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Actually that's not true. I've sold books for multiples of GPA in their consignment section and I have never used a Comiclink auction. Every time I've sold a book it was a book with NO relative sales data on GPA (ie. nothing in that particular grade or the data was very old) or elsewhere and the sale price always exceeded my expectations. Both sets of data are just as valuable. One is just easier to work with. (thumbs u

Bob, you're a different animal. Some people just don't know what a book is worth. For the average person who wants to collect big books it's invaluable. Otherwise, how does a person know he's paying or getting near "FMV" value for a book? For those of us who live in our comics, it's a little less valuable but still much appreciated and a welcome crutch. R.

George has software that records data. Thing is that Ebay data is easier to corroborate. You can see low feedback bidders, shady sales etc and this is all noted in the GPA sales data. With dealers they are supposed to provide transaction info, not just a price...and Josh likely wants to keep his client base private. George probably does not want to record unsubstantiated sales data. The eBay data is mo more reliable. One has to assume that all of the transaction follow through to completion. Actually, any GPA sales that are questionable are noted as such on GPA. (thumbs u I can read GPA, Roy. Not every sale that falls through on eBay ends back up for sale on eBay. I have seen items that supposedly sold on eBay turn up on consignment sites. Furthermore, before you call it a flip, there was little or no profit margin involved. All I'm saying is that one is no more unsubstantiated over the other. It's all taken at face value. I suppose there is a little more authenticity in an Ebay buyer with 200 feedback than just a number on a website. George will also correct any data that might seem incorrect...but the guy is human and can't catch everything. I've helped him correct a few bad sales myslef. I'm sure he'll chime in any time now and straighten everything out...he's probably hitting the sack any second now. R. Hey Roy, I had a thought. To carry on with a discussion that we had a while ago... What is to prevent someone from shilling up their auction on eBay with multiple user ids, having one of those multiple ids win the book (thereby setting a GPA recorded sale) and then listing the book on one of the consignment sites, e.g. ComicLink? I guess then it wouldn't be too far fetched for that same person to have more than one account on ComicLink and bid their own listing up to where the next bid would be a bid that's accepted. Of course when the legitimate buyer checks GPA they will find the sale that has been recorded from eBay. Never the wiser... BTW... All you conspiracy theorists can put away your magnifying glasses. This is a conversation with Roy and not some backhanded way of accusing Roy with anything. Doc, as with anything in this world we look for the best info. Nothing is perfect. I think that the info is *more correct* when intersected with other bits of info such as bidder and seller feedback, locations etc. There is no guarantee that any auction is not shill bid but there is less chance of it when contact info is out in the open as apposed to zero feedback or private bidders, right? I mean anyone can privately shill bid a pedigree sale, a heritage auction or a comiclink listing (not accusing anyone, just saying the potential is there). I remember seeing a book listed for ever on comiclink with a bid on it. I bid it up to the next increment and BOOM 1 hour later the seller accepted my bid...like he was waiting for bid. I didn't mind as I got a good book at a good price but it did make me think about it twice....it was almost too automatic....too co-incidental. I'm sure that it happens from time to time. A bud shills a book for another bud. In any case I'm surprised George has not chimed in but I still think GPA is a terrific tool that is very professional and cannot recommend it enough for the collector that buys and sells more tha $50 or $100 comics in a month. R.

George has software that records data. Thing is that Ebay data is easier to corroborate. You can see low feedback bidders, shady sales etc and this is all noted in the GPA sales data. With dealers they are supposed to provide transaction info, not just a price...and Josh likely wants to keep his client base private. George probably does not want to record unsubstantiated sales data. The eBay data is mo more reliable. One has to assume that all of the transaction follow through to completion. Actually, any GPA sales that are questionable are noted as such on GPA. (thumbs u I can read GPA, Roy. Not every sale that falls through on eBay ends back up for sale on eBay. I have seen items that supposedly sold on eBay turn up on consignment sites. Furthermore, before you call it a flip, there was little or no profit margin involved. All I'm saying is that one is no more unsubstantiated over the other. It's all taken at face value. I suppose there is a little more authenticity in an Ebay buyer with 200 feedback than just a number on a website. George will also correct any data that might seem incorrect...but the guy is human and can't catch everything. I've helped him correct a few bad sales myslef. I'm sure he'll chime in any time now and straighten everything out...he's probably hitting the sack any second now. R.

What are you people talking about? There is no personal information being shared, it's just a matter of supplying the needed sales data, price and CGC cert # to GPA. That's it. Josh apparently wanted to submit only "record-breaking" data to GPA, which is useless, since a true market report requires ALL dales data. I believe (though I could be wrong) that George needs buyer info as well.

George has software that records data. Thing is that Ebay data is easier to corroborate. You can see low feedback bidders, shady sales etc and this is all noted in the GPA sales data. With dealers they are supposed to provide transaction info, not just a price...and Josh likely wants to keep his client base private. George probably does not want to record unsubstantiated sales data. The eBay data is mo more reliable. One has to assume that all of the transaction follow through to completion. Actually, any GPA sales that are questionable are noted as such on GPA. (thumbs u

For the record, I am not implying that anything shady is going on. That is an arguement all in and of itslf. I do know for a fact that if I had an established client list that provided me with $1,000,000's in business every year I certainly would have reservations about sharing it with another party.

George has software that records data. Thing is that Ebay data is easier to corroborate. You can see low feedback bidders, shady sales etc and this is all noted in the GPA sales data. With dealers they are supposed to provide transaction info, not just a price...and Josh likely wants to keep his client base private. George probably does not want to record unsubstantiated sales data.

Darn nice looking giant! Ever notice how on virtually every hand that Baker drew, the two middle fingers are together and the other two fingers are spread out. Ken Frank Miller was famous for that. I loved that he did that...it makes the character seem more elegant...more fluid. An artist that draws hands well needs to be taken with serious appreciation...that is a tough part of the body to master. R.

No. I suggest you pour a strong one and play through the pain. They don't make it strong enough in this country.

If anyone wants to sift through my messy thread I have relisted some GA books at lower prices and also a new Phantom Lady #21 in about 5.0 grade with terrific eye appeal! Thanks for looking. LINK

OK, so I've list a bit of everything...high grade BA, SA and a few GA books including a Matt Baker Phantom Lady. R.

Gang, this is not directed at anyone but is there any way to reduce the amount of off topic posts in the selling forum? Seriously..Happy Birthday threads, Kudos threads....if you make a mistake just delete your posts. There's enough going on in here without all the unnecessary distractions.

I'm going to be posting a bunch of books in a new thread. Some old ones discounted to sell, and many new ones. Likely tonite. R.

I just dropped some GA into the BA/SA thread including an Adventure Comics #41 (second Sandman) and Batman #11 (classic Joker/cards cover).

Hey gang. I've relisted my Adventure Comics #41, Li'l Abner #66 (file copy) and am also going to add some new books when I get a chance to dig them up...I am listing a Batman #11 CGC 3.0 ow/w but can't provide a pic till later. Here is a link...scroll down the page or scroll back if you are looking for some SA stuff. Thanks!

can''t wait to see that one in 7 weeks. You got it! i have nothing on my mind, but it's sinful that the timely thread could lay fallow for 5 damn days, hence the bump. I prefer to think of it as stately, rather than sinful.

Yup. I love 29 Palms. Great stuff!

I've played Long Road To Ruin about a 10 times tonite. Man I love that song! I just learned to play it on the guitar too. Great tune!

Not sure if I want to keep her after that statement.

You know Richard...she aspires to be everything that she can be...and she will never be an 8.0, but that won't stop her from being mine.I'm just sorry that nobody will ever have a chance at her again.R

Even if I make fun of you?

For the sake of posterity the date stamp on my AW #11 says Jan 5 1944. (thumbs u

I know I posted this before...but I want to thank Socratic Wonder for getting this dream book into my hands safely. It's a 4.5 sitting in a 4.0 holder and this book has a LOT of history behind it...among board members, among CGC and most importantly it's an OO book that can be traced back to the original owner thanks to Marnin. One of my favorite Marvel Mystery books and I now own all of my favorite MMC covers in the run. The rest is just gravy. Thanks R!