comicwiz Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Can you answer my question as to why a bunch of Whitmans aren't even mentioned in Overstreet? Do you have a list of issues that you are referring to that aren't listed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Can you answer my question as to why a bunch of Whitmans aren't even mentioned in Overstreet? Do you have a list of issues that you are referring to that aren't listed? I think it's a rather long list, but here are a few of them: 1) Addams Family #1 (1974) 2) Aristokittens #5 (1974) 3) Beagle Boys #19 (1974), #35 (1977), #45 (1978) 4) Beep Beep The Road Runner #42 (1974), #83 (1979), #84 (1979), #85 (1979) (Overstreet says Whitman #89 on) 5) Boris Karloff Tales of Mystery #70 (1976) 6) Brothers of the Spear #12 (1974) (Overstreet only says Whitman #18) 7) Bugs Bunny #159 (1974), #168 (1975), #211 (1979), #213 (1979), #214 (1979) (Overstreet says Whitman #219 on) These are just a few of the examples I've found where the Whitman comics aren't specifically mentioned in Overstreet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicwiz Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Can you answer my question as to why a bunch of Whitmans aren't even mentioned in Overstreet? Do you have a list of issues that you are referring to that aren't listed? I think it's a rather long list, but here are a few of them: 1) Addams Family #1 (1974) 2) Aristokittens #5 (1974) 3) Beagle Boys #19 (1974), #35 (1977), #45 (1978) 4) Beep Beep The Road Runner #42 (1974), #83 (1979), #84 (1979), #85 (1979) (Overstreet says Whitman #89 on) 5) Boris Karloff Tales of Mystery #70 (1976) 6) Brothers of the Spear #12 (1974) (Overstreet only says Whitman #18) 7) Bugs Bunny #159 (1974), #168 (1975), #211 (1979), #213 (1979), #214 (1979) (Overstreet says Whitman #219 on) These are just a few of the examples I've found where the Whitman comics aren't specifically mentioned in Overstreet. The only thing I was able to observe about the list above is that the following titles did not have Whitman mentioned as the publisher in bold (i.e. Gold Key/Whitman): Addams Family Aristokittens Boris Karloff The others had the appropriate mention of Whitman as a publisher but it appears as though they didn't have the correct sequence of issues when Whitman begain printing them (i.e. Gold Key/Whitman #219 on:). Otherwise, those issues that you listed are in the Overstreet - I just think OSPG may have printed errors on the sequencing, and have updated with notes for other scarcer/error Whitmans using Dougs and Jon's research. Is this what you were referring to? If yes, then I can't explain why OSPG hasn't made corrections to reflect actual Whitman issue numbers and their sequences but then again, it isn't unheard of to find errors (un/intentional) in the OSPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicwiz Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Beep Beep Roadrunner #93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicwiz Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Tweety & Sylvester #106 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Can you answer my question as to why a bunch of Whitmans aren't even mentioned in Overstreet? Do you have a list of issues that you are referring to that aren't listed? I think it's a rather long list, but here are a few of them: 1) Addams Family #1 (1974) 2) Aristokittens #5 (1974) 3) Beagle Boys #19 (1974), #35 (1977), #45 (1978) 4) Beep Beep The Road Runner #42 (1974), #83 (1979), #84 (1979), #85 (1979) (Overstreet says Whitman #89 on) 5) Boris Karloff Tales of Mystery #70 (1976) 6) Brothers of the Spear #12 (1974) (Overstreet only says Whitman #18) 7) Bugs Bunny #159 (1974), #168 (1975), #211 (1979), #213 (1979), #214 (1979) (Overstreet says Whitman #219 on) These are just a few of the examples I've found where the Whitman comics aren't specifically mentioned in Overstreet. The only thing I was able to observe about the list above is that the following titles did not have Whitman mentioned as the publisher in bold (i.e. Gold Key/Whitman): Addams Family Aristokittens Boris Karloff The others had the appropriate mention of Whitman as a publisher but it appears as though they didn't have the correct sequence of issues when Whitman begain printing them (i.e. Gold Key/Whitman #219 on:). Otherwise, those issues that you listed are in the Overstreet - I just think OSPG may have printed errors on the sequencing, and have updated with notes for other scarcer/error Whitmans using Dougs and Jon's research. Is this what you were referring to? If yes, then I can't explain why OSPG hasn't made corrections to reflect actual Whitman issue numbers and their sequences but then again, it isn't unheard of to find errors (un/intentional) in the OSPG. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. In the case of DC Whitman variants, Overstreet always/almost always seems to mention them in the guide. And as you pointed out, they do mention Whitman on many of the original Gold Key titles but their starting points don't seem to be correct. Maybe I should finish the list and forward it to Gemstone and see if anything comes out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicwiz Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Can you answer my question as to why a bunch of Whitmans aren't even mentioned in Overstreet? Do you have a list of issues that you are referring to that aren't listed? I think it's a rather long list, but here are a few of them: 1) Addams Family #1 (1974) 2) Aristokittens #5 (1974) 3) Beagle Boys #19 (1974), #35 (1977), #45 (1978) 4) Beep Beep The Road Runner #42 (1974), #83 (1979), #84 (1979), #85 (1979) (Overstreet says Whitman #89 on) 5) Boris Karloff Tales of Mystery #70 (1976) 6) Brothers of the Spear #12 (1974) (Overstreet only says Whitman #18) 7) Bugs Bunny #159 (1974), #168 (1975), #211 (1979), #213 (1979), #214 (1979) (Overstreet says Whitman #219 on) These are just a few of the examples I've found where the Whitman comics aren't specifically mentioned in Overstreet. The only thing I was able to observe about the list above is that the following titles did not have Whitman mentioned as the publisher in bold (i.e. Gold Key/Whitman): Addams Family Aristokittens Boris Karloff The others had the appropriate mention of Whitman as a publisher but it appears as though they didn't have the correct sequence of issues when Whitman begain printing them (i.e. Gold Key/Whitman #219 on:). Otherwise, those issues that you listed are in the Overstreet - I just think OSPG may have printed errors on the sequencing, and have updated with notes for other scarcer/error Whitmans using Dougs and Jon's research. Is this what you were referring to? If yes, then I can't explain why OSPG hasn't made corrections to reflect actual Whitman issue numbers and their sequences but then again, it isn't unheard of to find errors (un/intentional) in the OSPG. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. In the case of DC Whitman variants, Overstreet always/almost always seems to mention them in the guide. And as you pointed out, they do mention Whitman on many of the original Gold Key titles but their starting points don't seem to be correct. Maybe I should finish the list and forward it to Gemstone and see if anything comes out of it. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldsbestcomics Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I have also enjoyed tracking down a bunch of the uncommon Whitman "no price" variants to some of the cartoon books when Gold Key was the primary publisher. High grade copies are impossible, I think my best is F/VF, but I love it when I find one. I think I have 80 or so different issues now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.COMICBOOK Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I'll start things off by posting an Uncle Scrooge 180 - listed in the top 42 rarest Whitman (estimates place 51-75 copies in the marketplace) Yup, I've got this one jotted down as the 37th rarest Whitman. Here's the list that comes from Doug Sulipa, in order of rarity (#1 being the toughest to find): 1. Woody Woodpecker #191 2. Bugs Bunny #221 3. Popeye #158 4. Beep Beep the Roadrunner #92 5. Looney Tunes #35 6. Tom and Jerry #332 7. Super Goof #61 8. Daffy Duck #130 9. Little Lulu #260 10. Super Good #62 11. Huey, Dewey, and Louie #66 12. Tom and Jerry #331 13. Yosemite Sam #68 14. Black Hole (Beyond The) #4 15. Winnie The Pooh #20 16. Tweety and Sylvester #105 17. Mickey Mouse #208 18. Beep Beep the Roadrunner #93 19. Winnie The Pooh #22 20. Battle of the Planets #7 21. Beep Beep the Roadrunner #91 22. Chip n' Dale #69 23. Daffy Duck #131 24. Daisy and Donald #47 25. Donald Duck #222 26. Huey, Dewey, and Louie #65 27. Little Lulu #261 28. Looney Tunes #34 29. Mickey Mouse #209 30. Pink Panther #76 31. Popeye #159 32. Super Goof #60 33. Tom and Jerry #330 34. Tweety and Sylvester #106 35. Tweety and Sylvester #107 36. Uncle Scrooge #179 37. Uncle Scrooge #180 38. Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #480 39. Winnie The Pooh #21 40. Yosemite Sam #69 41. Yosemite Sam #70 42. Woody Woodpecker #190 Hope that helps some folks out and gives you a list of books to hunt for. (thumbs u Andy whats the average price range one should expect for these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Very interesting thread. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicwiz Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Looney Tunes #35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicwiz Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Walt Disney Comics & Stories #503 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicwiz Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Yosemite Sam #36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicwiz Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Mickey Mouse and Goofy #169 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicwiz Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Walt Disney Comics & Stories #443 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicwiz Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Huey, Dewey and Louie Junior Wood-Chucks #80 - 75¢ Price Variant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicwiz Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Super Goof #60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolitaireOne Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Great thread, I've wondered about "the list" too... super pics/fun books! (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellrules Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Doug Sulipa actually mentioned in Overstreet 38; that for most Gold Key comics published between 11/71 to 2/80, there are whitman variants of the Gold Key issues. After 8/80, everything reverted to just being published under the Whitman label. The Gold Key issues were sold through newsstand distribution and the Whitmans through bagged sets at drugstores and department stores. They used to be looked at as reprints but now command a premium over their Gold Key counterparts. Here's an example of both versions of Popeye 142. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Doug Sulipa actually mentioned in Overstreet 38; that for most Gold Key comics published between 11/71 to 2/80, there are whitman variants of the Gold Key issues. After 8/80, everything reverted to just being published under the Whitman label. The Gold Key issues were sold through newsstand distribution and the Whitmans through bagged sets at drugstores and department stores. They used to be looked at as reprints but now command a premium over their Gold Key counterparts. Here's an example of both versions of Popeye 142. If that's truly the case, then you would think that Overstreet would want to include them in the price guide. Or are they just waiting for someone to do all of the research for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
