kc120us Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Are those straight averages, or medians? I think medians would give a better assesment of the information. Man, I really can't wait till I finish my X-men run. I just want to finish it!!!! I'm tired of not having a run finished. Early SA X-men books are crappy anyway I just want to concentrate on TOS as soon as possible because SA X-men is so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kc120us Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 As long as you still love X-Men PS: Good luck getting a spot for the NYCC. Its gonna be nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfRulers Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Are those straight averages, or medians? I think medians would give a better assesment of the information. Man, I really can't wait till I finish my X-men run. I just want to finish it!!!! I'm tired of not having a run finished. Early SA X-men books are crappy anyway I just want to concentrate on TOS as soon as possible because SA X-men is so bad. are you telling me that you were not on the edge of a deep sleep when trying to read through SA X-men. Like #3 for instance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfRulers Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 (edited) As long as you still love X-Men PS: Good luck getting a spot for the NYCC. Its gonna be nuts X-men are still my favorite. Just many of the early SA issues were terrible in terms of story. Kirby's art from this time never fails though Everybody knows that X-men shine when Cockrum and Claremont come in. ...Steranko did a great job too, but it was too short lived. And I sure hope some spots open up for me in NYC. I don't want to miss out on the nuttiness. Edited January 12, 2007 by KingOfRulers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldsbestcomics Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 All right, MutantKeys asked me to post this one for him so here it is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MutantKeys Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Man that is a great book!!! I love that cover!!! 9.9!!! Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_allan Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 All right, MutantKeys asked me to post this one for him so here it is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybolt Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 All right, MutantKeys asked me to post this one for him so here it is: Wow, you could poke an eye out with those sharp corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CycleGirl Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 All right, MutantKeys asked me to post this one for him so here it is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CycleGirl Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Are those straight averages, or medians? I think medians would give a better assesment of the information. X-Men #1 - 15 Median = 6.5 X-Men #16 - 66 Median = 8.5 Does that help? Here are a couple of graphs that I made. It shows the grade breakdown of the census for issues 30 - 66. This first one shows 9.2 to 9.8 . This graph really shows the difference in population from issue to issue in the high grades. The second one shows 8.0 to 9.8 . Comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix215 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Are those straight averages, or medians? I think medians would give a better assesment of the information. X-Men #1 - 15 Median = 6.5 X-Men #16 - 66 Median = 8.5 Does that help? Here are a couple of graphs that I made. It shows the grade breakdown of the census for issues 30 - 66. This first one shows 9.2 to 9.8 . This graph really shows the difference in population from issue to issue in the high grades. The second one shows 8.0 to 9.8 . Comments? It is interesting to see which issues are hard to find or the lack of ones slabbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc120us Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 All right, MutantKeys asked me to post this one for him so here it is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 9.9! Wow! The issue itself never did anything for me though. I felt it was a "throwaway" of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CycleGirl Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Are those straight averages, or medians? I think medians would give a better assesment of the information. X-Men #1 - 15 Median = 6.5 X-Men #16 - 66 Median = 8.5 Does that help? Here are a couple of graphs that I made. It shows the grade breakdown of the census for issues 30 - 66. This first one shows 9.2 to 9.8 . This graph really shows the difference in population from issue to issue in the high grades. The second one shows 8.0 to 9.8 . Comments? It is interesting to see which issues are hard to find or the lack of ones slabbed. Thanks phoenix. That's what I noticed too! There is a lot of variability in the CGC population from issue to issue. Did you notice, for example, how issue #45 is almost 3 times as common as #46? Why aren't there more #46s and so many #45s? Here are a couple of more graphs. The first is of issues #1-15 . I expanded the grades shown all the way down to VG. I also lumped the grades together 4.0 & 4.5 are combined, for example. I've noticed that issues #11 and #15 tend to be hard to find in CGC. I guess this explains it. CGC just hasn't slabbed that many. Here are issues 16 - 29 CycleGirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix215 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 (edited) Are those straight averages, or medians? I think medians would give a better assesment of the information. X-Men #1 - 15 Median = 6.5 X-Men #16 - 66 Median = 8.5 Does that help? Here are a couple of graphs that I made. It shows the grade breakdown of the census for issues 30 - 66. This first one shows 9.2 to 9.8 . This graph really shows the difference in population from issue to issue in the high grades. The second one shows 8.0 to 9.8 . Comments? It is interesting to see which issues are hard to find or the lack of ones slabbed. Thanks phoenix. That's what I noticed too! There is a lot of variability in the CGC population from issue to issue. Did you notice, for example, how issue #45 is almost 3 times as common as #46? Why aren't there more #46s and so many #45s? Here are a couple of more graphs. The first is of issues #1-15 . I expanded the grades shown all the way down to VG. I also lumped the grades together 4.0 & 4.5 are combined, for example. I've noticed that issues #11 and #15 tend to be hard to find in CGC. I guess this explains it. CGC just hasn't slabbed that many. Here are issues 16 - 29 CycleGirl I have noticed a noticable lack of good quality #11's as compared to say #10's. Its is amazing how little there is, the same as #15. But I also look at the ones which are key issues. Look at #14, first appearance of the Sentinels, is almost as high as any of the issues #1-5 Edited January 14, 2007 by phoenix215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomega Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Thanks phoenix. That's what I noticed too! There is a lot of variability in the CGC population from issue to issue. Did you notice, for example, how issue #45 is almost 3 times as common as #46? Why aren't there more #46s and so many #45s? X-Men 45 was a warehouse find. There are a huge number of high grade copies out there. Issue 37,38, 50, 53, 61 and 89 are other examples of warehouse finds or similar. Issue 89 I think is more prevalent due to it being part of the infamous Mile High II "pedigree." I have searched for high grade X-Men for many years and you start to see a pattern of what is out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc120us Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Are those straight averages, or medians? I think medians would give a better assesment of the information. X-Men #1 - 15 Median = 6.5 X-Men #16 - 66 Median = 8.5 Does that help? Here are a couple of graphs that I made. It shows the grade breakdown of the census for issues 30 - 66. This first one shows 9.2 to 9.8 . This graph really shows the difference in population from issue to issue in the high grades. The second one shows 8.0 to 9.8 . Comments? It is interesting to see which issues are hard to find or the lack of ones slabbed. Thanks phoenix. That's what I noticed too! There is a lot of variability in the CGC population from issue to issue. Did you notice, for example, how issue #45 is almost 3 times as common as #46? Why aren't there more #46s and so many #45s? Here are a couple of more graphs. The first is of issues #1-15 . I expanded the grades shown all the way down to VG. I also lumped the grades together 4.0 & 4.5 are combined, for example. I've noticed that issues #11 and #15 tend to be hard to find in CGC. I guess this explains it. CGC just hasn't slabbed that many. Here are issues 16 - 29 CycleGirl I have noticed a noticable lack of good quality #11's as compared to say #10's. Its is amazing how little there is, the same as #15. But I also look at the ones which are key issues. Look at #14, first appearance of the Sentinels, is almost as high as any of the issues #1-5 I think a lot of it has to do with the quality of production. It varied issue to issue. Perhaps #10 and #14 and #45 happen to have had superior production runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CycleGirl Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I have noticed a noticable lack of good quality #11's as compared to say #10's. Its is amazing how little there is, the same as #15. But I also look at the ones which are key issues. Look at #14, first appearance of the Sentinels, is almost as high as any of the issues #1-5 Yes, #14 does have a really high census. I suppose that keys like #12 and #14 must have been recognised almost from the start as having potential as collector's items. However, the disparity seems to go beyond keys versus non-keys. For example, issue #21 isn't a key, but there are a lot more of them around than either the #20 or #22. Is part of this due to white covers versus dark covers? Does it seem like the white cover books have a lot more high grades in the census? CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CycleGirl Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 X-Men 45 was a warehouse find. There are a huge number of high grade copies out there. Issue 37,38, 50, 53, 61 and 89 are other examples of warehouse finds or similar. Issue 89 I think is more prevalent due to it being part of the infamous Mile High II "pedigree." I have searched for high grade X-Men for many years and you start to see a pattern of what is out there. That explains the spikes a lot! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
