Overs and Unders - Books you'd hold / buy, those you'd sell asap 2 2

[Beige]

So hypothetical discussion - doesn't matter if you own the book, love the book, hate the book - just please, no personal snark.

If (when) comic prices 'settle' after this latest burst which 3 are you happy to hold and which 3 are you going to throw overboard asap whilst you can?

We can all take it as a given that things like the top 20 SA keys are blue-chip - so lets go down a tier or two

For the sake of consistency  - assume all are blue label 9.8's

HOLD

Walking Dead #1 (+ #2 as well) - Book has had it's dip, and has rebounded solidly, can't see this ever being a sub $1800 book ever again. Low print run, show not been on 'free to air' yet.

Tomb Of Dracula #10 - Had it's movie spec hike and is down (not that I say 'down' lightly) to the $10K mark. Solid film trilogy, one of the earliest Black 'super-heroes', plenty of reboot growth. Still the best opening of ANY Comic based film!   Only 45 9.8's on census

New Mutants #98  - Common as muck, but every kid knows Deadpool. At around $1000 for a 9.8 , and with (IMHO) massive growth potential, then despite the large print run, it's a slow and solid climber - even with 3300 9.8's out there.

Honorable Mention - Batman #49 - 1st Vicki Vale, Mad Hatter, and Joker Cover from 1948 - and you can still get a 6.0 / 6.5 for around $3000? That's a hold!

 

ABANDON SHIP

ASM #101 - Jeez, the sizzle on this one. It's an obscure character, in a medium filled with Vampires - at $9,000 I'm not seeing any way but down when the movie hits the screen. May mitigate any fall with only 33 9.8's on census, but $9000+ for Morbius? Not for me.

X-Men #101 - $3500 - $4000 for Dark Phoenix is way over. They have had enough goes with Jean Grey - she doesn't translate to the big-screen, and is a bit bland. Stinker of a movie didn't help. 139 x 9.8 but there are plenty out there....Speaking of which

ASM #300 - We all love Venom - I don't love it enough to pay $4500 for a book with 1059 x 9.8 already of a book so, so  common (23,600 slabbed with CGC alone)

Honorable Mention - Marvel Previews #95 - WTAF?  $10,000 and rising, all on the back of social media pressure.

 

Have fun gang, hopefully this could be educational as well as entertaining!

 

Edited December 11, 2020 by Beige

[whomerjay]

Assuming this is about the colllector/part time dealer holding/abandoning books with/without appreciation potential for the purpose is selling later or ASAP.

My thoughts are not profound and are probably held by many on the boards, with slight variations.

Generally Hold- just about every Horror/Sci-FI/cool SuperHero/GGA/Romance/War/Crime/appreciated artist GA book not printed (and survived) in abundance. 

Generally Abandon- anything expensive you can replace easily at same or lesser price in the future. Yeah, you can make the wrong call here, and sometimes big ticket books just keep getting bigger, but holding books that have been on a long sustained run and are already out of the range of many, I have to worry the bubble is close.

Some but not all of my specific preferences:

hold Baker Romance, Suzie, bronze HG Archie, all HG Planets, any cheap cool cover in any grade. 

abandon: most  anything selling for more than $20 printed after 1970 except select indies, Dave Stevens, Wrightson,  Wonder Woman.

Single books: hold CDNP 24, Teen-age Romances 9, Archie 50, 53, Science Comics 4, Crusader from Mars 1,2. All but Crusader are currently pricey but probably still have plenty of ceiling to reach.

Abandon: The Thing 16. 

i agree with your premise that supply of books in 9.8 with ridiculous census numbers will one day greatly exceed demand, and drop precipitously. That said, you have to explain IH 181. NM 98 may prove to be similar.

I should practice what i preach. Lotta sellers’ remorse lately. Pain lessened slightly by overpaying for replacement books at CLink auction.
My 

[Poekaymon]

Books I own = well priced

Books I want = cray-cray

[D2]

HOLD

Court of Owls

Ever since The New 52 became obsolete, Snyder and Capullo's Court of Owls have really taken a dive. Now with new movie buzz and the realization that The Court of Owls is quite possibly the freshest villain concept in the Batman universe, they could be making a comeback.
These books, 1-6 are as low as they've ever gotten, and I suspect these are their bottom dollar prices.

GSX 1

The 1st appearances of Colossus, Nightcrawler, and most importantly Storm... Disney now has a strangle hold on the X-Men franchise. Much like what Beige mentioned above, The Phoenix Saga, Dark Phoenix Saga, and Days of Future Past storylines have been done to death. I suspect Marvel to pivot from the core 5 members to the new 5, with a very slow reintroduction of Wolverine, means the other 3 will have a chance to breathe and grow.

 

ABANDON SHIP

Spawn

Spawn is hot as Hades' balls right now as speculators are running with this one hard. Anything Todd McFarlane is skyrocketing, Spawn being no exception. Doubling down with the upcoming movie buzz and prices are going to continue to climb.
I still think there is money to be made here and the engine doesn't seem to be slowing down, but I have a hard time believing Gunslinger Spawn will sustain it's commanding price of $1,000 for a 9.8 blue label

 

Edited December 11, 2020 by D2

[jsilverjanet]

17 hours ago, Beige said:

, all on the back of social media pressure.

 

Can you elaborate on this?

[theCapraAegagrus]

Hold: All Modern variants.

Abandon: All Pre-Code Horror.

[THE_BEYONDER]

55 minutes ago, jsilverjanet said:

Can you elaborate on this?

 

[Beige]

4 hours ago, jsilverjanet said:

Can you elaborate on this?

I saw in the thread on the book, that the interest in this book was generated by a youtube group?

I haven't seen it personally, so I guess ask the guy who posted that info @Ryan.

Is the info incorrect - I'll happily amend the post if so?

Posted December 5

   On 12/5/2020 at 3:22 AM, BigLeagueCHEW said:

What the heck is this about?

eBay Auction

 

Is this the same book that blew up YouTube over the summer when it originally sold for $2000? If so, that buyer is looking awfully prescient. 

[Ryan.]

@Gem_Mint

[Ryan.]

33 minutes ago, Beige said:

I saw in the thread on the book, that the interest in this book was generated by a youtube group?

I haven't seen it personally, so I guess ask the guy who posted that info @Ryan.

Is the info incorrect - I'll happily amend the post if so?

Posted December 5

   On 12/5/2020 at 3:22 AM, BigLeagueCHEW said:

What the heck is this about?

eBay Auction

 

Is this the same book that blew up YouTube over the summer when it originally sold for $2000? If so, that buyer is looking awfully prescient. 

Comictom101 had the buyer who paid $2000 over the summer on his channel to verify the sale. At the time, that sale seemed cray. I don't know if that constitutes "social media pressure" but it was certainly the beginning of the rapid escalation of interest in this book. 

Incidentally I would sell that book and put the money into GA. But that's just me. 

[kav]

Buy and hold all Kirby Thor after #110.
Still affordable.  Wont be one day.

[Ron C.]

Not what the OP was asking about.

 

Edited December 12, 2020 by Ron C.

[Gem_Mint]

11 minutes ago, Ryan. said:

@Gem_Mint

We just report on the sales. The only reason we talk about a book is because someone bought it.

I have seen the same person winning MP95 auctions. Looks like someone is investing serious money on a low census book.

it’s hard to argue MP95 not being a significant Miles key when you see previews books for Spawn, TMNT, and Hellboy selling for even more that their first comic book appearances.

[Ryan.]

1 minute ago, Gem_Mint said:

 

I have seen the same person winning MP95 auctions. Looks like someone is investing serious money on a low census book.

Interesting. 

[Poekaymon]

56 minutes ago, kav said:

Buy and hold all Kirby Thor after #110.
Still affordable.  Wont be one day.

Why not?

[kav]

10 minutes ago, Poekaymon said:

Why not?

I started buying kirby thors abt 5 years ago.  I felt they were undervalued.  I paid around $5-$10 for them.  Many of the books popped like 165 which is now around $200 or first enchantress which I picked up for $20 now $100-$300.  Also 134 popped.  The rest of them have been steadily rising as I suspected.  And they will continue to do so.  I told several friends over the years buy thor 134 and the other 2 issues of the colonizer story.  No one lissened.
As far as why I just have a knack for seeing undervalued books-I bought several copies of FF Giant #6 because I felt first annihilus was important.  And some others which I do not want to mention as I am still collecting them.

[1950's war comics]

19 minutes ago, kav said:

I started buying kirby thors abt 5 years ago.  I felt they were undervalued.  I paid around $5-$10 for them.  Many of the books popped like 165 which is now around $200 or first enchantress which I picked up for $20 now $100-$300.  Also 134 popped.  The rest of them have been steadily rising as I suspected.  And they will continue to do so.  I told several friends over the years buy thor 134 and the other 2 issues of the colonizer story.  No one lissened.
As far as why I just have a knack for seeing undervalued books-I bought several copies of FF Giant #6 because I felt first annihilus was important.  And some others which I do not want to mention as I am still collecting them.

i think you have become a comic guru 

[kav]

7 minutes ago, 1950's war comics said:

i think you have become a comic guru 

 I've never speculated on books and bought multiple copies and been wrong.  I've been hugely right on several.  $$$.  And I dont do moderns.  SA only.

[kav]

Ps I think one day Nexus will be hot.  But it could be a long time off.  The writing and art is just too amazing.  

[Mercury Man]

HOLD:  Fantastic Four- Silver/Bronze/Copper Age- all issues.  Never know what the MCU will do with them. 

 

SELL:  Batman Adventures #12 and New Mutants #98.  No reason, other than I personally don't care for the characters.