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[ADAMANTIUM]

Happy Birthday too!

@shadroch

Seemed a happy topic, I wanted to expound, thank you for contributing 

 

Edited December 5, 2020 by ADAMANTIUM

[Beige]

Eventually there will be a down-turn across the board.

We saw it with AF#15 and eventually it will affect every book.

Sixth Gun, Peter Panzerfaust, Chew, etc etc are all great examples of $500+ books now being , well, NOT $500 books anymore.

The wheat will separate from the chaff, and the books with solid pedigree and history will bounce back (ala AF #15), and the filler / spec / one-shot movie books won't.

I guess it's a decision for all to make individually.

 

Will Deadpool Last? - if so - under-valued.

Batman that Laughs? - if so - undervalued

X-Men Dark Phoenix - if you think X-Men #101 is a $4000+ book in 9.8, then keep it.

You get my drift.

I have confidence in 1st  Thor, X-Men, Hulk, Spidey, + Batman keys etc to survive a hefty downturn and recover.

Spiderman #101 ($9200 in 9.8 last sale) + X-Men #101 ($4200 last 9.8) - well, I don't want to be holding THOSE babies during a crash.

 

It's a judgement call, always has been, but nearly $10,000 for Spidey #101 is bonkers.

And unsustainable.

So if you were thinking of culling the herd, now may be a good time.

[Hollywood1892]

3 minutes ago, Beige said:

Eventually there will be a down-turn across the board.

We saw it with AF#15 and eventually it will affect every book.

Sixth Gun, Peter Panzerfaust, Chew, etc etc are all great examples of $500+ books now being , well, NOT $500 books anymore.

The wheat will separate from the chaff, and the books with solid pedigree and history will bounce back (ala AF #15), and the filler / spec / one-shot movie books won't.

I guess it's a decision for all to make individually.

 

Will Deadpool Last? - if so - under-valued.

Batman that Laughs? - if so - undervalued

X-Men Dark Phoenix - if you think X-Men #101 is a $4000+ book in 9.8, then keep it.

You get my drift.

I have confidence in 1st  Thor, X-Men, Hulk, Spidey, + Batman keys etc to survive a hefty downturn and recover.

Spiderman #101 ($9200 in 9.8 last sale) + X-Men #101 ($4200 last 9.8) - well, I don't want to be holding THOSE babies during a crash.

 

It's a judgement call, always has been, but nearly $10,000 for Spidey #101 is bonkers.

And unsustainable.

So if you were thinking of culling the herd, now may be a good time.

What about ASM 300?

[THE_BEYONDER]

@shadroch

 

[Hollywood1892]

Happy Birthday @shadroch

[Beige]

2 minutes ago, Hollywood1892 said:

What about ASM 300?

Again, only my opinion but with 23,500 on the census and 1350 of them being 9.8, then it's not a hard book to find.

They threw Tom Hardy at Venom, and the movie bombed, so I guess this is one comic that is actually driven by Venom itself, not "Venom - The Movie".

So, yes, I think this is a book that will always have a market - where you set the 9.8 price is an individual call.

Personally - I think $4000 - $5000 is too much.

There are a ton of unslabbed ASM #300's out there (plus 10 x 9.9 already).

I'd be comfortable at the price it was 4-5 years ago.

Your mileage may vary!  

[THE_BEYONDER]

1 minute ago, Beige said:

Again, only my opinion but with 23,500 on the census and 1350 of them being 9.8, then it's not a hard book to find.

They threw Tom Hardy at Venom, and the movie bombed, so I guess this is one comic that is actually driven by Venom itself, not "Venom - The Movie".

So, yes, I think this is a book that will always have a market - where you set the 9.8 price is an individual call.

Personally - I think $4000 - $5000 is too much.

There are a ton of unslabbed ASM #300's out there (plus 10 x 9.9 already).

I'd be comfortable at the price it was 4-5 years ago.

Your mileage may vary!  

ASM 300 is a 4K+ book in 9.8 now?

 

 

[Hollywood1892]

42 minutes ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

ASM 300 is a 4K+ book in 9.8 now?

 

 

$3600 with 26 minutes left

 

https://comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FSEARCH.ASP%3FFocusedOnly%3D1%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Damazing%2B300%26GO%3DGO%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_1445855&id=1445855&itemType=0

 

 

 

It ended at $4300

Edited December 5, 2020 by Hollywood1892

[Beige]

55 minutes ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

ASM 300 is a 4K+ book in 9.8 now?

 

 

I know, right?

[Moondog]

12 hours ago, blazingbob said:

Shouldn't you be on the golf course in florida?

 

I'll have you know it was a balmy 42 here in Chicago today.  Shot 75 with 2 three-putts.  Playing again tomorrow.

[Sweet Lou 14]

2 hours ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

ASM 300 is a 4K+ book in 9.8 now?

 

 

That book has OW/W pages.  Normally I would hesitate to comment, but I can't imagine why this particular copy would be bid up like this when WP copies are practically growing on trees.

[Hollywood1892]

22 minutes ago, Sweet Lou 14 said:

That book has OW/W pages.  Normally I would hesitate to comment, but I can't imagine why this particular copy would be bid up like this when WP copies are practically growing on trees.

I didn't even realize that! What a relief that it went for $4300, which is low at the moment for that book

[THE_BEYONDER]

5 hours ago, Beige said:

I know, right?

That’s a lot of money for such a common book.  I’d feel more comfortable paying 10k for the ASM 101 

[Beige]

28 minutes ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

That’s a lot of money for such a common book.  I’d feel more comfortable paying 10k for the ASM 101 

If I had either - I'd sell them both.

$15,000 for ASM #300 + ASM #101 in 9.8?

2 Years ago, you'd be under the care of Nurse Ratched for thinking about such prices.

There are so many other books I'd buy instead, and feel comfortable that I wouldn't lose my shirt if things went south.

You can still get a Hulk #1 in 4.0 - 4.5 for the same money.....

 

[Sweet Lou 14]

2 hours ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

That’s a lot of money for such a common book.  I’d feel more comfortable paying 10k for the ASM 101 

Do you have a link to the 101?

[Get Marwood & I]

On 11/28/2020 at 5:54 PM, Gaard said:

I've been surprised how much I've enjoyed sharing/showing off my collection. When I was a kid, I didn't know anyone else who was into comics. As I got older (and found others who shared the passion that I had) it was so much more enjoyable.

I've been pondering that recently Gaard, and remembering when I was a kid buying comics with my big brother. They were some of the happiest collecting days that I can recall. Even though the books themselves - old UK reprints - had no real value, the excitement came from sharing the experience. The UK weeklies used to have centrespread posters and we would buy a handful of books each - they were priced at 1p and 2p in dirty great marker pens - and we would look excitedly through them to see who got the best posters on the way home. Hulk, Spidey, Galactus etc got a 'wow, look at that!', lesser characters a groan. It was such fun. 

Now I'm older I can see how collecting has a solitary, almost lonely aspect to it. It's you against the hunt. Your collection, your records. And the thrill you get when 'that book' is found - well, it's one of the greatest feelings there is. But as the years go by, I start to see how meaningless it all is if no one shares those feelings. I suspect a good number of us have had that feeling of elation in respect of our hobbies, and then that tinge of sadness that no one else 'gets it'. There have been times when I have posted new finds here and I am practically falling off of my chair with excitement. And then the slow realisation dawns - once again - that no one shares that excitement - at least not in respect of the specific book you have discovered. And that is when it all starts to become clear. That is when you start to ask yourself, "Why am I doing this? What is the point?"

I go in phases myself, up one minute, down the next. But I wish now that I had allowed myself to share what I do more, rather than keep it insular as I have tended - and still tend, to do. It's not just comics either. You go and see a film. It moves you somehow, you want someone else to understand what it meant to you. I suppose it's what Roy Batty was trying to say before his four years were up. Look at what I've seen, look at what I've done. What was the point? Where is the monument to it, however small? In a few years time, who will give a damn that this fool put together the only run of Charlton pence copies in the whole world?

So my feeling is this. The best you can hope for is to enjoy what you do in the moment. If you can share it with others, and I mean really share, then that is the next level of success, of joy. So carry on, while you enjoy it, can afford it and have the space and energy to do it. But once you stop enjoying it, once the doubts and negative feelings won't go away, have the courage to knock it on the head.

That would be a good last post, to make on a forum wouldn't it? 

 

[Gaard]

This might sound a little weird, but one of the fondest memories I have revolving around collecting as a kid was showing off old SA Spideys to my dad. He had absolutely no interest in comics, and probably thought his oldest son was some kind of weirdo, but he never discouraged me from collecting comics, and whenever I showed him some books he would show interest (probably faking it) - but I felt like King Poop for a while.

[Hollywood1892]

37 minutes ago, Gaard said:

This might sound a little weird, but one of the fondest memories I have revolving around collecting as a kid was showing off old SA Spideys to my dad. He had absolutely no interest in comics, and probably thought his oldest son was some kind of weirdo, but he never discouraged me from collecting comics, and whenever I showed him some books he would show interest (probably faking it) - but I felt like King Poop for a while.

My wife is having a bath, I'm going to feel like King poop right now...bwahaha

In all seriousness tho, it is a special feeling of pride in a fathers interest in his sons endeavors...feigned or not

[THE_BEYONDER]

3 hours ago, Sweet Lou 14 said:

Do you have a link to the 101?

It was just a hypothetical choice between a 9.8 ASM 101 & a 9.8 300

[Hollywood1892]

3 minutes ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

It was just a hypothetical choice between a 9.8 ASM 101 & a 9.8 300

You would choose a small character (not in terms of size but rather popularity and appearances) over someone like Venom?

What do you base it on? Age of the book?

Both are valuable but not so much in terms of the character imo but rather in terms of which run they are appearing in. Yes Morbius is getting a movie but let's take IM 55 for instance, that book is half the value of ASM 101 in the same grade, but Thanos is a far larger character in terms of success then a wannabe Dracula.

The ASM 300 is a paradox

Venom is supremely popular and the book is always in demand but readily available, so in my opinion it does not meet the criteria in terms of value by the supply and demand method but rather the "how much will someone pay for it?" Method in terms of a items true value

Someone paid 15k for a 9.8 with 5 sigs and a remark, and 2 of those sigs were by lesser known artists and writers