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Kevin Feige did say we'd see the Inhumans show up somewhere before their movie.

X-Force #2?

Yes, since that's Coulson's first 616 appearance, but not his first comic appearance overall. Coulson's first appearance ever in comics is in the non-616 "Iron Man/Incredible Hulk/Nick Fury" one shot in 2009. The timeline of early Agent Coulson appearances seems to go like this: Where's the love for the Walmart Exclusive Iron Man: Movie Special Issue #1? It came out in September/October of 2008 and features Coulson throughout. Here's some pics from the Walmart Exclusive Iron Man: Movie Special Issue #1. Ashcan sized, packed in with Wal-Mart copies of the DVD (released around/on 9/30/2008). The story is essentially a Coulson solo story taking place during the first Iron Man film, with Coulson featured as early as p. 2 and named throughout. Here's a couple of pics including the cover. Is there any precedent where a major character has had their first appearance in a smaller, promotional comic like this and CGC still denotes it as the official, first appearance?

Interesting, do you have any pictures or more info on it? Is it a regular size comic, or a small insert that fit in the DVD case? Yea I would love to see pics on that one as well. The one listed on eBay says it's ash-can sized.

Interesting, do you have any pictures or more info on it? Is it a regular size comic, or a small insert that fit in the DVD case?

It doesn't seem like much demand, although I'm not sure if that's due to Coulson being a boring character or confusion on which book has the true first appearance of him.

Yes, since that's Coulson's first 616 appearance, but not his first comic appearance overall. Coulson's first appearance ever in a regular size comic is in the non-616 "Iron Man/Incredible Hulk/Nick Fury" one shot in 2009. The timeline of early, full size comic Agent Coulson appearances seems to go like this: Iron Man/Incredible Hulk/Nick Fury one shot, Cinematic Universe - February 2009: Page where he first appears: Iron Man 2: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. one shot, Cinematic Universe, first cover appearance: November 2010 Battle Scars #1, first 616 appearance, although not referred to as Agent Coulson until Battle Scars #6 - November 2011

Gonna have to add you to the block list, if someone quotes you with a new point I'll be happy to respond. Too bad, as I have bought books from you before. Captain Marvel #1 remains the book where Carol Danvers becomes Captain Marvel, and its part 1 of a two part story, released out of order, not an origin story. Peace If I'd known how delusional you were, that would have never happened.

FTFY, even worded it more in favor of your view, but you cant cram "origin story" on to CM1, its just not true. So the difference between "first reference" (nice to see you've allowed that much) and "first appearance" would be what, exactly? Please explain. sure, didnt see your post before I am happy to, but you miss-quoted, let me restore that for you. The debate isnt about the release dates. The argument started because I said people were missing the forest for the trees, chasing a date instead of the actual event. CM1 and AS9 are part 1 and part 2 of a two part story. They were released offset (out of order), to help boost part 1's sales, because part 2 was placed in a much more popular book (for the sole purpose of said sales boost). Carol becomes Captain Marvel in Captain Marvel #1 (part 1 of the two part story). Because of the offset release dates, he was attempting to call CM1 an origin story. The pointing being to diminish the fact that that is the book where she becomes Captain Marvel. But, saying it doesnt make it true. It is not an origin story, its part 1 of a two part story released out of order. If people want to buy a release date (part 2, released out of order), they can (trees). I am saying they are missing the forest (part 1, where she becomes Captain Marvel). In a way, its very validating that the debate has turned to trying to diminish the fact that Carol becomes Captain Marvel in Captain Marvel, by attempting to label it an origin story. At least that means what actually matters is the focus now, instead of nonsense, name calling, and straw-men. Since you don't follow logic and are quite delusional as some have mentioned, I'll keep posting this as a response: Marvel Superheroes #13 - First appearance of Carol Danvers Ms. Marvel #1 - Carol Danvers becomes Ms. Marvel Avenging Spider-Man #9 - First appearance of Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel Captain Marvel #1 (2012) - Origin of how Carol Danvers becomes Captain Marvel Again, no amount of wailing and flailing can change those facts.

often during Marvel crossover events, (and there are other examples), linked stories come up for sale out of sequence. The 7 day offset in release, cant break the books, or force one to become an origin story. ----- if you want to trash the thread, go for it, if you have anything else to say that needs correcting, let me know. Since you don't follow logic and are quite delusional as some have mentioned, I'll keep posting this as a response: Marvel Superheroes #13 - First appearance of Carol Danvers Ms. Marvel #1 - Carol Danvers becomes Ms. Marvel Avenging Spider-Man #9 - First appearance of Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel Captain Marvel #1 (2012) - Origin of how Carol Danvers becomes Captain Marvel Again, no amount of wailing and flailing can change those facts.

spamming cant make CM1 an origin story, Since you don't follow logic and are quite delusional as some have mentioned, I'll keep posting this as a response: Marvel Superheroes #13 - First appearance of Carol Danvers Ms. Marvel #1 - Carol Danvers becomes Ms. Marvel Avenging Spider-Man #9 - First appearance of Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel Captain Marvel #1 (2012) - Origin of how Carol Danvers becomes Captain Marvel Again, no amount of wailing and flailing can change those facts.

As much as you'd like that to be true, unfortunately its not. Marvel Superheroes #13 - First appearance of Carol Danvers Ms. Marvel #1 - Carol Danvers becomes Ms. Marvel Avenging Spider-Man #9 - First reference to Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel (follows directly from CM1, released 7 days earlier) Captain Marvel #1 (2012) - Carol Danvers becomes Captain Marvel Again, no amount of wailing and flailing can change those facts. FTFY Marvel Superheroes #13 - First appearance of Carol Danvers Ms. Marvel #1 - Carol Danvers becomes Ms. Marvel Avenging Spider-Man #9 - First appearance of Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel Captain Marvel #1 (2012) - Origin of how Carol Danvers becomes Captain Marvel Again, no amount of wailing and flailing can change those facts.

As much as you'd like that to be true, unfortunately its not. Marvel Superheroes #13 - First appearance of Carol Danvers Ms. Marvel #1 - Carol Danvers becomes Ms. Marvel Avenging Spider-Man #9 - First appearance of Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel Captain Marvel #1 (2012) - Origin of how Carol Danvers becomes Captain Marvel Again, no amount of wailing and flailing can change those facts.

fixed.

It's already been established that CHRONOLOGICALLY Captain Marvel #1 takes place before Avenging #9 story-wise, but Avenging #9 still hit the newstands a week earlier, and she is clearly Captain Marvel in that issue. Why do you bother arguing with him? It's useless. He completely believes his own delusions. +1 and thank you, I gave up a long long time ago. (thumbs u I'm done, I'll go debate a brick wall next time.

Except that part is completely false.

It's already been established that CHRONOLOGICALLY Captain Marvel #1 takes place before Avenging #9 story-wise, but Avenging #9 still hit the newstands a week earlier, and she is clearly Captain Marvel in that issue.

Looks like the market overwhelmingly agrees, Avenging #9 is outselling Captain Marvel #1 by a decent margin: Sold Avenging #9 auctions: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=avenging+spider-man+%239&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc Sold Captain Marvel #1 auctions: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=captain+marvel+%231+2012&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc

The one where she becomes Captain Marvel. But she's already Captain Marvel in Avenging #9, says so right on the first page.

What's the first comic you could buy on the newstand/comic shop that featured Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel? I'll take my answer off the air.

And again here's the first page of Avenging Spider-Man #9. Read the text in red:

That would be in Captain Marvel #1, last page, already posted here prior to the shilling. The stuff people try to push on these boards is amusing. I genuinely am amazed how people can get so busy focusing on the trees that they forget they are in a forest. Go back and read the thread closer, Avenging Spider-Man #9 came out a week earlier than Captain Marvel #1. I don't know what forest you're looking at.

More than the number of people who actually care about the character versus adding another "hot, must have" book to their collection! Turned in 6 and 1 variant to CGC at Wizard World Ohio this weekend. I'm curious as to whether they are going to note on the label that it's the first Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel. Let us know what they say.