1Cool Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Why not put it on the bay at the same time? I can if it wasn't on fb as well because the majority of the groups I'm on wouldn't allow it and would delete the posts. FB is fine for a few days but E-Bay has a audience of millions where as a group on FB maybe a couple hundred. For a book like ASM 129 CGC 8.0 having it up on E-Bay is your best bet in my opinion. I agree I'm only keeping it up for this weekend and off to ebay it goes as for a cgc 8.0 asm 129 people don't have too many choices when buying so that gives me the advantage. True - right now there doesn't look to be a lot of copies floating around. There is one on E-Bay that could probably be had for $900 - $950 with a best offer but the seller has it at $1,100 right now. No similar copies were in the Comic Link auction so hard to tell what the going rate really is right now. I'd suggest putting it up on E-Bay at $1,000 with a Best Offer option and hopefully you will get it sold quickly for $925 - $950. That would be a good idea but I also have to calculate that I'm going to have also put it higher since I have have to deal with a 14.5% commission on top of that unless I can say to contact me for a better deal and do it on the boards or FB and I can give them 10% discount There is already a guy sitting holding out for $1,100 so sitting next to him at $1,100 doesn't seem to make much sense. I guess you could go $1,075 and hold steady but recent past sales don't bode well for that path. With quite a few selling in the $850 range I'd be happy with $950 even though you are losing a few bucks because of fees. There is a place to hold out for FMV but holding out for considerably more then FMV you become a long term speculator instead of a flipper. Tons of those on E-Bay - some work out some sit on inventory for years and years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchiha101 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Why not just list the price you sold the book for instead of putting a negative in front of the price? What does the negative in front of the GS X-Men #1 indicate? What was the selling price? It means I lost 100% of my money since that comic was a scam So you paid for the book and the book was never delivered and the seller never refunded your money back? Unfortunately that's what happened I paid him with a money order and once I realized what happened I tried to use the serial number to get my money back but he already spent it. And you didn't call the police/RCMP? Jim Oh I did but they said it was too late when I called, he already spent it and they didn't have enough evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchiha101 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) Why not put it on the bay at the same time? I can if it wasn't on fb as well because the majority of the groups I'm on wouldn't allow it and would delete the posts. FB is fine for a few days but E-Bay has a audience of millions where as a group on FB maybe a couple hundred. For a book like ASM 129 CGC 8.0 having it up on E-Bay is your best bet in my opinion. I agree I'm only keeping it up for this weekend and off to ebay it goes as for a cgc 8.0 asm 129 people don't have too many choices when buying so that gives me the advantage. True - right now there doesn't look to be a lot of copies floating around. There is one on E-Bay that could probably be had for $900 - $950 with a best offer but the seller has it at $1,100 right now. No similar copies were in the Comic Link auction so hard to tell what the going rate really is right now. I'd suggest putting it up on E-Bay at $1,000 with a Best Offer option and hopefully you will get it sold quickly for $925 - $950. That would be a good idea but I also have to calculate that I'm going to have also put it higher since I have have to deal with a 14.5% commission on top of that unless I can say to contact me for a better deal and do it on the boards or FB and I can give them 10% discount There is already a guy sitting holding out for $1,100 so sitting next to him at $1,100 doesn't seem to make much sense. I guess you could go $1,075 and hold steady but recent past sales don't bode well for that path. With quite a few selling in the $850 range I'd be happy with $950 even though you are losing a few bucks because of fees. There is a place to hold out for FMV but holding out for considerably more then FMV you become a long term speculator instead of a flipper. Tons of those on E-Bay - some work out some sit on inventory for years and years. Yes and no I don't want to start undercutting before I would even get offers and even if I did it wouldn't look good for gpa anyway. So with my copy that would make 4 graded ones and all except offers 1 of them being voldemort's and the other being voldemort 2 that already improves my chances so it would be between me and the guy that has it for 1100 OBO. So that said I'll see what I can put on my listing and get away with. Edited September 28, 2016 by uchiha101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenners Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 .. if we can say PGX .. we can say CBCS. I get so f'kin tired of 'Voldemort'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine48 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchiha101 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 .. if we can say PGX .. we can say CBCS. I get so f'kin tired of 'Voldemort'. You make a fair point I'll change that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Have you tried selling the book direct to Mycomicshop? They often offer FMV on highly sought after books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchiha101 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Have you tried selling the book direct to Mycomicshop? They often offer FMV on highly sought after books. I didn't consider that yet thanks and I'll message them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W16227 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Why not put it on the bay at the same time? I can if it wasn't on fb as well because the majority of the groups I'm on wouldn't allow it and would delete the posts. FB is fine for a few days but E-Bay has a audience of millions where as a group on FB maybe a couple hundred. For a book like ASM 129 CGC 8.0 having it up on E-Bay is your best bet in my opinion. I agree I'm only keeping it up for this weekend and off to ebay it goes as for a cgc 8.0 asm 129 people don't have too many choices when buying so that gives me the advantage. True - right now there doesn't look to be a lot of copies floating around. There is one on E-Bay that could probably be had for $900 - $950 with a best offer but the seller has it at $1,100 right now. No similar copies were in the Comic Link auction so hard to tell what the going rate really is right now. I'd suggest putting it up on E-Bay at $1,000 with a Best Offer option and hopefully you will get it sold quickly for $925 - $950. That would be a good idea but I also have to calculate that I'm going to have also put it higher since I have have to deal with a 14.5% commission on top of that unless I can say to contact me for a better deal and do it on the boards or FB and I can give them 10% discount ebay kind of frowns on that sort of thing...... You need to decide what to do with the book. If you do not care when it sells - put whatever price you want for it and place is on ebay - you can then let it sit until the market catches up with you price. If you want to move it right away - you need to listen. 1cool gave you some great advice - and you used your incorrect logic to say why you needed to list it for more. He is much more knowledgeable than you with respect to ebay pricing and what books actually sell for there. Yes - everyone wants to maximize their sales price - but you have to know what a realistic number will be for sales - THEN calculate backward after the sale to see what the profit or loss will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchiha101 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) Why not put it on the bay at the same time? I can if it wasn't on fb as well because the majority of the groups I'm on wouldn't allow it and would delete the posts. FB is fine for a few days but E-Bay has a audience of millions where as a group on FB maybe a couple hundred. For a book like ASM 129 CGC 8.0 having it up on E-Bay is your best bet in my opinion. I agree I'm only keeping it up for this weekend and off to ebay it goes as for a cgc 8.0 asm 129 people don't have too many choices when buying so that gives me the advantage. True - right now there doesn't look to be a lot of copies floating around. There is one on E-Bay that could probably be had for $900 - $950 with a best offer but the seller has it at $1,100 right now. No similar copies were in the Comic Link auction so hard to tell what the going rate really is right now. I'd suggest putting it up on E-Bay at $1,000 with a Best Offer option and hopefully you will get it sold quickly for $925 - $950. That would be a good idea but I also have to calculate that I'm going to have also put it higher since I have have to deal with a 14.5% commission on top of that unless I can say to contact me for a better deal and do it on the boards or FB and I can give them 10% discount ebay kind of frowns on that sort of thing...... You need to decide what to do with the book. If you do not care when it sells - put whatever price you want for it and place is on ebay - you can then let it sit until the market catches up with you price. If you want to move it right away - you need to listen. 1cool gave you some great advice - and you used your incorrect logic to say why you needed to list it for more. He is much more knowledgeable than you with respect to ebay pricing and what books actually sell for there. Yes - everyone wants to maximize their sales price - but you have to know what a realistic number will be for sales - THEN calculate backward after the sale to see what the profit or loss will be. How was my logic wrong? I said that I would need to price that comic higher to make up for fees and I can offer a discount if they were interested in doing that. Unless I'll wait till the market catches up there's no way that I will make a profit or break even on this comic so that leaves me with taking a loss. So using the two numbers 1cool gave me I'll show you how I would calculate things Calculation 1 925 x 14.5% = 134.13 925-134.13 = 790.87 966-790.87= -175.13 loss Calculation 2 950 x 14.5%= 137.75 950-137.75 = 812.25 966-812.25=153.75 Loss I think that's what you wanted right? Edited September 28, 2016 by uchiha101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall-Crawler Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 By listing it "high" like that you are not "undercutting"...You are already pricing it HIGH hoping you will sell it for more than it previously has. Question: How long do you want to be "out" that $956 USD? Do you want to be out of that for 2 months? 3 months? How long are you willing to let it sit in the hopes of either a) making a couple of bucks or b) breaking even? At what point does taking a small loss (say $100) become an option? Another thing to consider...There is an 8.5 on there RIGHT NOW and someone is asking 1,199.99 USD - Only a couple hundred more than yours and the book has a perfect wrap and no staple tear as far as I can see - You are not just competing against other 8.0's - You are going to be competing against nice 7.0/7.5's, other 8.0's and as proven, 8.5's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchiha101 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 By listing it "high" like that you are not "undercutting"...You are already pricing it HIGH hoping you will sell it for more than it previously has. Question: How long do you want to be "out" that $956 USD? Do you want to be out of that for 2 months? 3 months? How long are you willing to let it sit in the hopes of either a) making a couple of bucks or b) breaking even? At what point does taking a small loss (say $100) become an option? Another thing to consider...There is an 8.5 on there RIGHT NOW and someone is asking 1,199.99 USD - Only a couple hundred more than yours and the book has a perfect wrap and no staple tear as far as I can see - You are not just competing against other 8.0's - You are going to be competing against nice 7.0/7.5's, other 8.0's and as proven, 8.5's... I don't want to be out that 956 usd a long time because I can't afford to hold it that long. I can take a loss but again I'm trying to minimize it as much as I can and I took a look at those comics and they are nicer then mine but the thing is the 7.0/7.5 are also lower in grade, I do have competition I can't deny that but I have a pretty good chance if I do what 1cool says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchiha101 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 ASM 129 Update 6 The comic is now up on ebay since you guys managed to convince me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red84 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Why not put it on the bay at the same time? I can if it wasn't on fb as well because the majority of the groups I'm on wouldn't allow it and would delete the posts. FB is fine for a few days but E-Bay has a audience of millions where as a group on FB maybe a couple hundred. For a book like ASM 129 CGC 8.0 having it up on E-Bay is your best bet in my opinion. I agree I'm only keeping it up for this weekend and off to ebay it goes as for a cgc 8.0 asm 129 people don't have too many choices when buying so that gives me the advantage. True - right now there doesn't look to be a lot of copies floating around. There is one on E-Bay that could probably be had for $900 - $950 with a best offer but the seller has it at $1,100 right now. No similar copies were in the Comic Link auction so hard to tell what the going rate really is right now. I'd suggest putting it up on E-Bay at $1,000 with a Best Offer option and hopefully you will get it sold quickly for $925 - $950. That would be a good idea but I also have to calculate that I'm going to have also put it higher since I have have to deal with a 14.5% commission on top of that unless I can say to contact me for a better deal and do it on the boards or FB and I can give them 10% discount ebay kind of frowns on that sort of thing...... You need to decide what to do with the book. If you do not care when it sells - put whatever price you want for it and place is on ebay - you can then let it sit until the market catches up with you price. If you want to move it right away - you need to listen. 1cool gave you some great advice - and you used your incorrect logic to say why you needed to list it for more. He is much more knowledgeable than you with respect to ebay pricing and what books actually sell for there. Yes - everyone wants to maximize their sales price - but you have to know what a realistic number will be for sales - THEN calculate backward after the sale to see what the profit or loss will be. How was my logic wrong? I said that I would need to price that comic higher to make up for fees and I can offer a discount if they were interested in doing that. Unless I'll wait till the market catches up there's no way that I will make a profit or break even on this comic so that leaves me with taking a loss. So using the two numbers 1cool gave me I'll show you how I would calculate things Calculation 1 925 x 14.5% = 134.13 925-134.13 = 790.87 966-790.87= -175.13 loss Calculation 2 950 x 14.5%= 137.75 950-137.75 = 812.25 966-812.25=153.75 Loss I think that's what you wanted right? Here's a clue for you. YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE A LOSS ON THE BOOK! As soon as you figure that out you will sell it. When you severely overpay for a very common book you don't get to make a profit or even break even. Be an adult and sell it for a loss. This is just plain silly watching you rationalize how you're going to make a buck on this disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1fan Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 ASM 129 Update 6 The comic is now up on ebay since you guys managed to convince me I just looked at your auction. As soon as eBay finds out about your offer of a "better deal" they will more than likely pull your auction. All it's going to take is one person to notify them, or they may find it themselves, and your auction is probably going to get poofed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchiha101 Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 ASM 129 Update 6 The comic is now up on ebay since you guys managed to convince me I just looked at your auction. As soon as eBay finds out about your offer of a "better deal" they will more than likely pull your auction. All it's going to take is one person to notify them, or they may find it themselves, and your auction is probably going to get poofed. Hopefully not but if it happens I can at least say I tried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall-Crawler Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 ASM 129 Update 6 The comic is now up on ebay since you guys managed to convince me I just looked at your auction. As soon as eBay finds out about your offer of a "better deal" they will more than likely pull your auction. All it's going to take is one person to notify them, or they may find it themselves, and your auction is probably going to get poofed. Hopefully not but if it happens I can at least say I tried They (eBay) might do more than just "poof" your listing though. Getting in eBay's "bad books" might not be a good idea for a fledgling seller already in the hole just to try to eek out a few extra dollars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan510 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 ASM 129 Update 6 The comic is now up on ebay since you guys managed to convince me I just looked at your auction. As soon as eBay finds out about your offer of a "better deal" they will more than likely pull your auction. All it's going to take is one person to notify them, or they may find it themselves, and your auction is probably going to get poofed. Wait...you're saying that his eBay listing makes mention of doing a deal off of eBay? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchiha101 Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 Why not put it on the bay at the same time? I can if it wasn't on fb as well because the majority of the groups I'm on wouldn't allow it and would delete the posts. FB is fine for a few days but E-Bay has a audience of millions where as a group on FB maybe a couple hundred. For a book like ASM 129 CGC 8.0 having it up on E-Bay is your best bet in my opinion. I agree I'm only keeping it up for this weekend and off to ebay it goes as for a cgc 8.0 asm 129 people don't have too many choices when buying so that gives me the advantage. True - right now there doesn't look to be a lot of copies floating around. There is one on E-Bay that could probably be had for $900 - $950 with a best offer but the seller has it at $1,100 right now. No similar copies were in the Comic Link auction so hard to tell what the going rate really is right now. I'd suggest putting it up on E-Bay at $1,000 with a Best Offer option and hopefully you will get it sold quickly for $925 - $950. That would be a good idea but I also have to calculate that I'm going to have also put it higher since I have have to deal with a 14.5% commission on top of that unless I can say to contact me for a better deal and do it on the boards or FB and I can give them 10% discount ebay kind of frowns on that sort of thing...... You need to decide what to do with the book. If you do not care when it sells - put whatever price you want for it and place is on ebay - you can then let it sit until the market catches up with you price. If you want to move it right away - you need to listen. 1cool gave you some great advice - and you used your incorrect logic to say why you needed to list it for more. He is much more knowledgeable than you with respect to ebay pricing and what books actually sell for there. Yes - everyone wants to maximize their sales price - but you have to know what a realistic number will be for sales - THEN calculate backward after the sale to see what the profit or loss will be. How was my logic wrong? I said that I would need to price that comic higher to make up for fees and I can offer a discount if they were interested in doing that. Unless I'll wait till the market catches up there's no way that I will make a profit or break even on this comic so that leaves me with taking a loss. So using the two numbers 1cool gave me I'll show you how I would calculate things Calculation 1 925 x 14.5% = 134.13 925-134.13 = 790.87 966-790.87= -175.13 loss Calculation 2 950 x 14.5%= 137.75 950-137.75 = 812.25 966-812.25=153.75 Loss I think that's what you wanted right? Here's a clue for you. YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE A LOSS ON THE BOOK! As soon as you figure that out you will sell it. When you severely overpay for a very common book you don't get to make a profit or even break even. Be an adult and sell it for a loss. This is just plain silly watching you rationalize how you're going to make a buck on this disaster. I know that I won't make a profit on it but I'm trying to minimize the loss and I also have more then one option in selling this comic but one of them would require me to wait and hope that I would break even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action252Kid Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Not to pile on, but you should really add a back cover scan, GET RID OF the sentence about the 11% off thing (eBay won't like that), and I would clarify what you mean by "the case has some scuffs and scratches" -- if it's something minor, then say that, but the way you have it now, I could see someone taking an additional $50 off of their offer if they think they will need to ship it to/from CGC for reholdering -- you already have so many things working against this sale with it being out of the country, a common book, etc. -- you are just making a sale less and less likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
