THE MARVELS starring Brie Larson, Iman Vellani and Teyonna Parris (2023) 9 9

[Broke as a Joke]

On 1/6/2022 at 12:47 PM, djzombi said:

You do remember there was a time when it was a case of "Guardians of..what?  What is Marvel thinking by not sticking to their A-listers!"

Yes, and since then they can't repeat the magic that first Guardians movie had going for it, especially with Phase Bore.  

[@therealsilvermane]

On 1/6/2022 at 3:57 PM, paperheart said:

the first two acts of WW were infinitely superior to CM; the final third was just as bad

I "loved" how Steve Trevor and Diana wasted like a half hour of my time recruiting a bunch of loser soldiers who were supposed to be specialists and who did practically nothing other than shoot a gun or drive them around. That was some great storytelling and character building there.

I also "liked" how Steve kept mansplaining everything to Diana to the point I wanted Diana to just say "Okay I get it, Mr Know It All."

And I'm sorry, Gal Gadot is great to look at and the Israeli accent is very charming and exotic, but does anybody really think she can act? Her curled brow thing to emote distress works for a little while but that seems to be all she has. I'll admit her looks and charm take her pretty far but it couldn't get past the awful story of WW84.

[media_junkie]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:12 PM, @therealsilvermane said:

I'll admit her looks and charm take her pretty far but it couldn't get past the awful story of WW84.

I don't think you will find many/anyone here that disagrees with you on the fact that WW84 should never have been made.

[drotto]

On 1/6/2022 at 3:59 PM, @therealsilvermane said:

Tell you what. When folks stop accusing films like Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Shang-Chi, and Eternals of being SJW or whatever you want to call it you know what I mean, I'll stop accusing folks of being toxic. I'd love to talk about films on the basis of their story and relation to the comics alone.

People are not doing that here, and you are acting and presenting yourself as if we are.  In most cases when people bring these topics up it is in response to one of your posts. We are not being toxic, we disagree, that does not make us evil or hateful. We are allowed to feel that aspects of these films are agenda based, without that having any bearing on our underlying character. 

 

You can have discussions about diversity and inclusion, about when it is done well, and when it is done poorly.  Like most topics, there is plenty of room for discussion about those things without treating someone with disrespect.  People here for the most post are presenting their viewpoints in a fairly mature manner (yes we sometimes slip or get snarkey), but it does not warrant you tangentially calling us various pronouns. 

 

 

[Bosco685]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:19 PM, drotto said:

People are not doing that here, and you are acting and presenting yourself as if we are.  In most cases when people bring these topics up it is in response to one of your posts. We are not being toxic, we disagree, that does not make us evil or hateful. We are allowed to feel that aspects of these films are agenda based, without that having any bearing on our underlying character. 

 

You can have discussions about diversity and inclusion, about when it is done well, and when it is done poorly.  Like most topics, there is plenty of room for discussion about those things without treating someone with disrespect.  People here for the most post are presenting their viewpoints in a fairly mature manner (yes we sometimes slip or get snarkey), but it does not warrant you tangentially calling us various pronouns. 

@CGC Mike I'm telling you we need to expand your scope to cover The World because there are mean people saying nasty things about Captain Marvel and Brie Larson not on this forum. But some feel because of this they need to fix the problem here on the CGC messaging boards.

We must save the children and their pets from these people. And our own sanity hearing how their actions MUST be addressed here - or else!! 

[drotto]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:12 PM, @therealsilvermane said:

I "loved" how Steve Trevor and Diana wasted like a half hour of my time recruiting a bunch of loser soldiers who were supposed to be specialists and who did practically nothing other than shoot a gun or drive them around. That was some great storytelling and character building there.

I also "liked" how Steve kept mansplaining everything to Diana to the point I wanted Diana to just say "Okay I get it, Mr Know It All."

And I'm sorry, Gal Gadot is great to look at and the Israeli accent is very charming and exotic, but does anybody really think she can act? Her curled brow thing to emote distress works for a little while but that seems to be all she has. I'll admit her looks and charm take her pretty far but it couldn't get past the awful story of WW84.

Then you missed the entire point of the group she assembled from a moral, character, and story standpoint.  This was done to show Wonder Woman's compassion, care, and love for everyone.  That despite her enormous power, she viewed these people as equals and friends, even when she was literally Godlike. That she possessed the moral clarity and character to love all people even if they had flaws, were outcasts, and if they were broken. It needed to be there to make her relatable, and human. That group and her actions showed the audience her moral compass. That relatability is why people loved the character so much.

[@therealsilvermane]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:10 PM, Broke as a Joke said:

Yes, and since then they can't repeat the magic that first Guardians movie had going for it, especially with Phase Bore.  

Marvel Studios has only has only given us cinema magic again and again and again from Ant-Man to Spider-Man No Way Home. 

[@therealsilvermane]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:30 PM, drotto said:

Then you missed the entire point of the group she assembled from a moral, character, and story standpoint.  This was done to show Wonder Woman's compassion, care, and love for everyone.  That despite her enormous power, she viewed these people as equals and friends, even when she was literally Godlike. That she possessed the moral clarity and character to love all people even if they had flaws, were outcasts, and if they were broken. It needed to be there to make her relatable, and human. That group and her actions showed the audience her moral compass. That relatability is why people loved the character so much.

She ignored them for the most part except for the Native American smuggler who needlessly told her his story by the campfire about how stuff was taken from his people and thus wasted another two or three minutes of my time. Diana seemed to get nothing from his story and it added nothing to the story as far as I could tell. I'm still not sure why he was there mission-wise as he didn't really smuggle anything as I remember.

And why would they recruit Charlie the sharp shooter if he couldn't even shoot straight?

Edited January 6, 2022 by @therealsilvermane

[drotto]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:37 PM, @therealsilvermane said:

She ignored them for the most part except for the Native American smuggler who needlessly told her his story by the campfire about how stuff was taken from his people and thus wasted another two or three minutes of my time. Diana seemed to get nothing from his story and it added nothing to the story as far as I could tell. I'm still not sure why he was there mission-wise as he didn't really smuggle anything as I remember.

And why would they recruit Charlie the sharp shooter if he couldn't even shoot straight?

Watch the movie again, while small each one of the characters gets there moment and screen time with Diana. They were all given character moments.  

 

Charlie was about redemption, and giving everyone a chance at redemption. He was more than a broken sharpshooter, even without that skill he still had value as a person.

[▫️]

On 1/7/2022 at 12:19 AM, drotto said:

People are not doing that here, and you are acting and presenting yourself as if we are.  In most cases when people bring these topics up it is in response to one of your posts. We are not being toxic, we disagree, that does not make us evil or hateful. We are allowed to feel that aspects of these films are agenda based, without that having any bearing on our underlying character. 

 

You can have discussions about diversity and inclusion, about when it is done well, and when it is done poorly.  Like most topics, there is plenty of room for discussion about those things without treating someone with disrespect.  People here for the most post are presenting their viewpoints in a fairly mature manner (yes we sometimes slip or get snarkey), but it does not warrant you tangentially calling us various pronouns. 

 

 

You’ve put some thought in your posts and its unfortunate there will be no reciprocation. Not sure if he’s being obtuse on purpose or if he actually believes what he writes. Either way, you’ll get more cheerleading and 1.1 billion dollar mentions because we all know box office determines whether a movie is good or bad.

[drotto]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:45 PM, ▫️ said:

You’ve put some thought in your posts and its unfortunate there will be no reciprocation. Not sure if he’s being obtuse on purpose or if he actually believes what he writes. Either way, you’ll get more cheerleading and 1.1 billion dollar mentions because we all know box office determines whether a movie is good or bad.

I can name several billion dollar movies that are marginal at best.

 

Transformers

Later sequels to Priates of the Caribbean 

Avatar is not highest grossing movie of all time special

All the Disney Star Wars movies

 

Heck that accounts for almost 1/2 of them, and I did not put CM there.

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by drotto

[▫️]

On 1/7/2022 at 12:48 AM, drotto said:

I can name several billion dollar movies that are marginal at best.

 

Transformers

Later sequels to Priates of the Caribbean 

Avatar is not highest grossing movie of all time special

 

I believe Shawshank Redemption didn’t even make one-tenth of Captain Marvel’s gross so its clearly an inferior film.

[Bosco685]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:50 PM, ▫️ said:

I believe Shawshank Redemption didn’t even make one-tenth of Captain Marvel’s gross so its clearly an inferior film.

[Cat]

On 1/7/2022 at 6:59 AM, @therealsilvermane said:

Tell you what. When folks stop accusing films like Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Shang-Chi, and Eternals of being SJW or whatever you want to call it you know what I mean, I'll stop accusing folks of being toxic. I'd love to talk about films on the basis of their story and relation to the comics alone.

STOP having arguments in your own mind. NOBODY here is doing what you're accusing us of. Never have, never will, so stop treating us like we are the kind of simpleton who would. Treat us respectfully like adults, and just maybe you'll get the same treatment in return, instead of all the mockery you bring onto yourself. 

[Bosco685]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:55 PM, Mecha_Fantastic said:

STOP having arguments in your own mind. NOBODY here is doing what you're accusing us of. Never have, never will, so stop treating us like we are the kind of simpleton who would. Treat us respectfully like adults, and just maybe you'll get the same treatment in return, instead of all the mockery you bring onto yourself. 

[@therealsilvermane]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:44 PM, drotto said:

Watch the movie again, while small each one of the characters gets there moment and screen time with Diana. They were all given character moments.  

 

Charlie was about redemption, and giving everyone a chance at redemption. He was more than a broken sharpshooter, even without that skill he still had value as a person.

Okay, except this wasn't a therapy self-help mission. It was a serious mission to get behind enemy lines and find Ares or whoever. Diana and Steve did it despite the clowns that were traveling with them. 

Btw, did Steve Trevor really have to blow up the plane full of explosives? Couldn't he have just landed the airplane and then blow it up thus negating the need for Diana to bring him back in the body of a man who had no say in the matter in WW84? Yes he could have.

[chrisco37]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:50 PM, ▫️ said:

I believe Shawshank Redemption didn’t even make one-tenth of Captain Marvel’s gross so its clearly an inferior film.

And the only female in it was the cheating wife. Misogyny at its finest!

[drotto]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:50 PM, ▫️ said:

I believe Shawshank Redemption didn’t even make one-tenth of Captain Marvel’s gross so its clearly an inferior film.

Blade Runner

It's a Wonderful Life

A Christmas Story 

 

Are all time classics and bombed at the box office.

[kav]

On 1/23/2020 at 3:50 AM, Bosco685 said:

Me too. And with Into the Spider-Verse, it had 3 directors (Peter Ramsey, Bob Persichetti, Rodney Rothman). How did that work so smoothly?

James Cameron would never go for this.  He is a hands on director and fully in charge of every microscopic detail.

[drotto]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:57 PM, @therealsilvermane said:

Okay, except this wasn't a therapy self-help mission. It was a serious mission to get behind enemy lines and find Ares or whoever. Diana and Steve did it despite the clowns that were traveling with them. 

Btw, did Steve Trevor really have to blow up the plane full of explosives? Couldn't he have just landed the airplane and then blow it up thus negating the need for Diana to bring him back in the body of a man who had no say in the matter in WW84? Yes he could have.

Nobody is defending parts of WW's 3rd act or the monumental turd of WW84.

 

The no man's land, taking of the town, and celebration after is one of the best sequences ever in a superhero film.

Edited January 6, 2022 by drotto