H0RR0RSH0W Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I could have sworn there were a couple of issues where Larry Hama didn't write the story. Where's silent master? He would know this! In the meantime, I'm collecting all the Silent Issues. Here's the two I got signed with this bunch. And here's the latest and most unknown of the silent issues! (I think). I got two done, so if anyone wants to talk trade or sale PM me. Both 9.8 grade. Rings a bell. Double checking Wiki it says there were a couple of issues Hama did not write but exactly which is not stated. I was only able to find out that Herb Trimpe, Eric Fein and Steve Grant were writers also. Although I would be quite surprised to find Larry Hama did not ultimately approve of the issues scripts himself. I have that cover of Origins but I like the B variant a little better. I think issue # 85 of the original series was a silent issue as well. I really like the story in that with Zartan and the red ninjas vs. Storm Shadow. Tommy is a really great character in that he was so conflicted pertaining to his uncles murder. He had a really great character development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OV Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I agree, I like the variant of Origins 19 more as well. That's going to be a tough issue to find in 9.8 grade! Here are the other silent issues I know about that I need to get signed. Snake Eyes & Storm Shadow #21 regular and variant covers. GI Joe 85 (Marvel) GI Joe 21 covers A and B (Image) Anyone know of any others? Here's the other two I have that are signed. [/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney414 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Rings a bell. Double checking Wiki it says there were a couple of issues Hama did not write but exactly which is not stated. I was only able to find out that Herb Trimpe, Eric Fein and Steve Grant were writers also. Although I would be quite surprised to find Larry Hama did not ultimately approve of the issues scripts himself. He didn't write issues 9 and 10. Idk if he had creative input into those. Be an interesting question for him. Especially since there is some Snake-Eyes origin stuff in those issues when he's hooked up to the brain wave scanner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Master Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Rings a bell. Double checking Wiki it says there were a couple of issues Hama did not write but exactly which is not stated. I was only able to find out that Herb Trimpe, Eric Fein and Steve Grant were writers also. Although I would be quite surprised to find Larry Hama did not ultimately approve of the issues scripts himself. He didn't write issues 9 and 10. Idk if he had creative input into those. Be an interesting question for him. Especially since there is some Snake-Eyes origin stuff in those issues when he's hooked up to the brain wave scanner. Yeap - Steven Grant wrote 9, 10, & 20 Herb Trimpe wrote 119 143 was scriped by more than one person?? Peter Quinones wrote 154 and 21, 85, and Yearbook #2 wasn't "written" by anyone I always wondered why Hama didn't do these? Not that he didn't deserve a vacation!!! Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Master Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 A mislabeled 2nd print 21 CGC 9.8 SS is about to make some good money on E-Bay! http://www.ebay.com/itm/281565474569?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H0RR0RSH0W Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) All of the 9.8's posted here leave me speechless. It is a privilege to see such fine books.Thanks for sharing! Are there still GI Joe cover sketch contests? Edited January 23, 2015 by H0RR0RSH0W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Master Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I picked up some custom CGC Joe frames! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikingreed Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Oh, nice! Those look great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney414 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Wow! Those frames are really cool and unique. Perfect choice of books too, they look great!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) Anybody know what the print run was for G.I. JOE #1 Marvel? Edited February 6, 2015 by ComicConnoisseur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H0RR0RSH0W Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Anybody know what the print run was for G.I. JOE #1 Marvel? Since noone else has replied I would like to take a somewhat, but not totally wild guess and say around 150,000. (hoping that I don't have the decimal point in the wrong place) I have actually read about this somewhere although it was before I signed up for the message boards and I cannot for the life of me remember right now exactly where it was . Although I am quite sure it was not here. I would like to try to come up with a better answer and will give you one if noone else can do better. The only real fact that I do recall is that it was rare because of it being printed on Baxter paper, and more obviously it being a first issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Anybody know what the print run was for G.I. JOE #1 Marvel? Since noone else has replied I would like to take a somewhat, but not totally wild guess and say around 150,000. (hoping that I don't have the decimal point in the wrong place) I have actually read about this somewhere although it was before I signed up for the message boards and I cannot for the life of me remember right now exactly where it was . Although I am quite sure it was not here. I would like to try to come up with a better answer and will give you one if noone else can do better. The only real fact that I do recall is that it was rare because of it being printed on Baxter paper, and more obviously it being a first issue. I asked because they always say issue 2 is rare. So if #1 is at 150,000,then #2 must be a lot lower than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H0RR0RSH0W Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I've heard that starting with issue #2 they started increasing production so I would be surprised, but again I have no concrete sources to back me up and as of yet none else to contribute to our conversation. However in the 80's issue #2 was indeed a hot book. Why it has sunk back in the ranks now I cannot offer conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comiconxion Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I was going to guess between 150,000 and 300,000. Remember, there was a full ad campaign on TV to push the book so I assume Marvel may have printed more than a typical #1 at the time. I've also seen Direct Edition copies of #1 with extra large staples - wondering if this is because they went back to press and printed up additional copies of the book. The Parkes Run Treasury edition of #1 was printed around the same time as the original issue as well, but I'd imaging the print run on that was relatively small (10-20k?) The rumor was that the print run for #2 was less because they had not yet been able to gauge the sales for issue #1 before finalizing the print run number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H0RR0RSH0W Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I searched high and low and I cannot remember where I read the information in my last posts. A Larry Hama or Marvel interview somewhere perhaps. Sorry that's the best I can do. Since you brought up the subject of rare Joe issues ComicConnisseur it would be worth mentioning that beyond the more commonly known higher value issues of #1, #21,& #155 also sought after issues are #2, #26,#27,#93 as well as certain printings of #63. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comiconxion Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) Another question I've had is why Marvel decided to launch G.I. Joe #1 on a special Baxter paper with no ads while future issues were regular format. At $1.50, it was 2.5x the cost of a normal comic at the time and I remember having to think twice before investing in a copy. I wonder how the more expensive format impacted the print run size and sales? Edited February 7, 2015 by comiconxion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H0RR0RSH0W Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Another question I've had is why Marvel decided to launch G.I. Joe #1 on a special Baxter paper with no ads while future issues were regular format. At $1.50, it was 2.5x the cost of a normal comic at the time and I remember having to think twice before investing in a copy. I wonder how the more expensive format impacted the print run size and sales? That's anyones guess but the executives at Marvel in the 80's. I guess more money = nicer product. Nicer product = higher asking price. It all worked out in the end though. Since the idea started out as " Fury Force" maybe it was intended to be a grand re release of S.H.I.E.L.D. so they figured it could have a premium asking price. I think they knew they had a winner on their hands though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H0RR0RSH0W Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 With the last few posts here pertaining to Marvel and their publishing tendencies in the 80's I myself cannot help but wonder about what they were thinking towards the abrupt end of the original G.I.Joe series. It is to my understanding that Marvel filed chapter 11 in the late 90's and it is the consensus among collectors that Marvel created what is referred to as the implosion of the comic industry. Could they help but wonder what if they had let the series continue? Did whoever made that decision realize that it was the type of thinking that helped Marvel commit suicide? I guess all good things must come to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whisp Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Picked up a third printing of #21 today. I would post a pic but server saying it is having issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H0RR0RSH0W Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Picked up a third printing of #21 today. I would post a pic but server saying it is having issues. What grade is it? I won the Snake-Eyes declassified series after having it recommended to me here in the 'Joe forum. Although initially the way it was described it sounded like a reprint it looks like a separate interesting story arc with new material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
