MAY1979 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 PSA as cards go since 2021 ruthlessly maintains their census medians. Reserving highest grades per era for their largest submitting clients. Of course that can't be done until they have a baseline. This means those who use need to get their subs in early and that greggy if he uses them, will eventually make out like a bandit ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanJD Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Considering how CGC handles books and the quality they have been putting out lately, I welcome the competition. TC33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/19/2024 at 12:53 PM, shadroch said: If you eliminate the competition, you can eliminate customer service. Agreed. Competition is always good.... for the consumer. MAY1979 and Bumble Kitty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/19/2024 at 2:42 PM, namisgr said: I wonder if Steve B. will be involved. Absolutely. This is a requirement. Larryw7, namisgr, trademarkcomics and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan_W Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/19/2024 at 2:42 PM, namisgr said: I wonder if Steve B. will be involved. This is the free space on the Bingo card. Chip Cataldo, namisgr and trademarkcomics 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan_W Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/19/2024 at 1:06 PM, miraclemet said: PSA is just the CGC of cards, so I dont see any real differentiator unless they can use their existing infrastructure/process/efficiency to drasticly reduce turnaround times vs CGC. Now if it had been BGCS, and their sub-grades listed on the label, that would have been interesting, cause I think that hits CGC right where customers complain (ie grader notes complaints and/or lack of understanding of what contributes to the books grade) Based on the interview in the link provided in the OP, my guess is the differentiator is mixed in somehow with their proposed uses of AI and machine learning. The issue I see is they will have to come up with something that resonates strongly with collectors for a given hook to work, and the usage they use as an example (identifying counterfeits), while important, is not likely to do that. It would have to be something much flashier, like developing some type of mechanized grading or partial grading that assists a human grader, for this to really catch on. The bulk of current collectors with dozens, hundreds, or more CGC slabs are not likely to jump ship easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaluglydudes Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 They had a well-documented track record of authenticating trimmed cards a few years back. I'm not a sports card person so I don't know if that has continued or if they've cleaned up their act. Bad combo if the allusions made about the head grader are true. MAY1979 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY1979 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) On 7/19/2024 at 3:44 PM, royaluglydudes said: They had a well-documented track record of authenticating trimmed cards a few years back. I'm not a sports card person so I don't know if that has continued or if they've cleaned up their act. Bad combo if the allusions made about the head grader are true. The first card they graded, the so called McNeil/Gretzky T206 Wagner later on in open court evidence was submiited and convicted felon Bill Maestro admitted to trimming. This was decade ago yet PSA still has no alteration note and the now tainted grade of 8 remains on their public DB. As is often noted on net54 regarding the Newport CA based firm. "The fish stinks from the head down" But yes additional competition is good for customers and often spurs innovation. Edited July 19 by MAR1979 royaluglydudes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/19/2024 at 4:01 PM, MAR1979 said: The first card they graded, the so called McNeil/Gretzky T206 Wagner later on in open court evidence was submiited and convicted felon Bill Maestro admitted to trimming. This was decade ago yet PSA still has no alteration note and the now tainted grade of 8 remains on their public DB. As is often noted on net54 regarding the Newport CA based firm. "The fish stinks from the head down" But yes additional competition is good for customers and often spurs innovation. I don't own any sports cards but with that issue why is PSA more trusted than BSG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/19/2024 at 12:20 PM, Black_Adam said: How could anyone do it better than CGC? They could adhere to the posted turnaround times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/19/2024 at 12:56 PM, grendelbo said: On 7/19/2024 at 12:52 PM, ADAMANTIUM said: need to send two ps1 games Now that it has been my bday, I'll send them in, coming soon! 🤠 grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY1979 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) On 7/19/2024 at 2:45 PM, NewWorldOrder said: I am sure he will eventually. I mean whats one more company for him to bounce around to Reminds me of the line in Willie, Mickey and The Duke; "and Bobby Bonds can play for anyone" Edited July 19 by MAR1979 NewWorldOrder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulksdaddy1 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 IMO, this new PSA division will be DOA. Smartbass1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 Their card holders are completely sealed, making it almost impossible to switch out cards In house autograph authentication and a slew of others benefits, it'll be interesting to see what gets applied to their comic division. aardvark88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel013 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 9.2 I hope it's okay to post this pic. I almost forgot about posting pix of the competition. Edited July 19 by grendel013 posted competitor pic - photo edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grendelbo Posted July 19 Popular Post Share Posted July 19 On 7/19/2024 at 3:58 PM, grendel013 said: 9.2 I hope it's okay to post this pic. I almost forgot about posting pix of the competition. Is that the HK-Aerial from Terminator? Yorick, Danno616, grendel013 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grendel013 Posted July 19 Popular Post Share Posted July 19 On 7/19/2024 at 6:17 PM, grendelbo said: Is that the HK-Aerial from Terminator? Now I see Nessie! Danno616, rlextherobot, surfertso and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microchip Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/20/2024 at 8:17 AM, grendelbo said: Is that the HK-Aerial from Terminator? Dude, you are seriously dialled into these movies! grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Cataldo Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 More scammers scamming. I don't need a stinking card grading company to tell me the condition of a comic book. davidking623 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mijael.Levy Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/19/2024 at 11:52 AM, ADAMANTIUM said: What about video games? Idk what to look for in sales, but need to send two ps1 games, are cgc comparable? The Wata case is far better that the CGC case but if you are not gonna keep for personal collection CGC is great to sell videogames and they sell very well . I have 3 games grading now with CGC. Btw Wata belongs to PSA now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
