Heritage's Next Event Auction has started posting books ! 31 31

[lou_fine]

On 4/5/2023 at 5:21 AM, buttock said:

Those weren't my books

Nooooo..................REALLY, tell me it isn't so!!!    

[lou_fine]

On 3/30/2023 at 2:12 PM, buttock said:

On 3/30/2023 at 2:05 PM, MrBedrock said:

It was pretty interesting how in this here particular auction there were some high prices and some low prices. That rarely happens in an auction.

[writes down all advice from Mr. B]

And believe it or not, sometimes even within the same title, which I found rather interesting when it came to the Torchy's in this auction:  

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/torchy-5-quality-1950-cgc-vf-80-cream-to-off-white-pages/a/7339-94189.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

I still remember way back in the day when both Torchy 5 and Torchy 6 with the then more risque classic GGA covers by Ward were the go to issues in the Torchy run.  As such, interesting to note that this copy only sold for a mere $1,680 while the other earlier more mundane and less alluring covers all sold for just over $5K price point, with the Torchy 1 slightly lower at $4,560:  

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/torchy-1-quality-1949-cgc-vf-80-off-white-pages/a/7339-94186.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Inventory-BuyNowFromOwner-ArchiveSearchResults-012417&lotPosition=0|2

 

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/torchy-2-quality-1950-cgc-nm-92-off-white-pages/a/7339-94187.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Inventory-BuyNowFromOwner-ArchiveSearchResults-012417&lotPosition=0|0

 

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/torchy-4-quality-1950-cgc-vf-nm-90-off-white-pages/a/7339-94188.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Inventory-BuyNowFromOwner-ArchiveSearchResults-012417&lotPosition=0|1

[tth2]

Very interesting seeing a number of the books in the Dell & Gold Key auction that's closing today.  Now I know who was buying a lot of the books I was selling last year!  Schmell has certainly been on a buying binge the last few years.

It appears that all of the Mile Highs that I sold have been resubbed for new labels, and a few have higher grades.  Once the auction closes, I'll post comparisons of my sale prices with the new sale prices. 

[lou_fine]

On 4/6/2023 at 10:10 AM, tth2 said:

Very interesting seeing a number of the books in the Dell & Gold Key auction that's closing today.  Now I know who was buying a lot of the books I was selling last year!  Schmell has certainly been on a buying binge the last few years.

It appears that all of the Mile Highs that I sold have been resubbed for new labels, and a few have higher grades.  Once the auction closes, I'll post comparisons of my sale prices with the new sale prices. 

Yes, sounds like typical Schmell at work here.  

When you post your comparison for us here, can you also post the old grade and new grade at the same time?  

[lou_fine]

On 4/6/2023 at 10:10 AM, tth2 said:

Now I know who was buying a lot of the books I was selling last year!  Schmell has certainly been on a buying binge the last few years.

OMG..............is this one of the big big boys that you sold off last year to Schmell since it's ending in a few short short hours from now:    

https://comics.ha.com/itm/silver-age-1956-1969-/western/the-rifleman-10-dell-1962-cgc-nm-96-off-white-to-white-pages/a/40229-82361.s?type=KMrm-criteo-comics-dynamic-segwindeal-061621

If so, HOW COULD YOU as nobody should ever give up on a big boy like this one here, especially when it's also a File Copy and one of only 4 highest graded copies to date.    

Edited April 6, 2023 by lou_fine

[Dark Knight]

That book is definitely packing some beef!

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

There’s a boardie here that chased Johnny Crawford around at a convention until he finally autographed this issue. Crawford initially refused, not much liking the infamy of the picture. (He knew what you guys out there were saying - you sickos) But when the boardie persisted, he finally agreed to sign it. Probably just to shut the boardie up about it already. So he autographed. . . The Log itself!!
 

I’ll look thru my messages for who the boardie was that told me

ok it was @comix4funwho told me about getting Johnny Crawford to autograph the log. 
 

and as long as we are on the topic of crazy, how about this:

Edited April 7, 2023 by GreatCaesarsGhost

[tth2]

Doug has already made quite the achievement by not only making money on some of the Promise [Richard] Tracys, but making a big profit on them.

I figured he was going to take a bath on the #1, which sold for $9600 back in January 2022, but no, it sold for $11,400 this time around.

[tth2]

The Promise books that I was tracking (there were many others that I was not tracking, but hopefully Master Chief will incorporate into his database at some point):

[Richard] Tracy Monthly #1 $11,400 (previously sold for $9,600 1/16/22)

#2 $2,040 ($3,120 1/16/22)

#3 $5,280 ($2,640 1/16/22)

#4 $5,040 ($3,360 1/16/22)

#5 $2,280 ($2,640 1/16/22)

#6 $3,600 ($2,040 1/16/22)

Four Color #133 $2,640 ($3,360 1/16/22)

Four Color #136 $1,200 ($1,920 5/16/22)

Four Color #151 $3,360 ($6,600 5/16/22)

None of these were my books.  I've never had the pleasure of winning a Promise book. 

  

Edited April 6, 2023 by tth2

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

On 4/6/2023 at 6:48 PM, tth2 said:

I've never had the pleasure of winning a Promise book.

 

[jimbo_7071]

I was surprised by how much the 9.6 non-ped Four Color 33 resembled the 9.0 Vancouver copy.

 

[tth2]

On 4/7/2023 at 4:55 AM, lou_fine said:

OMG..............is this one of the big big boys that you sold off last year to Schmell since it's ending in a few short short hours from now:    

https://comics.ha.com/itm/silver-age-1956-1969-/western/the-rifleman-10-dell-1962-cgc-nm-96-off-white-to-white-pages/a/40229-82361.s?type=KMrm-criteo-comics-dynamic-segwindeal-061621

 

If so, HOW COULD YOU as nobody should ever give up on a big boy like this one here, especially when it's also a File Copy and one of only 4 highest graded copies to date.    

So no, that was not mine.  Nor were most of the books in the auction.

Actually, the list of books that I sold that have now resold in Doug's auction will probably seem anticlimactic now, and I'm actually embarrassed to disclose that I owned some of these books.  But anyways, here they are:

Lone Ranger #16 MH 9.2 $1,080 (previously sold for $1,020)

Lone Ranger #17 MH 9.2 $1,680 (previously sold for $1,920) 

Lone Ranger #18 MH 9.8 $2,040 (previously sold as a 9.6 for $1,920)

Lone Ranger #19 MH 9.4 $1,680 (previously sold for $1,560)

Lone Ranger #26 MH 9.6 $2,040 (previously sold for $1,980)

Lone Ranger #27 9.4 $576 (previously sold for $2,160)

Lone Ranger #28 MH 9.4 $780 (previously sold as a 9.2 for $2,040)

Lone Ranger #29 MH 9.8 $1,920 (previously sold as a 9.6 for $1,560) 

I marked in red those he lost money on (assuming he was the direct buyer at the last auction).   

[tth2]

Total loss was $2,364, although to be fair almost all of that came from the LR 27 & 28.  If you excluded those 2 books, he would've eked out a small profit.

[comix4fun]

On 4/6/2023 at 4:14 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

There’s a boardie here that chased Johnny Crawford around at a convention until he finally autographed this issue. Crawford initially refused, not much liking the infamy of the picture. (He knew what you guys out there were saying - you sickos) But when the boardie persisted, he finally agreed to sign it. Probably just to shut the boardie up about it already. So he autographed. . . The Log itself!!
 

I’ll look thru my messages for who the boardie was that told me

ok it was @comix4funwho told me about getting Johnny Crawford to autograph the log. 
 

and as long as we are on the topic of crazy, how about this:

 

Well, there was no actual "Stalking" or "Chasing" involved.

Johnny Crawford was set up at one of the "Hollywood" shows years ago. These are shows that are filled with actors from 50-80's TV shows and films. 

So, he was there, at a table, charging for signatures and pictures. It's true he didn't want to sign this issue at first but, once he was convinced that infamy was actually pretty cool, he agreed. And the ultimate conversation piece was born. 

 

[mjoeyoung]

I thought the sale of Funnies #57 was interesting.  It sold for $2880 which is a little low but not out of line based on the last 2 ($3300 in 2014 and $3001 in 2021) sales on the GPA.  BUT, according to Heritage:

The Funnies #57 (Dell, 1941) CGC VF/NM 9.0 Cream to off-white pages. Intro and origin of Captain Midnight. One of the three best copies of the issue according to CGC. Overstreet 2022 VF/NM 9.0 value = $4,620; NM- 9.2 value = $6,600. CGC census 3/23: 1 in 9.0, 2 higher. From Doug’s Dell & Gold Key Comics Collection.

I'm not used to seeing individual books on Heritage selling for so far below guide, especially not a top 3 issue.
 

 

 

[lou_fine]

On 4/7/2023 at 7:03 AM, tth2 said:

Total loss was $2,364, although to be fair almost all of that came from the LR 27 & 28.  If you excluded those 2 books, he would've eked out a small profit.

Actually, the real loss would be much bigger than that once you factor in the Heritage auction fees, the CPR fees since it looks like he "reworked" every single one of them into new slabs hoping for an upgrade, along with any other additional ancillary costs like shipping, etc.  

 

On 4/6/2023 at 10:21 PM, tth2 said:

Lone Ranger #27 9.4 $576 (previously sold for $2,160)

Lone Ranger #28 MH 9.4 $780 (previously sold as a 9.2 for $2,040)

No surprise that the Lone Ranger 27 turned into a big loss as it's never a good idea to pay over 10X top of guide for a non-pedigree book.  

Looks like he had a very poor batting average (i.e. 0.375 average) with his CPR game here with only 3 successful upgrades out of 8 books.  

As for the Lone Ranger 28, kind of funny and ironic that he still lost money on the book even though it got bumped up by one grade increment here from a CGC 9.2 up to a CGC 9.4 condition grade.  Reminds me of some of the Crackajack Funnies in one of his prior Doug's Showcase Auctions that also sold for less money even though they got bumped up by one or two grades from when they were auctioned off at CC back in 2021.  The only difference there being he had a perfect batting average there with his upgrades, as they pretty much all came with the QES sticker when they were initially auctioned off on CC.    

 

On 4/6/2023 at 10:21 PM, tth2 said:

I'm actually embarrassed to disclose that I owned some of these books.

Absolutely no reason at all to be embarrassed to owing some stunning Edgar Church Mile High copies of a well known character like our "kemosabe".  

Heck, I own a few of the later long forgotten Target Comics, and if not for the Church pedigree, they would otherwise be virtually worthless which they probably still are anyways.  But absolutely happy to have them in my personal collection since they are just absolutely stunning with eye-popping colors and blinding snow white pages.    

Edited April 8, 2023 by lou_fine

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

On 4/7/2023 at 10:04 AM, comix4fun said:

 

Well, there was no actual "Stalking" or "Chasing" involved.

Johnny Crawford was set up at one of the "Hollywood" shows years ago. These are shows that are filled with actors from 50-80's TV shows and films. 

So, he was there, at a table, charging for signatures and pictures. It's true he didn't want to sign this issue at first but, once he was convinced that infamy was actually pretty cool, he agreed. And the ultimate conversation piece was born. 

 

It's hard to believe little Johnny Crawford has already passed.  Whew, where does the time go?

[comix4fun]

On 4/7/2023 at 5:43 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

It's hard to believe little Johnny Crawford has already passed.  Whew, where does the time go?

Yeah, I know. This phenomenon seems to have accelerated these last few years with all our heroes from 60's and 70's TV. 

[Professor K]

On 4/7/2023 at 12:38 AM, jimbo_7071 said:

I was surprised by how much the 9.6 non-ped Four Color 33 resembled the 9.0 Vancouver copy.

 

Hi jimbo, is it the same book? Please excuse me if the answer is an obvious yes (or no). If yes which I think it is , wow what an upgrade. I wonder why it lost it's pedigree status upon it's metamorphosis. 

[jimbo_7071]

On 4/7/2023 at 7:04 PM, Professor K said:

Hi jimbo, is it the same book? Please excuse me if the answer is an obvious yes (or no). If yes which I think it is , wow what an upgrade. I wonder why it lost it's pedigree status upon it's metamorphosis. 

Other copies have that odd printing defect with the little white rings on the yellow areas, but they're in different locations on other copies. I looked at many copies and couldn't find any two that had those spots in the exact same locations as each other.

Both books also have the same mis-wrap and a color-breaking spine tic in the exact same location.

I'm sure a clever defense attorney would try to raise reasonable doubt, but I think the prosecution could secure a conviction in this case.

If it is the same book, maybe the seller thought that including the pedigree on the label would hurt the final hammer price if prospective buyers knew that the book used to be a lowly 9.0.