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Blue vs Yellow- valuation
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god503

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1 minute ago, kav said:

fine-first thing i searched hulk 181 8.0-here we see non sig sold for more than sig.  search took abt 5 sec.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Incredible-Hulk-181-cgc-8-0-Signed-By-John-Romita-Sr-WHITE-PAGES/274272456357?hash=item3fdbe98ea5:g:hPQAAOSwHnpeSbkd

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Incredible-Hulk-181-CGC-8-0-Vol-1-Beautiful-High-Grade-1st-App-of-Wolverine/362970452322?hash=item5482b99162:g:z7cAAOSwCf5eliha

Kav, those where on auctions, you dont think those are too much of unpredictable variables verse majority asking price?

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This came up a while back and it was no effort to find non sig books selling for more than sigs for any book worth anything-repeatedly.  any book, any grade.  I'm not just whistling dixie.

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Just now, god503 said:

Kav, those where on auctions, you dont think those are too much of unpredictable variables verse majority asking price?

whether its auctions BIN wampum or whatever-abt 50% of the time, non sigs sell for more than sigs for any book in any grade of decent value.

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2 minutes ago, kav said:

fine-first thing i searched hulk 181 8.0-here we see non sig sold for more than sig.  search took abt 5 sec.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Incredible-Hulk-181-cgc-8-0-Signed-By-John-Romita-Sr-WHITE-PAGES/274272456357?hash=item3fdbe98ea5:g:hPQAAOSwHnpeSbkd

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Incredible-Hulk-181-CGC-8-0-Vol-1-Beautiful-High-Grade-1st-App-of-Wolverine/362970452322?hash=item5482b99162:g:z7cAAOSwCf5eliha

$45 for shipping???? :o

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1 minute ago, god503 said:

If your telling me that yellow labels on CL and heritage are cheaper than Ebay....  I AM SO THERE MAN!

Any of the auction sites should be regularly checked. BUt the best deals are not going to be books like ASM 301 

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ADAMANTIUM

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6 minutes ago, kav said:

This came up a while back and it was no effort to find non sig books selling for more than sigs for any book worth anything-repeatedly.  any book, any grade.  I'm not just whistling dixie.

Kav is correct, it also takes a lot more time and effort to sell an ss'd copy and especially at a good price. When starting to go down a signature route, you have to be prepared to stick it out.... and stay passionate unto the better end. Hopefully it doesn't curb anyone's collecting attitude along the way lol

I wouldn't say right or wrong, but like with anything, its work!

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then these people got ripped off then if we are going to use auctions:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/INCREDIBLE-HULK-181-CGC-8-0-11-74-1ST-FULL-APP-OF-WOLVERINE-WHITE-PAGES/333511061155?hash=item4da6ceeea3:g:1ooAAOSwCOJeQaim

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Incredible-Hulk-181-CGC-8-0-1974-0251066001-1st-Full-Appearance-of-Wolverine/202927169111?hash=item2f3f66de57:g:MqwAAOSwXSZeScNG

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1 minute ago, speedcake said:

You don’t know what SA stands for but you spittin’ facts, huh? Ok

:sumo: :roflmao:

You are basing my intelligence level based on the fact i did not know Kav was alluding to Silver age with that abbreviation?

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3 minutes ago, speedcake said:

I’ve not yet questioned your intelligence :P

feel free, if it makes you feel better about your self worth...  :bigsmile:

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8 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

I would love to see @valiantman's census on most SS of a book, with the book info you might be able to guess someone's participation with the book and signature frequency...

Probably the most would be McFarlane spawn and an easy tell, still

As far as Stan goes, I tried to look up the ones I had in the census upon his passing, and there were at most 3-400 SS'd period no matter who did them with the following issues....thay have thousands of blue labels

FF 49

ASM 129 & 50

X-Men 12 & 13

Thor 168

IH 180 &181

 

The highest SS books are pretty much the same as the highest universal books, since "slab-worthy" often means "signature-and-slab-worthy".

Amazing Spider-Man 300    1988    Signature    4277
Spawn 1    1992    Signature    3782
New Mutants 98    1991    Signature    3001
Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8    1984    Signature    2662
Wolverine Limited Series 1    1982    Signature    2610
Infinity Gauntlet 1    1991    Signature    2390
X-Men 1 Sketch Cover    2010    Signature    2353
Spider-Man 1 Silver Edition    1990    Signature    2309
The Marvels Project 1 Sketch Cover    2009    Signature    1979
Uncanny X-Men 266    1990    Signature    1960
Batman 1    2011    Signature    1896
Amazing Spider-Man 361    1992    Signature    1891
Amazing Spider-Man 700    2013    Signature    1745
X-Men 1    1991    Signature    1741
Spider-Man 1    1990    Signature    1623
Venom: Lethal Protector 1    1993    Signature    1507
Avengers 1 Sketch Cover    2010    Signature    1482
Amazing Spider-Man 129    1974    Signature    1418
Amazing Spider-Man 648 Sketch Edition    2011    Signature    1359
New Mutants 87    1990    Signature    1338
Incredible Hulk 181    1974    Signature    1337
Outcast 1    2014    Signature    1326
Amazing Spider-Man 252    1984    Signature    1247
Batman 0 We Can Be Heroes Edition    2012    Signature    1242
Fallen Son: The Death of Captain America 3 Sketch Edition    2007    Signature    1222
Incredible Hulk 340    1988    Signature    1206
Amazing Spider-Man v2 #36    2001    Signature    1101
Spider-Man 1 Gold Edition    1990    Signature    1100
Amazing Spider-Man 1 Sketch Edition    2014    Signature    1083
X-Men 1 Special Collectors Edition    1991    Signature    1077
Wolverine 1    1988    Signature    927
Amazing Spider-Man 1    2014    Signature    893
Batman: Damned 1 Variant Cover    2018    Signature    889
Amazing Spider-Man 362    1992    Signature    868
Star Wars 1 Sketch Edition    2015    Signature    837
Dark Knight III: The Master Race 1 Sketch Edition    2016    Signature    832
Star Wars 1    1977    Signature    822
Amazing Spider-Man 316    1989    Signature    814
Secret Invasion 1 Sketch Edition    2008    Signature    763
Amazing Spider-Man 298    1988    Signature    758
X-Men 141    1981    Signature    757
Walking Dead 109 Sketch Edition    2013    Signature    754
Tales of the Teen Titans 44    1984    Signature    747
Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 1    1984    Signature    746
Batman: Damned 1    2018    Signature    743
New Teen Titans 2    1980    Signature    738
Iron Man 1    1968    Signature    737
New Mutants 1    1983    Signature    728
Amazing Spider-Man 1 Sketch Edition    2015    Signature    724
Venom 3    2018    Signature    707

Here's a link that will pull the latest from the CGCdata.com with grades (normally takes a few seconds to run): http://www.cgcdata.com/cgc/search/comicyearstart/1925/label/sig/orderby/submissions/variants/yes/

 

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1 minute ago, valiantman said:

The highest SS books are pretty much the same as the highest universal books, since "slab-worthy" often means "signature-and-slab-worthy".

Amazing Spider-Man 300    1988    Signature    4277
Spawn 1    1992    Signature    3782
New Mutants 98    1991    Signature    3001
Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8    1984    Signature    2662
Wolverine Limited Series 1    1982    Signature    2610
Infinity Gauntlet 1    1991    Signature    2390
X-Men 1 Sketch Cover    2010    Signature    2353
Spider-Man 1 Silver Edition    1990    Signature    2309
The Marvels Project 1 Sketch Cover    2009    Signature    1979
Uncanny X-Men 266    1990    Signature    1960
Batman 1    2011    Signature    1896
Amazing Spider-Man 361    1992    Signature    1891
Amazing Spider-Man 700    2013    Signature    1745
X-Men 1    1991    Signature    1741
Spider-Man 1    1990    Signature    1623
Venom: Lethal Protector 1    1993    Signature    1507
Avengers 1 Sketch Cover    2010    Signature    1482
Amazing Spider-Man 129    1974    Signature    1418
Amazing Spider-Man 648 Sketch Edition    2011    Signature    1359
New Mutants 87    1990    Signature    1338
Incredible Hulk 181    1974    Signature    1337
Outcast 1    2014    Signature    1326
Amazing Spider-Man 252    1984    Signature    1247
Batman 0 We Can Be Heroes Edition    2012    Signature    1242
Fallen Son: The Death of Captain America 3 Sketch Edition    2007    Signature    1222
Incredible Hulk 340    1988    Signature    1206
Amazing Spider-Man v2 #36    2001    Signature    1101
Spider-Man 1 Gold Edition    1990    Signature    1100
Amazing Spider-Man 1 Sketch Edition    2014    Signature    1083
X-Men 1 Special Collectors Edition    1991    Signature    1077
Wolverine 1    1988    Signature    927
Amazing Spider-Man 1    2014    Signature    893
Batman: Damned 1 Variant Cover    2018    Signature    889
Amazing Spider-Man 362    1992    Signature    868
Star Wars 1 Sketch Edition    2015    Signature    837
Dark Knight III: The Master Race 1 Sketch Edition    2016    Signature    832
Star Wars 1    1977    Signature    822
Amazing Spider-Man 316    1989    Signature    814
Secret Invasion 1 Sketch Edition    2008    Signature    763
Amazing Spider-Man 298    1988    Signature    758
X-Men 141    1981    Signature    757
Walking Dead 109 Sketch Edition    2013    Signature    754
Tales of the Teen Titans 44    1984    Signature    747
Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 1    1984    Signature    746
Batman: Damned 1    2018    Signature    743
New Teen Titans 2    1980    Signature    738
Iron Man 1    1968    Signature    737
New Mutants 1    1983    Signature    728
Amazing Spider-Man 1 Sketch Edition    2015    Signature    724
Venom 3    2018    Signature    707

Here's a link that will pull the latest from the CGCdata.com with grades (normally takes a few seconds to run): http://www.cgcdata.com/cgc/search/comicyearstart/1925/label/sig/orderby/submissions/variants/yes/

 

The type of sig also plays a roll you know.  A hulk 181 with trimpe wein and lee is worth alot more than one with just romita...   3 are dead... the other one still alive.  

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The type of sig also plays a roll you know.  A hulk 181 with trimpe wein and lee is worth alot more than one with just romita...   3 are dead... the other one still alive.  

None of those details are in the CGC Census.  I was asked what the highest number of signature slabs were, and I provided the answer from the CGC Census.

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2 minutes ago, speedcake said:

The only “fact” is that “it depends”, as has already been pointed out. Singling out a few books that prove one point while ignoring the sea of others that refute it ain’t changing that fact, baby!

when all things are equal, like method of purchase, type of sig etc, the sig will get a premium.   Cant you say that slabbed books get more of a premium than raw???  Want to dispute that one???

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It would appear there are not a lot of silver age on that list, and thank you @valiantman

Perhaps @kav the SA current set of collectors feel like you that it may not be wise for signature series, but that could always easily change. Given the current rate between high low sales, it doesn't seem that bad to current collectors, but in the future is anyone's guess  :x

 

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QUESTION FOR EVERYONE HERE!!!!!     WOULD YOU TURN DOWN A SIG FROM JERRY SEIGEL ON A SUPERMAN BOOK IF YOU HAD THE CHANCE!!!!!!!  I DARE YOU TO SAY YES!

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