissa Rosenberg promises that just because Killgrave is gone, it doesn't mean that Jessica will suddenly be cured of all of her personal demons. "I learned from working on Dexter that you can advance the character, but you never want to cure the character. With Dexter, the moment he felt guilt or accepted that he was 'bad,' the show's over. He's no longer a sociopath. The equivalent for us would be if Jessica somehow recovered from the damage that had been done to her. People don't just heal, you don't go through that just to say, 'Oh, he got arrested, he's in jail, I'm OK now. ' That trauma is a huge part of who she is now."

 

Rosenberg went on to add that the coping skills Jessica used to stay away from Purple Man (drinking, fleeing her problems) will begin to crumble without his ever looming presence. She's currently in the writers room right now with the rest of her team and she says they're about halfway through the second season.

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