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Using Scantily Women To Sell Comics
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On 5/7/2022 at 6:22 PM, THE_BEYONDER said:

Scantily clad?  Are you from the 50s?:insane:

Yes, I was born in the 1950s, and I was raised as a Catholic. Dressing inappropriately and talking about sex was discouraged by the church, and therefore discouraged by my Mom and Dad.

Maybe this is not necessarily true for large cities, it certainly was true of our small farm town of 1500 people.

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On 5/7/2022 at 8:06 PM, horrorfan said:

The two constants in modern America are using sex to sell everything and guys white knighting for women on the internet.

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Honestly, none of you have heard women collectors decry the way most women are depicted in today's comics? You might want to check out the controversy of the Manara variant cover of Spider-Woman #1. The same could be said about many of the early Image comics, especially those drawn by Rob Liefeld.

An artist has a right to draw what s/he wants to draw. And others have the right to criticize the work. Advertisers have the right to advertise in the way that they see fit. And others have the right to be critical of their methodology.

There are plenty of people that say things that I don't agree with. For the most part, I just let it go, as I realize that nothing I can say or do will change their mind. I certainly don't label these people are offensive, misogynistic, completely rude, and ignorant. I will be the first to agree that I made a controversial statement; just because I feel this way doesn't mean that I am misogynistic or that I am a "creep," as @Cobbledclam proclaimed.

I made a big mistake by assuming that these women were asked to do this by their superiors. Obviously, that is not the case. However, I am sure you can ask plenty of women who were told to do something by a superior, and felt they really had no other choice.

Yes, I will be the first to admit that I am a "dinosaur." I say that all the time to people. I am sure that if you were to show those pictures to people of my generation, there would be a significant number of people that feel the same way. Have none of you been criticized by your grandparents for what you did or how you dressed? I remember wearing jeans to church, and my grandfather became almost apoplectic. My grandparents had no qualms about stating that they felt about how what they thought about how I, and my brothers and sister, acted and dressed. Does that mean my grandparents were misogynistic to my sister in doing so? Or even worse, were they "creeps" to all of us?I remember when girls were required to wear dresses/skirts to school, and how they were often asked to kneel down so the distance from their knee to the hem could be measured. Were the administrators at my school being misogynistic toward these girls? Or, even worse, were they "creeps?"

I assumed that these women were made/asked to do this, which is clearly not the case. You are absolutely correct that I have no right to tell a woman (or anyone else, for that matter) what to wear or how to act. I have stated that I made an incorrect assumption, which led me to make a comment that shouldn't have been made.

I have done my best to explain my thinking regarding my original post. It no longer makes any sense to continue to argue with everyone who disagrees with me. If you want to continue to pile on, be my guest. I just want to get out of this before people break out the torches and pitchforks. :flamed:

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On 5/7/2022 at 6:48 PM, Axelrod said:

My suspicion is that a cute girl holding it up or standing in front of it, has never, actually, sold a product that the guy wasn’t going to buy anyway, but guys (and some gals too) still advertise with them ‘cause, well, guys.

This is as good an opening as any for this. From Strangers in Paradise (™ and © Terry Moore):

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On 5/7/2022 at 2:01 PM, Math Teacher said:

I go to conventions for two reasons - 1) I am going to spend an inordinate amount of time in the dealer area, as I am always in search of books, and 2) There are times when I go because I want to meet an actor, writer, or artist. 

At Planet Comicon a few years ago, I was able to the main cast of ST: TNG to sign a group photo, except Patrick Stewart. It is now one of my prized possessions.

I stay away from the booths and the cos-play areas, as I have absolutely no interest in either of them.

He must have been narrating TED at that time. Not his fault.

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On 5/7/2022 at 11:12 PM, Math Teacher said:

I remember when girls were required to wear dresses/skirts to school, and how they were often asked to kneel down so the distance from their knee to the hem could be measured. Were the administrators at my school being misogynistic toward these girls? Or, even worse, were they "creeps?"

Yes.

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On 5/8/2022 at 3:21 AM, MAR1979 said:

I own a mere 3 books from the last 12.5 years that are slabbed this is one of them. Which makes sense given I've not purchased a newly on-sale book since Aug 30, 2011.  

Now this is how you sell a book!
 

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But that’s an Adam Hughes cover.

Which is the comic book equivalent of classical art figurework.

It’s an admittedly fine line.

 

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On 5/8/2022 at 11:15 AM, Gaard said:

nice waves

I concur. I’m reminded of Botticelli’s Venus.

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On 5/8/2022 at 9:20 AM, jdandns said:

Wait, are you saying there's pornography available on the internet?

How have I not heard of this?

It's all about this Lemon Party thing. I don't know much about that kind of thing, but I hear Lemon Parties are all the rage.... 

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On 5/7/2022 at 11:12 PM, Math Teacher said:

I remember when girls were required to wear dresses/skirts to school, and how they were often asked to kneel down so the distance from their knee to the hem could be measured. Were the administrators at my school being misogynistic toward these girls? 

I think that's pretty much the definition. 

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