Wayne-Tec

That's an interesting analogy. Typically, earliest incarnations gather the most collecting interest. Would you rather have a Babe Ruth rookie card or a card from his best professional season?

34 minutes ago, geofan said:

It is  a repro cover...it's a coverless copy that once belonged to the comic historian Ron Goulart.

I was hoping to pickup a cover that just sold on eBay, but got beat by around $100.

Would love to pick up a cover but I know that's going to be tough.

Still a really cool piece. You must be a pretty big fan of this book to have 2 copies.

56 minutes ago, geofan said:

Hi Gents...I've been a Fan of this thread for awhile, I had to find my copies to finally become a member...

So here goes...I hope you guys like them. 

What is the NG? Repro cover?

42 minutes ago, Chicago Boy said:

Characters evolve (so do their uni's)  but it's still Bruce Wayne as The Bat-Man,Clark Kent as Superman, Steve Rogers as Cap  That being said, I'd rather have a Flash 1 and an AA 16 than it's SA counterparts.  I  count these as the first appearance of the character in general

All characters evolve. Different names/costumes are significant changes and if those changes make Flash #1 and AA #16 less desirable to some, so be it.

But if that's the logic used to weaken interest, that same logic should apply to all characters. Difference/change = decrease in desirability.

Batman is drastically different from "The Bat-Man" as written and illustrated in Tec #27 and throughout the Pre-Robin Tec run. Only in that case, drastic change seems to have little to no impact on desirability.

If the perspective then is: "Significant change is 100% acceptable so long as the names/costumes remain similar", again, so be it.

But I don't think the depth of that logic is strong enough to outweigh well-studied collector's perspectives.

5 minutes ago, Sqeggs said:

I remember when you started a thread on this in CG.  Very sorry to hear that it never turned up. 

Thanks bro.

3 hours ago, woowoo said:

I'm with jaydogrules on this one

Garrick vs. Allen is a bigger difference than Batman (Tec #27) vs. Batman 2017. However, if the differential of the former makes Flash Comics #1 less desirable, than Tec #27 has to take a blow in desirability as well, since that Batman is distant from the one we know and love today.

9 hours ago, Primetime said:

I saw this split wrap sell on eBay about 15 years ago from the Dentist for I believe around $950. Or perhaps that was the opening bid. Can’t recall. 

Now that is awesome.

17 hours ago, Silver Surfer said:

Congrats on the purchase!

Thanks!

8 hours ago, Jaydogrules said:

I don't think I can get behind this logic.   

Sure, characters will evolve and change over the years.  

But the likes of the GA Flash and Green Lantern were summarily abandoned by their publishers for new creations and character identities, and it is those characters that have subsequently changed and evolved, but have ultimately survived the test of time and become ingrained in pop culture.  

-J.

As I said before, different names and costumes are more glaring differences upon first inspection, but in this case, are not drastically different from the changes Batman and Superman have gone through.

Batman is, in some ways, just as a different from the "a fitting end for his kind"/gun-using/neck-breaking Batman as Jay Garrick is from Wally West. There is a lot more to a character than birth names and costume designs.

The interior:

Just saw this at Barnes & Noble:

"Marvel Comics 75 Years of Cover Art"

19 minutes ago, Dark Knight said:

Attractive looking copy.  Not sure if the 11 pages of slightly missing artwork would make a difference in the final hammer price. I would like to see how much of the art is affected for a book of this caliber.

Perhaps that is the reason why an otherwise more attractive looking copy resides in a 2.5 holder.

15 hours ago, Primetime said:

Yes I can.

If this was the cover of Batman #1, would it be enough to push the book ahead of Superman #1 despite the fact that there are far fewer Superman #1's?

2 hours ago, zen514 said:

Nice prediction. good job!

Thanks! 

39 minutes ago, bluechip said:

I have seen many individual pages offered for Action 1 but never any pages from Tec 27.   Wonder if there's a reason for that or if they are out there and I just haven't come across them

 

I've also never seen a loose Tec #27 page offered.

Heritage auctioned off just the Superman pages of Action #1, which were later slabbed and sold off individually. I owned 3 of those pages, one of which was lost by FedEx that I'm still searching for.

If a loose Batman page of Tec #27 were to become available, I suspect it would sell for 10K+. 

Any guesstimates for the 2.5 copy on ComicLink?

LINK

27 minutes ago, Bookery said:

I'm curious if anyone on the boards now owns my old copy (many years ago).  It was a 7.0 (old label) extensive restored... but the restoration was limited to filling in the binder holes (through the whole book).  Attractive copy.

I have no idea who owns it but I might have scans in my archives.

4 hours ago, comicdonna said:

I wish. 

One day. 

10 hours ago, Dark Knight said:

I was surprised by the result as well especially with that edge dust shadow... I'm wondering if the bidders know that the golden age flash is not Barry Allen 

It has become common to dismiss certain characters (books) as "not the popular version you'd expect." Jay Garrick isn't Barry Allen, Alan Scott isn't Hal Jordan, but it's just as fair to point out the obvious:

The Batman we know doesn't use a gun, break necks or kick people off of buildings.

The Superman we know doesn't doesn't dress up a like a miner to crash a wealthy socialite party, he wouldn't drive a car and intentionally crash into another driver just to get himself arrested.

So much has changed in these characters from the GA to today. Yes, a different name/origin is a difference more glaring at first sight, but if you're going to knock Flash Comics #1 and All-American Comics #16 as "not the true/popular Flash and Green Lantern", then you have to knock Detective Comics #27 as well.

The Batman we know wouldn't mock "a fitting end for his kind."

1 hour ago, comicdonna said:

One of my favorite books.    Congratulations on the pickup. 

Thanks! Have you ever owned a copy?

1 hour ago, Chicago Boy said:

  Congrats dude !  Didn't know you were eyeing one! 

Thanks! I've owned in some form or fashion, complete copies/coverless/covers/wraps/pages from many of the top Golden Age books:

Action Comics #1

Superman #1

Batman #1

Captain America Comics #1

Whiz Comics #2 (#1)

All-Star Comics #8

Action Comics #7

Detective Comics #33

Detective Comics #38

All-Star Comics #3

etc.

But I'm not sure anything has quite compared to holding a Marvel Comics #1.

6 hours ago, PopKulture said:

Precisely. And a bit underappreciated at the moment. Congrats on your pick-up.

For as much as this book has picked up steam recently, it's still easily one of the most underrated books in the hobby. The differential in content vs. appreciation is staggering.

Slowly in recent years, we've seen collectors begin to open their eyes as keys of yesteryear continue to become more and more desirable, which makes sense. There was a lot of thought and depth behind why certain books were so strongly sought after in the first place.

2 minutes ago, woowoo said:

you get your sig line fixed

I did. 

Incredible collection you've got.

7 minutes ago, piper said:

If I sold off my entire collection and could only have one book, Marvel Comics No. 1 would be it!

That said, how much are extensively restored copies going for? 

It's tough to tell. Copies don't come up that often. Off the top of my head, I'd guess 30K+ depending on the copy/grade.

Just now, Jaydogrules said:

Agreed.  They both have the benefit of classic covers as well as substantive content (though 38 is technically not a "pre-Robin" ).

-J.

Agreed. Tec #33's cover is on-par with #29 and #31. I'd still pick #31's cover out of the three, but they're all close.