Wayne-Tec

On 12/18/2018 at 9:22 PM, aszumilo said:

Not the same,  Wayne-Tec was missing a slabbed page.  The E-Bay auction is a coverless book.

Wane-Tec's page

 

E-Bay book

Thank you to all who have kept an eye out on my missing/stolen Action Comics #1 page. I think about it every day. My search will never give up.

3 hours ago, Chicago Boy said:

Let’s bring this thread into 2018 post the lastest Tec 27 coverless sans CF sale and the Action 1 page 

I can’t imagine a Batman page from Tec #27 selling for less than $10,000.

If all 3 pages could be had for $30,000 or less, that would be a great deal.

10 hours ago, domuhnator said:

Payment Via paypal, or cash/check/money order. I like Bitcoin too.

Nobody on the timeout list/probation's

Book will be shipped free fast and secure via USPS or Fedex Overnight express Anywhere in the USA, or Canada. Worldwide Shipping available just PM to Inquire. I have A lot of experience shipping overseas. 

No returns on slabs

First form of  wins in the thread or PM.  Trumps any ongoing negotiations. But Negotiations are welcome.

Lots of Positive feedback on my ebay - Domuhnatorcomics  and I have a kudos thread on here with all positive feedback as well.

I can Provide Many many many reputable references if anyone is concerned. 

 

The book.

This is my undercopy so I figured its about time to let it go. More Fun Comics 73. First Appearance of Aquaman, Green Arrow and Speedy! One of the few few books where you have Not one, But TWO major first appearances.

This is Technically an incomplete copy with a story affecting piece out of page 32. The Centerfold is complete and present. No grader notes that I saw. Perfect copy if you have an incomplete copy you need to marry.

There was a Complete cover less copy that sold recently on ebay for $7300

Since this one is incomplete were going to go with $6000 Shipped anywhere in the USA or Canada. Trades would have to be pretty juicy. Mainly looking for cash.

Thanks for looking!

- Dom

If you’re interested in selling the More Fun #53, I might be interested, shoot me a DM.

2 hours ago, Chicago Boy said:

$40,388  No centerfold.  Brittle. No staples   chips.  Tape & Mold.  Whoa. 

$41,388

If this Action #1 page 1 sells for only 30K, someone will be getting a bargain.

Correction. I do not have scans for:

(1) 9.2

(1) 7.5

(1) 7.0

(2) 6.5

(2) 5.5

(2) 0.5

Some copies I have archived are no longer on the census, which probably accounts for a few of the books listed above (suspected grade-bump). 

On 8/5/2018 at 3:31 PM, Chicago Boy said:

How many different copies do you currently have ?  

I have 25 of the 32 blue label copies of Detective Comics #27 saved in my archive. It will take some digging to find the few that remain.

2 minutes ago, Chicago Boy said:

More or less than the census ? 

Less than the census. Lots of raw scans though. Getting every copy on the census is nearly impossible. They’re not all available.

3 hours ago, Chicago Boy said:

How many different copies do you currently have ?  

Not as many as I do of Action Comics #1. That archive is pretty extensive.

3 hours ago, sfcityduck said:

Cool pursuit!  

Thanks!

Hi guys,

As many of you know, I have been spending years archiving scans and photos of every copy of Detective Comics #27 (and others) that I can find.

Old books, magazines, message boards, price guides, auction archives, etc. Anywhere I can find them, both raw and slabbed.

If anyone has scans/photos of different copies of Tec #27 that they’re willing to share, please feel free to post them in this thread or shoot me a DM.

Thanks!

52 minutes ago, LDarkseid1 said:

There’s that weird .5 that’s sort of a coverless copy, but isn’t, which is about to sell in the next Comicconnect auction. I’m pretty sure it will sell for around $25K-$30K. Maybe a tad more.

That is a really cool book.

27 minutes ago, woowoo said:

I have a coverless Marvel 1 missing last page that I have had in a pile of beat up golden age for 30 years now. Do you have the last page to Marvel 1

Unfortunately I do not.

8 hours ago, entalmighty1 said:

This is pretty insane to me.

When I was 16, I was playing high school football, chasing girls, and worrying about the SAT/ACT to get into a decent college.  Comics like that were so far out of the realm of possibility to me it didn't even make sense to daydream about owning them.  I worked at a warehouse unloading 18 wheelers for $5.15 an hour, and was lucky to clear $100 bucks a paycheck, half of which went to helping my grandparents with bills.  After buying gas, and paying insurance, I typically had $15 a week to have fun with.  

Where in the world were you finding these books 10 years ago that you were able to afford them when you found them?

I recycled a lot of the same money invested by having to sell or trade when I wanted something new.

Coverless AF #15s could be had for, and don’t quote me on this, $500’ish? I was told that my trimmed Superman #1 centerfold was worth about $1,000 at the time. I won it on eBay for something like $300 and paid $50 for overnight shipping. I called up and established rapports with collectors and dealers.

I’ve been pretty deep into the coverless/key market for a long time. My dream books were the top GA books. I couldn’t afford complete copies so I studied the low grade/coverless/incomplete market closely and founds ways to make it happen.

At 29, I’m on my 5th Batman #1. When I sold my first, I thought I’d never get another.

6 hours ago, LDarkseid1 said:

So do you think Superman #1 has finally hit that threshold? It is third in line to Action 1 and Tec 27.

I think if a complete coverless Superman #1 with OW or better PQ were to be offered through the right venue, it could be close.

1 minute ago, lhcomics said:

Slabbed Bat 1

So we’re probably 1-2 years away from coverless Batman #1s hitting $20,000.

A coverless Cap #1 with OW/W pages sold for $9,556 in September 2017. 

How much would that copy go for today?

55 minutes ago, lhcomics said:

I know of a nice coverless copy that sold for $16,500 within last year.

Slabbed or raw?

1 hour ago, Chicago Boy said:

14k for a coverless has got to be a record.  Extra fuel for the cap 1/ bat 1 debate 

I believe it is a GPA record, with standard CR/OW pages to boot. Nice looking copy but nothing out of this world.

As time goes on, I suspect Batman #1 will pull further away from Cap #1 and grow closer to Superman #1 than many would expect.

23 minutes ago, lou_fine said:

Well, I guess this shows that different people can see exactly the same thing in a different light.

The fact that we've only seen 69 copies (40 Universal) slabbed in nearly two decades of slabbing is likely more a testament that the old time collectors who picked up these grail books at the dawn of comic book collecting when they were around in much greater numbers simply buried them deep into their comic book collections.  They have absolutely no reason or interest to have them slabbed until it comes time for them to sell the book.   Now, that's just my 2-cents on the subject.  

Wayne-Tec:  From your posts here, I imagine you are probably younger than most of us here in the GA Forum and are what I would call a CGC generational collector.  Nothing wrong with that at all, but it's that your comic collecting probably focused in on slabbed books almost right from the get-go and slabs are probably all you have experienced in terms of your comic book collecting life.  With us old and some not so old farts here, our comic book collecting started years or even decades before CGC was even in anybody's thoughts.  For old-time collectors like us, I can't think of a single reason why I would want any of my books to be slabbed unless it was time to sell it.  Especially when the book is what it is and slabbing will not change it at all or give me any additional benefit, but will certainly cost me a lot to have it graded and for what purpose.  

I’m 29, younger than many if not most GA collectors. When I began collecting, most of my books were raw, so the experience is there even though my preference now is to have valuable books slabbed.

But I’m not an owner of a complete Action #1 of Tec #27, so my preferences aren’t relevant. Many of the collectors I know share your outlook on slabbed books, but the majority of them are not Action #1 owners.

From the examples others have shared, we know that there are old school collectors who keep their Action #1(s) raw for a multitude of reasons. Rick’s estimate was 150+, mine is 150-300 remaining in existence.

The question we’re left with, which I believe has extended this discussion, is: Are there closer to 81 raw Action #1s out there (150 total copies) or are there closer to 231 raw Action #1s out there (300 total copies)?

I don’t believe the evidence suggests that 77% of the estimated remaining copies in existence (231) are raw, but even if that were the case, it would still falls into my initial estimate anyway.

30 minutes ago, G.A.tor said:

That’s my point. There are many many many older time collectors that have, or know of copies in collections etc that are not active or publicly plugged in. 

The existing slabbed number is a good representation across the type of conditions etc, but represent a relatively low number of existing copies “known” out there 

CGC has slabbed 69 copies of Action #1. What was your estimate for total number of remaining copies?

It's been over a full calendar year, this thread needs a serious .

On July 12th, a CRM/OW coverless copy of Batman #1 sold for $14,279.32.

LINK

I remember coverless copies being available for 3K back 10-15 years ago. Times are changing.

11 minutes ago, G.A.tor said:

Time frame

Most all 1930s released comics are rarer in existence today compared to later year issues (1940s). Probably more of a took a little time to take hold/interest and initials print runs (risk/reward) against an unestablished market. Once Comics gained traction after a few years (beginning of the 40’s) publishers had more confidence and printed more copies (greater potential for survival rates today)

During 1938-1939, the print runs were smaller (someone more qualified than I can share specifics), the public had much less incentive to keep those fewer copies because the hobby/genre wasn't a thing yet and...in the case of Action Comics #1 and Detective Comics #27, only a small percentage of those books contain Superman and Batman content. Those books don't scream Superman and Batman the way Superman #1 and Batman #1 do. The characters are featured less prominently on the covers, Batman's 1st app. came in issue "No. 27" and not "No. 1."

The combination of all the above factors makes those 2 books much, much rarer than their Superman #1 and Batman #1 counterparts.