Jaydogrules

"GIMME GIMME GIMME". Is this what RMA meant ? If so, then we probably deserve a crash. Anyone who suddenly wants this book simply because the concept of a potential movie was announced and pays "$700+" will probably lose money, as hundreds and hundreds (thousands?) of copies are now being boxed and readied for CGC as I type this. Although I do still find RMA's comments hypocritical, considering he will be an active particpant in the "madness". I don't think anybody who pays $700 for this book would ever (or have any right) to go back to the dealer who sold them the book six months later and blame them for their nonsensical impulse buy. And I don't think that is anything RMA (or any other dealer) worries about. It really is a "GIMME GIMME GIMME" on both sides then, isn't it RMA. By the way, the books to own are (still) X-men 1, Hulk 181, NM 87 and 98. Those no-name D-lister mutants in MGN 4 will not be what carry any movie (assuming the movie even happens). The general public has gone to see every x-men movie thus far essentially for wolverine. The comic fan boys want to see Deadpool and Cable now. The real X-men would undoubtedly appear in any "New Mutants" movie as well. And Oops, what if the potential title literally means what it says and FOX actually creates "new mutants" that never appeared in any comic. Quite the possibility, since, lets face it, the "new mutants" that appeared in the comics really are quite lame. -J.

Jay, do you mind me asking how old you are? I've watched three market bubbles inflate and pop up close in my lifetime. The 90s comic market, the dot com bubble, and the housing bubble. Those aren't the only bubbles that have occurred in that time, they are just the ones that I was paying close attention to. The whole world is actually totally wrong fairly frequently. Do you really think these kind of prices are sustainable? I try not to dispense personal information on the boards. I don't know about "comic prices" in general being sustainable. Some might be, some may not be. I think the newer/more common the comic, the more vulnerable it likely is. That's not what my gripe with RMA was about though. What I do not believe is sustainable at all is this "day trader" mentality with comics and the way people rush to buy a book in a herd mentality based solely on alternative media speculation, and cause prices on books like NM 1 and MGN 4 to double, triple, etc overnight, based on nothing more than a rumour and a title. If there's a "crash" that's where it is going to be IMO and I would imagine that would be the last thing the dealers who post in this thread would be rooting for or even wanting to talk about. Doing so may very well create a self fulfilling prophecy. -J.

Yeah, I'm calling wildly_fanciful_statement on that -J.

As usual, instead of saying "oh, I guess I misunderstood you. Sorry about that." you do as so many here do, and double down on the arrogant posturing, because you cannot ever admit you might be wrong about anything. You are the very thing you complain about me. No, Jay, the whole world isn't wrong, and you are very presumptuous to imagine you speak for the whole world. Yes, that's right. Contempt for a market that is mired in madness, that thinks there's no end in sight, that everything will always go up up UP!!, and there has never been a crash. Contempt, because such thinking destroys lives when the inevitable happens. You still don't understand: it's not about SELLING...it's about BUYING. You got all of that from: "Same ol' madness. I've got probably 20 raw 9.8s that I could really use in slabs right about now." Really....? I mean, really?? Wow. Yes, because saying "I've got probably 20 raw 9.8s" is boasting, right...? Nope. Because you don't understand it doesn't make it so. I will tell people...all day long...to not pay ridiculous sums of money for things just because everyone else is paying ridiculous sums of money for them. I will not, however, say "...and therefore, I cannot sell this to you for the current market price, but must insist you pay a lower price, because: principle." There is no inconsistency here, Jay. In fact...TELLING people that the item they are currently paying $50 for probably isn't worth $5 is far, far more than most would, and more than the buyer deserves. If the buyer wants to spend that money, I'm not going to turn him away. If I can convince the buyer that it's not worth the money....AGAINST MY OWN INTERESTS....then I am doing a good thing. If they decide, of their own accord, that it IS...then that's THEIR decision. That doesn't mean it's not still madness....but that's the way the market works, Jay. Yup. Because anything is only worth what someone will pay for it. True...so why do you engage in it? (See above.) That is correct. If the buyer says GIMME GIMME GIMME with FULL knowledge of what they are doing....I'm not going to turn them away. That's how it works CORRECTLY, Jay. Okay I got it. (thumbs u -J.

Same ol' madness. I've got probably 20 raw 9.8s that I could really use in slabs right about now. I find it interesting (ironic) that, on the one hand you evidently believe the fact that a couple of people have maximized their profits on a famous, rare variant reflects a "GIMME GIMME GIMME" mentality, You continue to repeat your error, because you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what I have said. Please - try to understand what it is I have actually said, so that you stop repeating things about me that aren't true. Let me be as plain as I can be: the issue has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone "maximizing their profits." I don't mean to demean you, and I hate to belabor the point, but it HAS to get through to you: the issue has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone "maximizing their profits." Once more, with feeling: the issue has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone "maximizing their profits." If you can sell the book for $10 quintillion dollars, MORE POWER TO YOU. The issue isn't "maximized profits." What IS the issue? That the market keeps SPENDING like this. If there's someone willing to pay you $10 quintillion dollars, GREAT! By all means, that's wonderful, and you'll be fabulously wealthy. The issue is that there is someone willing to pay $10 quintillion dollars. THAT is the issue. That there are people lining up to pay these prices is the issue. And worse, the reasons WHY people are lining up ("I can flip this for even MORE money!" It's not sustainable. I really do hope...and honestly, there is no malice on my part...that you have gotten this "RMA thinks people are being GREEDY!" notion out of your head. "Slickly cheerleading"? You get "slickly cheerleading" from "Same ol' madness. I've got probably 20 raw 9.8s that I could really use in slabs right about now." Wow. Spare your contempt, jay, for things that actually deserve it. Do not make such judgments from a position of error. Right. I got you. The whole world is wrong and only you are right. So here is the actual poop that you dropped in another thread: "$900, $5000, $1,000,000, none of that matters. It's all built on a foundation of nothingness. The book isn't worth that kind of money, and the only reason it sells for that kind of money is because GIMME GIMME GIMME!!! And when the bottom falls out, then what? If YOU bought it for $900 and sold it for $5,000, YAY! You won the lottery of comics! Congrats! Now what about all the OTHER "$900 comics" that aren't worth $300 today? Oh, right, we don't talk about those...." Geeeez. Talk about "contempt". And here you are now in this thread, the obvious glee practically dripping from your keyboard as you cross post (in other threads) about NM 1 and MGN 4, boasting about how many dozens of 9.8 copies you have that you are undoubtedly preparing to excrete onto the market to immediately capitalize on this "maybe movie announcement". Wouldn't this sort of conduct be far more potentially hazardous to the hobby than the half dozen sales or so of a rare variant? I suppose you somehow think that box of NM 1 and MGN 4 you have will be "worth" whatever you think you can ultimately get for them. I don't begrudge you trying to make a buck, but blatant hypocrisy is just not cool. "GIMME GIMME GIMME" indeed. -J.

Good lord. Early bird gets the worm I suppose. Looks like rfoiii got the closest with his range. Hopefully that dealer reports to GPA. -J.

Something to consider. I know a lot of legitimate buyers won't even bid in an auction where it looks like that is going on. -J.

I take exception to every word that comes out of your keyboard. BTW, still waiting to see one single, substantive post out of you. Surely the peanut gallery must get lonely sometime. -J.

Damn. Seeing the 2015 numbers with every other year for the last 13 years like that really is quite telling, not to mentions somewhat jarring. I could only imagine what Ms. Marvel 1 would look like. -J.

Just curious, do you have any Star Wars #1's? He wouldn't have any of that over-hyped, mass prodouced, atrificially inflated drek. Actually, I just can't afford one. -J.

And here I was expecting someone in here to take exception with the "common, mass produced, copper age schlock" part. -J.

Same ol' madness. I've got probably 20 raw 9.8s that I could really use in slabs right about now. I find it interesting (ironic) that, on the one hand you evidently believe the fact that a couple of people have maximized their profits on a famous, rare variant reflects a "GIMME GIMME GIMME" mentality, and is foretelling the end of days for the hobby in general, because you disagree with what said famous, rare variant sells for. And yet here you are in this thread, slickly cheerleading common, mass produced, copper age schlock (NM 1, MGN 4) that you conveniently have stacks of in a back room somewhere, and that nobody gave a rat's azz about until the announcement of a (possible) movie being made in the next ten years featuring (possibly nothing more than) the title "New Mutants". Interesting to be sure. -J. I don't see the post as "cheerleading." Anyway, if one is convinced the hobby is crashing, it makes sense that one might wish to cash out, no? Operative word being "slickly", nor am I referring to just the one post. (thumbs u -J.

Same ol' madness. I've got probably 20 raw 9.8s that I could really use in slabs right about now. I find it interesting (ironic) that, on the one hand you evidently believe the fact that a couple of people have maximized their profits on a famous, rare variant reflects a "GIMME GIMME GIMME" mentality, and is foretelling the end of days for the hobby in general, because you disagree with what said famous, rare variant sells for. And yet here you are in this thread, slickly cheerleading common, mass produced, copper age schlock (NM 1, MGN 4) that you conveniently have stacks of in a back room somewhere, and that nobody gave a rat's azz about until the announcement of a (possible) movie being made in the next ten years featuring (possibly nothing more than) the title "New Mutants". Interesting to be sure. -J.

Top bidder has 5 bid retractions in the last 30 days. Second place bidder has 0 feedback and 100% bidding activity with seller. Third place bidder has 3 bid retractions in 30 days. This particular book has been heavily shilled since its manufactured movie hype price spike, and this auction appears no different. -J.

Yes wtf is up with that. It seems like that would have been an easy one to nail. -J.

He's right it is being shilled. The 0 feedback bidder with 100% bidding activity with the seller is a fairly huge red flag. -J.

Great news. Really looking forward to this now. -J.

Holy cr@p congratulations snikt. You DEFINITLEY made the right choice. -J.

-J.

Blue label bats 1 come up for sale all the time. That cap 1 has a looong way to go. (thumbs u -J.

+1 -J.

The last 4.5 that sold had "Lt/ow" on the the label and that is the current GPA high at $4,500 (another 4.5 with "cr/ow" on the label sold for $3500 just a few weeks before that). Yet a 4.0 sold for about $4,300. Right now I probably wouldn't let a 4.5 go for less than around $5k. There seems to be some price compression between 4.0-5.0, and as always, the "pq" on the label seems to mean little. -J.

I'm going to have to break down and pick one up. It will be my third "Spider-Gwen" book. -J. Starting to come to the dark side. Sidious, Mal, Vader, J... -J.

I don't like her face in it. Looks like she's got Green Goblin face. Guardians Of Knowhere #1 Cover D Variant Rob Guillory Gwenom Cover (Secret Wars Warzones Tie-In) Manufacturer/Publisher: Marvel (Release Date: 6/17/2015) Darn. Not a fan at all. Pass. They should have went white Anti-Venom. Damn is that really the final artwork they're going with ? Don't think I like it either..... -J.

I'm going to have to break down and pick one up. It will be my third "Spider-Gwen" book. -J.