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10 hours ago, Pantodude said:

Go to the Marvel UK price variant thread.  I'm not going to repeat all that here, but that thread needs updating.  That thread has sales data showing that UKPVs have fetched more, albeit inconsistently, but still often don't fetch more (sometimes even less) due to habit/ignorance.  But that nonsense irrationality will yield in time ala Canadian PVs, Australian PVs, 35-cent price variants, and even newsstands (which used to be considered "uglier" than the direct editions and avoided -- ask anyone collecing in the nineties -- but then relative scarcity prevailed and now they fetch premiums, particularly for late 1980s/early 1990s).  It's just a matter of time (already happening as chronicled in the UK price variant thread) for UKPVs to get their due.   Try to find a UKPV for a key that isn't going for a premium on eBay.  It's just [un]common cents.  (thumbsu 

Anyway, there aren't enough sales of UKPVs in general, let alone recently.  And unfortunately, this year's new wave of buyers might not understand UKPVs.  Any trend up we've seen last year and early this year might have taken a step back temporarily.  But as always, time will tell. 

In the meantime, owners of UKPVs (any of the price variants, really) should appreciate what they have without regard to whether the market has caught up to their scarcity.  It's easy to find a SA key in mid grade (i said find, not afford!) for any given issue.  By contrast, there are only a handful of mid-grade UKPVs for early SA keys for sale at all of the major venues (eBay, Heritage, Comic-Ling, ComicConnect, mycomicshop, pedigree, etc) combined!  There are quite literally NO high grades (e.g., 9.0 and above, but even 8.0 and above for many issues!) of UKPVs for early SA keys.  And if you seek a mid-grade UKPV for a specific issue like X-Men1, FF1, IH1, or TTA27, etc, good luck.  It could be months/years waiting for the right opportunity.  Is there another XM1 of FF1 universal mid-grade UKPV for sale anywere today?  Or an IH1?  How about an ASM50?  Or a FF2?  Or JIM83?  Or a ASM1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 13, 14, 15, etc.?  You might never be able to buy one, let alone see one, in ANY grade if you are hunting a specific issue.  That is just crazy uncommon for a Silver Age book.  

 

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On 6/1/2021 at 12:02 AM, innocuous said:

Are you referring to micro chamber paper? Those sheets are usually inside the second wrap. They shouldn’t show through the cover. 

What if they could create a black micro chamber paper?  I believe a black micro chamber paper inserted inside the cover would eliminate the transparency issue as none of the inside writing would show.

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4 hours ago, gadzukes said:

What if they could create a black micro chamber paper?  I believe a black micro chamber paper inserted inside the cover would eliminate the transparency issue as none of the inside writing would show.

I know nothing about paper and ink but my guess is that you'd run the risk of diminishing the eye appeal by "darkening" the cover and you'd also have risk of ink transfer over time.

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5 minutes ago, Sweet Lou 14 said:

I know nothing about paper and ink but my guess is that you'd run the risk of diminishing the eye appeal by "darkening" the cover and you'd also have risk of ink transfer over time.

I think if they were able to create a black microchamber paper, that it would be not only acid free but ink free.

I used to work at a framing gallery and when we framed and matted items that showed translucency, we usually put black paper or a black mat behind to take care of the problem.  It may or may not slightly darken the front cover, but it definitely takes care of the tranlucency problem.

I personally don't like the translucent white covers.

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On 6/4/2021 at 4:00 PM, Batmanis#1 said:

May fetch $1 million dollars. It's no longer impossible.

If this book fetches $1MIL I'm going to take a picture of me with my undies on my head and post it on social media.

Wait, I'm not sure if that sounds like a threat or more incentive for someone to bid it to a million.

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On 6/4/2021 at 2:22 PM, gadzukes said:

I think if they were able to create a black microchamber paper, that it would be not only acid free but ink free.

I used to work at a framing gallery and when we framed and matted items that showed translucency, we usually put black paper or a black mat behind to take care of the problem.  It may or may not slightly darken the front cover, but it definitely takes care of the tranlucency problem.

I personally don't like the translucent white covers.

Black microchamber paper would jump out at you through white covers. The only way that would work was if the paper was exactly the same size as the cover so that the effect would be even across the whole cover.

What may work better would be a newsprint colored, slightly off white paper rather than the stark white one currently being used...but I'm not sure if that would be easy to spot through the cover as well.

The other option is to place the microchamber paper a few wraps in and not behind the cover but then that prevents the protective barrier between the cover and the splash.

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8 minutes ago, VintageComics said:

If this book fetches $1MIL I'm going to take a picture of me with my undies on my head and post it on social media.

Wait, I'm not sure if that sounds like a threat or more incentive for someone to bid it to a million.

If you promise to EAT your undies in a livefeed on Youtube, then i will bid one cool mil.

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Just now, Mr bla bla said:

If you promise to EAT your undies in a livefeed on Youtube, then i will bid one cool mil.

It crossed my mind but since I'm a man of my word and I didn't think I'd be able to pull that one off, I decided against it. (:

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Just now, Mr bla bla said:

Ok, you caught me pants down there 🤥

Come to think of it, now that you have that offer in writing, maybe I'll win the book and sell it to you for a cool Mil after eating my shorts. :gossip:

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22 minutes ago, VintageComics said:

Come to think of it, now that you have that offer in writing, maybe I'll win the book and sell it to you for a cool Mil after eating my shorts. :gossip:

IF you win the book, you will indeed be able to sell it to me for a mil. 

BUT: you must eat your undies.

Oh, and the mil will be 1 mill in

PESETAS.

that will buy you a used Fiat punto.

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