Spider-Gwen - Jason Latour and Robbie Rodriguez 0

[gclicon]

YES

retail exclusives, skottie youngs, incentives ALL count towards Comichrons number...

 

ONLY regular covers count towards incentives

 

No, you are incorrect here. Diamond does not report print runs for variants.

So this is the crux of the discussion, then. Is the 254K regular covers only, or is it all copies shipped through Diamond?

 

If it's regular covers only, I suspect Jay's number is near correct, and indeed international numbers and small store orders are a wash.

 

If it's all covers, there's a huge chunk of books in the 254K that don't qualify for the 1:100s, and carcrawford's number is likely close.

 

It is the regular covers only. Diamond *does not* report print runs for variants.

 

I refer you back to recalledcomics.com which features multiple books with ballparked print run numbers that are premised on the regular cover orders for several dealer incentive variants (EoSV #2 being one of them as well now).

 

-J.

 

You, sir....are insane. I gave you links that explain it, Larry (a rather large retailer who actually produces store retailers), and other boardies have told you these numbers are included in the Comichron numbers. Your only argument is based on a random website that just divides the print run by the odds on the variant. That is some serious science involved in that. No one said anything about Diamond disclosing print runs for variants and I have no idea why that is one of your talking points. We are trying to tell you that the 20-25 retailers who ordered store exclusives/phantom variants/ghost variants/etc. are INCLUDED in the print run for that book in the month. These are accounts that are serviced by and produced by Diamond and ship to the retailers from Diamond. I am done talking about this because it is like talking to a brick wall. I would hope that you would do some more research and stop spreading misinformation.

 

 

And again, you are still wrong.

 

NO variant print runs are disclosed by diamond. Zero. Zilch. Nada. None. Nothing.

 

That being the case, there is NO WAY for the print runs of the variants to be included in the comichron total. What you are seeing is the regular cover ONLY. Nothing you have linked to states otherwise and the reason you are unable to provide any applicable links is because you are wrong. First you tried to tell people this thing only had 500 copies. Now you're saying 1250. Clearly, you do not know what you are talking about, so maybe you should stop talking.

 

And It does not matter what "kind" of variant it is, or who ordered it.

 

THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED.

 

For you to say otherwise is an outright lie. I'm sure you're just trying to make a buck, but I would suggest you try doing so without attempting to deceive the participants on these boards.

 

And yes, recalledcomics.com is a well respected site. I'm sorry if ALL of the information on there disagrees with everything you are trying to say here as well, but it is what it is.

 

*I apologize to the other readers of this post if I seem rather inflamed. But this guy really needs to just quit. His motives are just too transparent.

 

-J.

 

Wait... so you're telling me I can't read? That on the Cominchron Feb 2015 figs page it doesn't say "Items marked with daggers [†] include orders of more than 350,000 copies from Loot Crate." I'm pretty sure that means that the number includes the number of loot crate variants printed.

[500Club]

YES

retail exclusives, skottie youngs, incentives ALL count towards Comichrons number...

 

ONLY regular covers count towards incentives

 

No, you are incorrect here. Diamond does not report print runs for variants.

So this is the crux of the discussion, then. Is the 254K regular covers only, or is it all copies shipped through Diamond?

 

If it's regular covers only, I suspect Jay's number is near correct, and indeed international numbers and small store orders are a wash.

 

If it's all covers, there's a huge chunk of books in the 254K that don't qualify for the 1:100s, and carcrawford's number is likely close.

 

It is the regular covers only. Diamond *does not* report print runs for variants.

You can't absolutely infer the first fact from the second, though.

 

Diamond could still include these books in the total, and yet still have a policy of not reporting individual variant print runs.

[Jaydogrules]

YES

retail exclusives, skottie youngs, incentives ALL count towards Comichrons number...

 

ONLY regular covers count towards incentives

 

No, you are incorrect here. Diamond does not report print runs for variants.

So this is the crux of the discussion, then. Is the 254K regular covers only, or is it all copies shipped through Diamond?

 

If it's regular covers only, I suspect Jay's number is near correct, and indeed international numbers and small store orders are a wash.

 

If it's all covers, there's a huge chunk of books in the 254K that don't qualify for the 1:100s, and carcrawford's number is likely close.

 

It is the regular covers only. Diamond *does not* report print runs for variants.

 

I refer you back to recalledcomics.com which features multiple books with ballparked print run numbers that are premised on the regular cover orders for several dealer incentive variants (EoSV #2 being one of them as well now).

 

-J.

 

You, sir....are insane. I gave you links that explain it, Larry (a rather large retailer who actually produces store retailers), and other boardies have told you these numbers are included in the Comichron numbers. Your only argument is based on a random website that just divides the print run by the odds on the variant. That is some serious science involved in that. No one said anything about Diamond disclosing print runs for variants and I have no idea why that is one of your talking points. We are trying to tell you that the 20-25 retailers who ordered store exclusives/phantom variants/ghost variants/etc. are INCLUDED in the print run for that book in the month. These are accounts that are serviced by and produced by Diamond and ship to the retailers from Diamond. I am done talking about this because it is like talking to a brick wall. I would hope that you would do some more research and stop spreading misinformation.

 

 

And again, you are still wrong.

 

NO variant print runs are disclosed by diamond. Zero. Zilch. Nada. None. Nothing.

 

That being the case, there is NO WAY for the print runs of the variants to be included in the comichron total. What you are seeing is the regular cover ONLY. Nothing you have linked to states otherwise and the reason you are unable to provide any applicable links is because you are wrong. First you tried to tell people this thing only had 500 copies. Now you're saying 1250. Clearly, you do not know what you are talking about, so maybe you should stop talking.

 

And It does not matter what "kind" of variant it is, or who ordered it.

 

THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED.

 

For you to say otherwise is an outright lie. I'm sure you're just trying to make a buck, but I would suggest you try doing so without attempting to deceive the participants on these boards.

 

And yes, recalledcomics.com is a well respected site. I'm sorry if ALL of the information on there disagrees with everything you are trying to say here as well, but it is what it is.

 

*I apologize to the other readers of this post if I seem rather inflamed. But this guy really needs to just quit. His motives are just too transparent.

 

-J.

 

Wait... so you're telling me I can't read? That on the Cominchron Feb 2015 figs page it doesn't say "Items marked with daggers [†] include orders of more than 350,000 copies from Loot Crate." I'm pretty sure that means that the number includes the number of loot crate variants printed.

 

Spider Gwen #1 did not have a loot crate order. There is a reason those are always asterisked. (thumbs u

 

-J.

[Jaydogrules]

YES

retail exclusives, skottie youngs, incentives ALL count towards Comichrons number...

 

ONLY regular covers count towards incentives

 

No, you are incorrect here. Diamond does not report print runs for variants.

So this is the crux of the discussion, then. Is the 254K regular covers only, or is it all copies shipped through Diamond?

 

If it's regular covers only, I suspect Jay's number is near correct, and indeed international numbers and small store orders are a wash.

 

If it's all covers, there's a huge chunk of books in the 254K that don't qualify for the 1:100s, and carcrawford's number is likely close.

 

It is the regular covers only. Diamond *does not* report print runs for variants.

You can't absolutely infer the first fact from the second, though.

 

Diamond could still include these books in the total, and yet still have a policy of not reporting individual variant print runs.

 

Except, they don't. No one will ever know how many copies of variants there really are for sure, either individually or as a grand total, because NONE of them are reported by diamond. Period. That is why they are ballparked based on the print run of the main cover as reported by comichron, and factoring in international orders if you have access to that information as well.

 

-J.

[LarrysComics]

YES

retail exclusives, skottie youngs, incentives ALL count towards Comichrons number...

 

ONLY regular covers count towards incentives

 

No, you are incorrect here. Diamond does not report print runs for variants.

So this is the crux of the discussion, then. Is the 254K regular covers only, or is it all copies shipped through Diamond?

 

If it's regular covers only, I suspect Jay's number is near correct, and indeed international numbers and small store orders are a wash.

 

If it's all covers, there's a huge chunk of books in the 254K that don't qualify for the 1:100s, and carcrawford's number is likely close.

 

It is the regular covers only. Diamond *does not* report print runs for variants.

 

I refer you back to recalledcomics.com which features multiple books with ballparked print run numbers that are premised on the regular cover orders for several dealer incentive variants (EoSV #2 being one of them as well now).

 

-J.

 

You, sir....are insane. I gave you links that explain it, Larry (a rather large retailer who actually produces store retailers), and other boardies have told you these numbers are included in the Comichron numbers. Your only argument is based on a random website that just divides the print run by the odds on the variant. That is some serious science involved in that. No one said anything about Diamond disclosing print runs for variants and I have no idea why that is one of your talking points. We are trying to tell you that the 20-25 retailers who ordered store exclusives/phantom variants/ghost variants/etc. are INCLUDED in the print run for that book in the month. These are accounts that are serviced by and produced by Diamond and ship to the retailers from Diamond. I am done talking about this because it is like talking to a brick wall. I would hope that you would do some more research and stop spreading misinformation.

 

 

And again, you are still wrong.

 

NO variant print runs are disclosed by diamond. Zero. Zilch. Nada. None. Nothing.

 

That being the case, there is NO WAY for the print runs of the variants to be included in the comichron total. What you are seeing is the regular cover ONLY. Nothing you have linked to states otherwise and the reason you are unable to provide any applicable links is because you are wrong. First you tried to tell people this thing only had 500 copies. Now you're saying 1250. Clearly, you do not know what you are talking about, so maybe you should stop talking.

 

And It does not matter what "kind" of variant it is, or who ordered it.

 

THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED.

 

For you to say otherwise is an outright lie. I'm sure you're just trying to make a buck, but I would suggest you try doing so without attempting to deceive the participants on these boards.

 

And yes, recalledcomics.com is a well respected site. I'm sorry if ALL of the information on there disagrees with everything you are trying to say here as well, but it is what it is.

 

*I apologize to the other readers of this post if I seem rather inflamed. But this guy really needs to just quit. His motives are just too transparent.

 

-J.

 

Wait... so you're telling me I can't read? That on the Cominchron Feb 2015 figs page it doesn't say "Items marked with daggers [†] include orders of more than 350,000 copies from Loot Crate." I'm pretty sure that means that the number includes the number of loot crate variants printed.

 

If the loot crate "shop" variant was sold through Diamond US, it is indeed part of Comichrons "estimate" print run.

 

ALL "shop" variants sold through Diamond US are included.

 

Factoid.

Jacktoid.

[carcrawfordfan]

1)According to Comichron's sales estimates for comics ordered in February 2015. based on data Diamond released today, in February a comic book has once again topped the monthly sales charts because of vast quantities by a single retailer, the repackager Loot Crate.

 

With nearly half a million copies shipped, IDW's Orphan Black #1 would, in fact, rank as the fourth best-selling comic book of the Diamond Exclusive Era, behind January's Star Wars #1, last year's Amazing Spider-Man #1, and Amazing Spider-Man #583 from 2009. It is the third time a comic book has topped the charts likely due to the massive size of Loot Crate's order.

 

2)In the least surprising news in some time, Star Wars #1 from Marvel was the chart-topper: the comic book is reported by its publisher to have sales over a million copies, helped by an unprecedented number of variant covers and boosted by special editions for Loot Crate and other channels. Marvel's market share jumped as a consequence, accounting for 45.64% of units and 41.05% of dollars. Overall comics unit sales were up 10.27% year-over-year, but slightly off from December

 

3)Walking Dead returned to its previous sales level, following last month's Loot Crate-enhanced sales; this would seem to strengthen the case that the October Loot Crate purchase of Walking Dead #132 was likely around 256,000 copies. That's more than Loot Crate appears to have bought of the Guardians of the Galaxy spinoff Rocket Raccoon #1 earlier in the summer, so it's likely there's quite a bit of variance in its orders from set to set. Given how the "crates" can be purchased a la carte as well as by subscription, that would make sense.

 

4)Yet another group of end-users for the data is collectors who want to know how scarce a given comic book is, and the more data points for them, the better. We'd hate not to know how many total copies are out there. But there's no returning to the days of breaking out variant covers into their own entries, now that such variants are ubiquitous. I honestly don't know what the solution is, but I suspect that if other firms enter the Loot Crate space offering comics, odds are the question will be raised again. For Comichron's part, the sales are ginormous enough that we'll be including a dagger (as we're already using the asterisk) when any Loot Crate-enhanced issue appears in the rankings. Future readers won't need to wonder why sales spiked so high.

 

5)Diamond Comic Distributors releases its sales reports for April 2014 orders from comics shops in North America soon, an it is widely expected that Marvel's Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 3 #1, the second relaunched version of that long-running series, will be a blockbuster. Its many variant covers — including a large number specially designed for specific individual comics stores—is likely to give it a high place on the Top Comics of the 21st Century list, which currently is topped by Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 1 #583, the Barack Obama inauguration issue. That issue had orders of at least 530,500 copies across several printings in early 2009 — and more, if newsstand sales are included.

[manetteska]

recalledcomics.com, brah.

[Jaydogrules]

YES

retail exclusives, skottie youngs, incentives ALL count towards Comichrons number...

 

ONLY regular covers count towards incentives

 

No, you are incorrect here. Diamond does not report print runs for variants.

So this is the crux of the discussion, then. Is the 254K regular covers only, or is it all copies shipped through Diamond?

 

If it's regular covers only, I suspect Jay's number is near correct, and indeed international numbers and small store orders are a wash.

 

If it's all covers, there's a huge chunk of books in the 254K that don't qualify for the 1:100s, and carcrawford's number is likely close.

 

It is the regular covers only. Diamond *does not* report print runs for variants.

 

I refer you back to recalledcomics.com which features multiple books with ballparked print run numbers that are premised on the regular cover orders for several dealer incentive variants (EoSV #2 being one of them as well now).

 

-J.

 

You, sir....are insane. I gave you links that explain it, Larry (a rather large retailer who actually produces store retailers), and other boardies have told you these numbers are included in the Comichron numbers. Your only argument is based on a random website that just divides the print run by the odds on the variant. That is some serious science involved in that. No one said anything about Diamond disclosing print runs for variants and I have no idea why that is one of your talking points. We are trying to tell you that the 20-25 retailers who ordered store exclusives/phantom variants/ghost variants/etc. are INCLUDED in the print run for that book in the month. These are accounts that are serviced by and produced by Diamond and ship to the retailers from Diamond. I am done talking about this because it is like talking to a brick wall. I would hope that you would do some more research and stop spreading misinformation.

 

 

And again, you are still wrong.

 

NO variant print runs are disclosed by diamond. Zero. Zilch. Nada. None. Nothing.

 

That being the case, there is NO WAY for the print runs of the variants to be included in the comichron total. What you are seeing is the regular cover ONLY. Nothing you have linked to states otherwise and the reason you are unable to provide any applicable links is because you are wrong. First you tried to tell people this thing only had 500 copies. Now you're saying 1250. Clearly, you do not know what you are talking about, so maybe you should stop talking.

 

And It does not matter what "kind" of variant it is, or who ordered it.

 

THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED.

 

For you to say otherwise is an outright lie. I'm sure you're just trying to make a buck, but I would suggest you try doing so without attempting to deceive the participants on these boards.

 

And yes, recalledcomics.com is a well respected site. I'm sorry if ALL of the information on there disagrees with everything you are trying to say here as well, but it is what it is.

 

*I apologize to the other readers of this post if I seem rather inflamed. But this guy really needs to just quit. His motives are just too transparent.

 

-J.

 

Wait... so you're telling me I can't read? That on the Cominchron Feb 2015 figs page it doesn't say "Items marked with daggers [†] include orders of more than 350,000 copies from Loot Crate." I'm pretty sure that means that the number includes the number of loot crate variants printed.

 

If the loot crate "shop" variant was sold through Diamond US, it is indeed part of Comichrons "estimate" print run.

 

ALL "shop" variants sold through Diamond US are included.

 

Factoid.

Jacktoid.

 

Yup. And that's why the numbers for that ONE book are asterisked.

 

Factoid Jacktoid indeed.

 

-J.

[carcrawfordfan]

recalledcomics.com, brah.

 

LMFAO...

[Jaydogrules]

1)According to Comichron's sales estimates for comics ordered in February 2015. based on data Diamond released today, in February a comic book has once again topped the monthly sales charts because of vast quantities by a single retailer, the repackager Loot Crate.

 

With nearly half a million copies shipped, IDW's Orphan Black #1 would, in fact, rank as the fourth best-selling comic book of the Diamond Exclusive Era, behind January's Star Wars #1, last year's Amazing Spider-Man #1, and Amazing Spider-Man #583 from 2009. It is the third time a comic book has topped the charts likely due to the massive size of Loot Crate's order.

 

2)In the least surprising news in some time, Star Wars #1 from Marvel was the chart-topper: the comic book is reported by its publisher to have sales over a million copies, helped by an unprecedented number of variant covers and boosted by special editions for Loot Crate and other channels. Marvel's market share jumped as a consequence, accounting for 45.64% of units and 41.05% of dollars. Overall comics unit sales were up 10.27% year-over-year, but slightly off from December

 

3)Walking Dead returned to its previous sales level, following last month's Loot Crate-enhanced sales; this would seem to strengthen the case that the October Loot Crate purchase of Walking Dead #132 was likely around 256,000 copies. That's more than Loot Crate appears to have bought of the Guardians of the Galaxy spinoff Rocket Raccoon #1 earlier in the summer, so it's likely there's quite a bit of variance in its orders from set to set. Given how the "crates" can be purchased a la carte as well as by subscription, that would make sense.

 

4)Yet another group of end-users for the data is collectors who want to know how scarce a given comic book is, and the more data points for them, the better. We'd hate not to know how many total copies are out there. But there's no returning to the days of breaking out variant covers into their own entries, now that such variants are ubiquitous. I honestly don't know what the solution is, but I suspect that if other firms enter the Loot Crate space offering comics, odds are the question will be raised again. For Comichron's part, the sales are ginormous enough that we'll be including a dagger (as we're already using the asterisk) when any Loot Crate-enhanced issue appears in the rankings. Future readers won't need to wonder why sales spiked so high.

 

5)Diamond Comic Distributors releases its sales reports for April 2014 orders from comics shops in North America soon, an it is widely expected that Marvel's Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 3 #1, the second relaunched version of that long-running series, will be a blockbuster. Its many variant covers — including a large number specially designed for specific individual comics stores—is likely to give it a high place on the Top Comics of the 21st Century list, which currently is topped by Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 1 #583, the Barack Obama inauguration issue. That issue had orders of at least 530,500 copies across several printings in early 2009 — and more, if newsstand sales are included.

 

This still doesn't say what you seem to think it does. No matter how many times you quote it.

 

-J.

[carcrawfordfan]

1)According to Comichron's sales estimates for comics ordered in February 2015. based on data Diamond released today, in February a comic book has once again topped the monthly sales charts because of vast quantities by a single retailer, the repackager Loot Crate.

 

With nearly half a million copies shipped, IDW's Orphan Black #1 would, in fact, rank as the fourth best-selling comic book of the Diamond Exclusive Era, behind January's Star Wars #1, last year's Amazing Spider-Man #1, and Amazing Spider-Man #583 from 2009. It is the third time a comic book has topped the charts likely due to the massive size of Loot Crate's order.

 

2)In the least surprising news in some time, Star Wars #1 from Marvel was the chart-topper: the comic book is reported by its publisher to have sales over a million copies, helped by an unprecedented number of variant covers and boosted by special editions for Loot Crate and other channels. Marvel's market share jumped as a consequence, accounting for 45.64% of units and 41.05% of dollars. Overall comics unit sales were up 10.27% year-over-year, but slightly off from December

 

3)Walking Dead returned to its previous sales level, following last month's Loot Crate-enhanced sales; this would seem to strengthen the case that the October Loot Crate purchase of Walking Dead #132 was likely around 256,000 copies. That's more than Loot Crate appears to have bought of the Guardians of the Galaxy spinoff Rocket Raccoon #1 earlier in the summer, so it's likely there's quite a bit of variance in its orders from set to set. Given how the "crates" can be purchased a la carte as well as by subscription, that would make sense.

 

4)Yet another group of end-users for the data is collectors who want to know how scarce a given comic book is, and the more data points for them, the better. We'd hate not to know how many total copies are out there. But there's no returning to the days of breaking out variant covers into their own entries, now that such variants are ubiquitous. I honestly don't know what the solution is, but I suspect that if other firms enter the Loot Crate space offering comics, odds are the question will be raised again. For Comichron's part, the sales are ginormous enough that we'll be including a dagger (as we're already using the asterisk) when any Loot Crate-enhanced issue appears in the rankings. Future readers won't need to wonder why sales spiked so high.

 

5)Diamond Comic Distributors releases its sales reports for April 2014 orders from comics shops in North America soon, an it is widely expected that Marvel's Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 3 #1, the second relaunched version of that long-running series, will be a blockbuster. Its many variant covers — including a large number specially designed for specific individual comics stores—is likely to give it a high place on the Top Comics of the 21st Century list, which currently is topped by Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 1 #583, the Barack Obama inauguration issue. That issue had orders of at least 530,500 copies across several printings in early 2009 — and more, if newsstand sales are included.

 

This still doesn't say what you seem to think it does. No matter how many times you quote it.

 

-J.

 

I guess I need a stiff drink.....

[slym2none]

The ending was that no one agreed on anything, drama ensued, slym dropped a couple of GIFs, Larry was banned again, RMA quoted walls of txts and here we are again anxiously awaiting a repeat..

 

Or something

 

 

::

 

 

 

-slym

[Vikingreed]

The ending was that no one agreed on anything, drama ensued, slym dropped a couple of GIFs, Larry was banned again, RMA quoted walls of txts and here we are again anxiously awaiting a repeat..

 

Or something

 

 

::

 

 

 

-slym

 

Yep.

 

[Jaydogrules]

1)According to Comichron's sales estimates for comics ordered in February 2015. based on data Diamond released today, in February a comic book has once again topped the monthly sales charts because of vast quantities by a single retailer, the repackager Loot Crate.

 

With nearly half a million copies shipped, IDW's Orphan Black #1 would, in fact, rank as the fourth best-selling comic book of the Diamond Exclusive Era, behind January's Star Wars #1, last year's Amazing Spider-Man #1, and Amazing Spider-Man #583 from 2009. It is the third time a comic book has topped the charts likely due to the massive size of Loot Crate's order.

 

2)In the least surprising news in some time, Star Wars #1 from Marvel was the chart-topper: the comic book is reported by its publisher to have sales over a million copies, helped by an unprecedented number of variant covers and boosted by special editions for Loot Crate and other channels. Marvel's market share jumped as a consequence, accounting for 45.64% of units and 41.05% of dollars. Overall comics unit sales were up 10.27% year-over-year, but slightly off from December

 

3)Walking Dead returned to its previous sales level, following last month's Loot Crate-enhanced sales; this would seem to strengthen the case that the October Loot Crate purchase of Walking Dead #132 was likely around 256,000 copies. That's more than Loot Crate appears to have bought of the Guardians of the Galaxy spinoff Rocket Raccoon #1 earlier in the summer, so it's likely there's quite a bit of variance in its orders from set to set. Given how the "crates" can be purchased a la carte as well as by subscription, that would make sense.

 

4)Yet another group of end-users for the data is collectors who want to know how scarce a given comic book is, and the more data points for them, the better. We'd hate not to know how many total copies are out there. But there's no returning to the days of breaking out variant covers into their own entries, now that such variants are ubiquitous. I honestly don't know what the solution is, but I suspect that if other firms enter the Loot Crate space offering comics, odds are the question will be raised again. For Comichron's part, the sales are ginormous enough that we'll be including a dagger (as we're already using the asterisk) when any Loot Crate-enhanced issue appears in the rankings. Future readers won't need to wonder why sales spiked so high.

 

5)Diamond Comic Distributors releases its sales reports for April 2014 orders from comics shops in North America soon, an it is widely expected that Marvel's Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 3 #1, the second relaunched version of that long-running series, will be a blockbuster. Its many variant covers — including a large number specially designed for specific individual comics stores—is likely to give it a high place on the Top Comics of the 21st Century list, which currently is topped by Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 1 #583, the Barack Obama inauguration issue. That issue had orders of at least 530,500 copies across several printings in early 2009 — and more, if newsstand sales are included.

 

This still doesn't say what you seem to think it does. No matter how many times you quote it.

 

-J.

 

I guess I need a stiff drink.....

 

This article is referring to comics that are asterisked Loot crate orders.

 

There's a reason the asterisk is there- You're intended to take it in context with all of the other, normally reported books, and understand that there is a difference.

 

Spider Gwen #1 was not a Loot crate order, and therefore has nothing skewing its numbers. Thus no asterisk. Apples and oranges. This isn't complicated and I'm sure you know the difference.

 

-J.

 

[carcrawfordfan]

#5 very clearly says it for you:

 

Its many variant covers — including a large number specially designed for specific individual comics stores—is likely to give it a high place on the Top Comics of the 21st Century list

[Lonzilla]

Just read that Marvel is doing a Gwen variant month. They better not show her at the mercy of The Green Goblin or the you-know-who's will get all fired up again

[carcrawfordfan]

1)According to Comichron's sales estimates for comics ordered in February 2015. based on data Diamond released today, in February a comic book has once again topped the monthly sales charts because of vast quantities by a single retailer, the repackager Loot Crate.

 

With nearly half a million copies shipped, IDW's Orphan Black #1 would, in fact, rank as the fourth best-selling comic book of the Diamond Exclusive Era, behind January's Star Wars #1, last year's Amazing Spider-Man #1, and Amazing Spider-Man #583 from 2009. It is the third time a comic book has topped the charts likely due to the massive size of Loot Crate's order.

 

2)In the least surprising news in some time, Star Wars #1 from Marvel was the chart-topper: the comic book is reported by its publisher to have sales over a million copies, helped by an unprecedented number of variant covers and boosted by special editions for Loot Crate and other channels. Marvel's market share jumped as a consequence, accounting for 45.64% of units and 41.05% of dollars. Overall comics unit sales were up 10.27% year-over-year, but slightly off from December

 

3)Walking Dead returned to its previous sales level, following last month's Loot Crate-enhanced sales; this would seem to strengthen the case that the October Loot Crate purchase of Walking Dead #132 was likely around 256,000 copies. That's more than Loot Crate appears to have bought of the Guardians of the Galaxy spinoff Rocket Raccoon #1 earlier in the summer, so it's likely there's quite a bit of variance in its orders from set to set. Given how the "crates" can be purchased a la carte as well as by subscription, that would make sense.

 

4)Yet another group of end-users for the data is collectors who want to know how scarce a given comic book is, and the more data points for them, the better. We'd hate not to know how many total copies are out there. But there's no returning to the days of breaking out variant covers into their own entries, now that such variants are ubiquitous. I honestly don't know what the solution is, but I suspect that if other firms enter the Loot Crate space offering comics, odds are the question will be raised again. For Comichron's part, the sales are ginormous enough that we'll be including a dagger (as we're already using the asterisk) when any Loot Crate-enhanced issue appears in the rankings. Future readers won't need to wonder why sales spiked so high.

 

5)Diamond Comic Distributors releases its sales reports for April 2014 orders from comics shops in North America soon, an it is widely expected that Marvel's Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 3 #1, the second relaunched version of that long-running series, will be a blockbuster. Its many variant covers — including a large number specially designed for specific individual comics stores—is likely to give it a high place on the Top Comics of the 21st Century list, which currently is topped by Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 1 #583, the Barack Obama inauguration issue. That issue had orders of at least 530,500 copies across several printings in early 2009 — and more, if newsstand sales are included.

 

This still doesn't say what you seem to think it does. No matter how many times you quote it.

 

-J.

 

I guess I need a stiff drink.....

 

This article is referring to comics that are asterisked Loot crate orders.

 

There's a reason the asterisk is there- You're intended to take it in context with all of the other, normally reported books, and understand that there is a difference.

 

Spider Gwen #1 was not a Loot crate order, and therefore has nothing skewing its numbers. Thus no asterisk. Apples and oranges. This isn't complicated and I'm sure you know the difference.

 

-J.

 

And why do you think the Loot Crate variants would be included and the other shop variants wouldn't? They are not the regular cover and they were all ordered via Diamond.

[Jaydogrules]

#5 very clearly says it for you:

 

Its many variant covers — including a large number specially designed for specific individual comics stores—is likely to give it a high place on the Top Comics of the 21st Century list

 

Dude. Based on the reported domestic print run of 250,000+ copies of the regular cover there's approximately 2500 copies of the 1:100 Hughes variant.

 

I was correct in my estimate of the Land variant for EoSV #2 and I'm correct on this one.

 

It's not a rare book.

 

Sorry.

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=spider+Gwen+1+Hughes+&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=100&_udhi=1%2C000%2C000&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200

 

-J.

[Jaydogrules]

1)According to Comichron's sales estimates for comics ordered in February 2015. based on data Diamond released today, in February a comic book has once again topped the monthly sales charts because of vast quantities by a single retailer, the repackager Loot Crate.

 

With nearly half a million copies shipped, IDW's Orphan Black #1 would, in fact, rank as the fourth best-selling comic book of the Diamond Exclusive Era, behind January's Star Wars #1, last year's Amazing Spider-Man #1, and Amazing Spider-Man #583 from 2009. It is the third time a comic book has topped the charts likely due to the massive size of Loot Crate's order.

 

2)In the least surprising news in some time, Star Wars #1 from Marvel was the chart-topper: the comic book is reported by its publisher to have sales over a million copies, helped by an unprecedented number of variant covers and boosted by special editions for Loot Crate and other channels. Marvel's market share jumped as a consequence, accounting for 45.64% of units and 41.05% of dollars. Overall comics unit sales were up 10.27% year-over-year, but slightly off from December

 

3)Walking Dead returned to its previous sales level, following last month's Loot Crate-enhanced sales; this would seem to strengthen the case that the October Loot Crate purchase of Walking Dead #132 was likely around 256,000 copies. That's more than Loot Crate appears to have bought of the Guardians of the Galaxy spinoff Rocket Raccoon #1 earlier in the summer, so it's likely there's quite a bit of variance in its orders from set to set. Given how the "crates" can be purchased a la carte as well as by subscription, that would make sense.

 

4)Yet another group of end-users for the data is collectors who want to know how scarce a given comic book is, and the more data points for them, the better. We'd hate not to know how many total copies are out there. But there's no returning to the days of breaking out variant covers into their own entries, now that such variants are ubiquitous. I honestly don't know what the solution is, but I suspect that if other firms enter the Loot Crate space offering comics, odds are the question will be raised again. For Comichron's part, the sales are ginormous enough that we'll be including a dagger (as we're already using the asterisk) when any Loot Crate-enhanced issue appears in the rankings. Future readers won't need to wonder why sales spiked so high.

 

5)Diamond Comic Distributors releases its sales reports for April 2014 orders from comics shops in North America soon, an it is widely expected that Marvel's Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 3 #1, the second relaunched version of that long-running series, will be a blockbuster. Its many variant covers — including a large number specially designed for specific individual comics stores—is likely to give it a high place on the Top Comics of the 21st Century list, which currently is topped by Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 1 #583, the Barack Obama inauguration issue. That issue had orders of at least 530,500 copies across several printings in early 2009 — and more, if newsstand sales are included.

 

This still doesn't say what you seem to think it does. No matter how many times you quote it.

 

-J.

 

I guess I need a stiff drink.....

 

This article is referring to comics that are asterisked Loot crate orders.

 

There's a reason the asterisk is there- You're intended to take it in context with all of the other, normally reported books, and understand that there is a difference.

 

Spider Gwen #1 was not a Loot crate order, and therefore has nothing skewing its numbers. Thus no asterisk. Apples and oranges. This isn't complicated and I'm sure you know the difference.

 

-J.

 

And why do you think the Loot Crate variants would be included and the other shop variants wouldn't? They are not the regular cover and they were all ordered via Diamond.

 

I'm not a diamond insider I can't answer all of your questions.

 

Sufficeth to say there's an obvious reason why loot crate books get asterisked out.

 

Let common sense be your guide.

 

-J.

[slym2none]

 

 

 

 

-slym