First Generation CGC Holders (2000-03) 1 1

[buttock]

Here's a hot take: Some 1st gen slabs are accurately graded, some are overgraded, and some are undergraded.  

[musicmeta]

On 12/27/2022 at 2:53 PM, lou_fine said:

Never quite understood the rationale for this, especially when many boardies here have this opinion on the first generation slabs:  

If this is the generally accepted opinion with the first generation slabs, does this not meant that they should encourage higher bids upon resale?  

Oh, I like my old labels but if it hurts sales when I decide it's time to sell, then maybe it's best to get new cases.  Not sure... If it makes no difference, then I will keep the old labels

[lou_fine]

On 12/27/2022 at 4:08 PM, musicmeta said:

Oh, I like my old labels but if it hurts sales when I decide it's time to sell, then maybe it's best to get new cases.  Not sure... If it makes no difference, then I will keep the old labels

I believe you need to reread my post as I am agreeing with the previous boardie who said that the old label books indicates a much lower chance of the book having been pressed which means it should generate interest from more bidders and hence a higher price.  

[southern cross]

On 12/27/2022 at 2:12 PM, buttock said:

Here's a hot take: Some 1st gen slabs are accurately graded, some are overgraded, and some are undergraded.  

Question.

Were you the boardie I swapped a river city copy Battlefield 8 for two pre-hero TTA?

If not sorry for the confusion. It was like maybe 10-15 years ago.

[southern cross]

On 12/27/2022 at 4:32 PM, lou_fine said:

I believe you need to reread my post as I am agreeing with the previous boardie who said that the old label books indicates a much lower chance of the book having been pressed which means it should generate interest from more bidders and hence a higher price.  

You'd think that would be the case but I don't think it's widely known or accepted.

And it's my opinion why I love first generation slabs.

I'm on other boards and it seems to me when collectors are submitting to a grading company that most default to automatically pressing vintage books first or thru the grading company.

So for a collector who is looking for a crack and press a first gen slab maybe a ideal candidate though not all will bump in grade. 

Then there are collectors who don't like the look of first generation slabs so never buy or bid so maybe that factor doesn't increase the price and is a big variable?

[Wipple]

My favorite old label in my collection. C/OW pages but I ain’t cracking!

[lou_fine]

On 12/27/2022 at 4:48 PM, southern cross said:

I'm on other boards and it seems to me when collectors are submitting to a grading company that most default to automatically pressing vintage books first or thru the grading company.

Well, as per their previous experience in the other collectibles field prior to entering the comic book hobby, set up your business model to ensure that it's not a one and done deal. 

Set it up in such a way that you can subtlety tweak your undisclosed grading standards, labels, slabs, or what have you over time in such a way as to significantly impact submissions so that customers will not only happily, but hurriedly rush back to you in order to throw more and more money at your feet in order to resubmit the exact same book back to you time and time again.   

[musicmeta]

On 12/27/2022 at 6:32 PM, lou_fine said:

I believe you need to reread my post as I am agreeing with the previous boardie who said that the old label books indicates a much lower chance of the book having been pressed which means it should generate interest from more bidders and hence a higher price.  

Great! I'll keep my old label books as they are.  

[buttock]

On 12/27/2022 at 5:40 PM, southern cross said:

Question.

Were you the boardie I swapped a river city copy Battlefield 8 for two pre-hero TTA?

If not sorry for the confusion. It was like maybe 10-15 years ago.

Yes!

[THE_BEYONDER]

On 12/27/2022 at 7:58 PM, Wipple said:

My favorite old label in my collection. C/OW pages but I ain’t cracking!

Nice wrap and deep colours

Probably an OW/W if subbed today 
 

Great looking copy 

[southern cross]

On 12/27/2022 at 7:58 PM, buttock said:

Yes!

You still have that book?

I still have those two TTA and I'm still hunting the others for my run.

I did come across a Battlefield 1 like a 1.5 at my lcs the other day and thought about the trade.

[Wipple]

On 12/27/2022 at 11:09 PM, THE_BEYONDER said:

Nice wrap and deep colours

Probably an OW/W if subbed today 
 

Great looking copy 

Agreed. I’ll put the wolverine bendy in the safe deposit box with it. 

[buttock]

Yup!  Hanging onto that one for sure.  That's awesome you still have the others.  

[wolvergeek]

I have quite a few old label red and blue books but these are my best.

[Brandon Shepherd]

On 12/23/2022 at 6:36 PM, Brandon Shepherd said:

My three survivors.

I forgot about this one. Whoops!

Edited December 28, 2022 by Brandon Shepherd

[MAR1979]

As I recall this self-submitted Action 500, was the first 9.8 copy on the census.  A $7.00 purchase in 1998 from Showcase New England.  An ultra sharp copy, the scans don't do it justice.

[Brandon Shepherd]

On 12/28/2022 at 9:43 AM, MAR1979 said:

As I recall this self-submitted Action 500, was the first 9.8 copy on the census.  A $7.00 purchase in 1998 from Showcase New England.  An ultra sharp copy, the scans don't do it justice.

Wow, that’s an amazing book! Congratulations! You’re probably correct on that being the first 9.8. I got mine in 2009 and it was only 1 of 4 in 9.8 back then.

I’m jealous! 

[LOC Collectibles]

I prefer the first and second generation labels. I felt like the main focus was on the book. 

[mlansdown]

I still have lots of the early gen labels - I prefer to spend money on more comic books versus money on re-slabbing fees!

 

[The Lions Den]

On 12/26/2022 at 10:23 AM, MAR1979 said:

Curious about opinion of others on 1999-2003 CGC grading.

What would you like to know?