thunsicker Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Question boardies, I was offered a CGC 4.5 of BB 28. At the time, GPA has been late in updating their pricing on this. Can anyone tell me how much should I pay for a 4.5 book? c/ow I would like a price that a "fair" collector is willing to pay I don't want to shoot a lowball offer and disrespect the seller. Thanks Offering $4500 (the most a 4.5 has ever sold for two months ago) shouldn't be seen as an insult to any seller. I'd avoid going over $5000 since there seem to be plenty of them out there. Five sales in the last three months of 4.0-5.0. The one caveat is don't pay more than you can reasonably afford. If $5k is 10% of your yearly take home, look for other books. If 5K is 1% of your yearly take home, have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Question boardies, I was offered a CGC 4.5 of BB 28. At the time, GPA has been late in updating their pricing on this. Can anyone tell me how much should I pay for a 4.5 book? c/ow I would like a price that a "fair" collector is willing to pay I don't want to shoot a lowball offer and disrespect the seller. Thanks Offering $4500 (the most a 4.5 has ever sold for two months ago) shouldn't be seen as an insult to any seller. I'd avoid going over $5000 since there seem to be plenty of them out there. Five sales in the last three months of 4.0-5.0. The one caveat is don't pay more than you can reasonably afford. If $5k is 10% of your yearly take home, look for other books. If 5K is 1% of your yearly take home, have fun. I think 4500 is overpaying, especially for a CR/OW. The 5.0 data is more current and the 90 day average on a 5.0 is 4900 with all three books having Off White pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 The last 4.5 that sold had "Lt/ow" on the the label and that is the current GPA high at $4,500 (another 4.5 with "cr/ow" on the label sold for $3500 just a few weeks before that). Yet a 4.0 sold for about $4,300. Right now I probably wouldn't let a 4.5 go for less than around $5k. There seems to be some price compression between 4.0-5.0, and as always, the "pq" on the label seems to mean little. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 The last 5.0 sold for $5500 as well, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I think for a regular BB28 is around $1000 a point roughly. If book looks better visually and has good PQ, then a slight bump in price seems fair. I just don't see a 4.5 sell for more than $5000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaSealed Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 For a 4.5 I would say between 3800-5300 depending on book. 3800 being for an overgraded copy and $5300 being for a book with upgrade potential. In general a fair collector price would be in the 4.2-4.7 range. That being said with all those green arrows on GPA and the outlook on the book many sellers may not be interested in selling the book at the current time at FMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 For a 4.5 I would say between 3800-5300 depending on book. 3800 being for an overgraded copy and $5300 being for a book with upgrade potential. In general a fair collector price would be in the 4.2-4.7 range. That being said with all those green arrows on GPA and the outlook on the book many sellers may not be interested in selling the book at the current time at FMV. +1 -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Most dealers would sell a book over GPA. Again, GPA is not all complete with their data. It is a good basis more or less on what a book is worth. Private sales take place and some auction houses big or small as well as some dealers do not report sale prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderM Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 For a 4.5 I would say between 3800-5300 depending on book. 3800 being for an overgraded copy and $5300 being for a book with upgrade potential. In general a fair collector price would be in the 4.2-4.7 range. That being said with all those green arrows on GPA and the outlook on the book many sellers may not be interested in selling the book at the current time at FMV. +1 -J. +1 Yes, just looking at GPA90 or more might not get the job done with all those green arrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryAllen Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Question boardies, I was offered a CGC 4.5 of BB 28. At the time, GPA has been late in updating their pricing on this. Can anyone tell me how much should I pay for a 4.5 book? c/ow I would like a price that a "fair" collector is willing to pay I don't want to shoot a lowball offer and disrespect the seller. Thanks Offering $4500 (the most a 4.5 has ever sold for two months ago) shouldn't be seen as an insult to any seller. I'd avoid going over $5000 since there seem to be plenty of them out there. Five sales in the last three months of 4.0-5.0. The one caveat is don't pay more than you can reasonably afford. If $5k is 10% of your yearly take home, look for other books. If 5K is 1% of your yearly take home, have fun. I think 4500 is overpaying, especially for a CR/OW. The 5.0 data is more current and the 90 day average on a 5.0 is 4900 with all three books having Off White pages. Do you report to GPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryAllen Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 For a 4.5 I would say between 3800-5300 depending on book. 3800 being for an overgraded copy and $5300 being for a book with upgrade potential. In general a fair collector price would be in the 4.2-4.7 range. That being said with all those green arrows on GPA and the outlook on the book many sellers may not be interested in selling the book at the current time at FMV. +1 -J. +1 Yes, just looking at GPA90 or more might not get the job done with all those green arrows. Most dealer prices on key books tend to start over GPA. :shrug: On books like this (where majority of sales appear to be private) GPA is usually the low-end of the pricing negotiation. DC keys seem to be more subject to private deals than Marvel due to their relative rarity (or perception of) and the higher frequency of Marvel sales in general. At the end of the day it really depends on what the owner paid for it to begin with. FYI - I love how in one thread data like GPA is vilified and in another it is glorified... (Yes I am taking some liberties with exaggerations, but it is funny.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 For a 4.5 I would say between 3800-5300 depending on book. 3800 being for an overgraded copy and $5300 being for a book with upgrade potential. In general a fair collector price would be in the 4.2-4.7 range. That being said with all those green arrows on GPA and the outlook on the book many sellers may not be interested in selling the book at the current time at FMV. +1 -J. +1 Yes, just looking at GPA90 or more might not get the job done with all those green arrows. Most dealer prices on key books tend to start over GPA. :shrug: On books like this (where majority of sales appear to be private) GPA is usually the low-end of the pricing negotiation. DC keys seem to be more subject to private deals than Marvel due to their relative rarity (or perception of) and the higher frequency of Marvel sales in general. At the end of the day it really depends on what the owner paid for it to begin with. FYI - I love how in one thread data like GPA is vilified and in another it is glorified... (Yes I am taking some liberties with exaggerations, but it is funny.) My thoughts exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumiho Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 So just an update: The CGC 4.5 i was offered to is no longer available. Somebody beat me to it and snagged it for $5750 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoddler Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 So just an update: The CGC 4.5 i was offered to is no longer available. Somebody beat me to it and snagged it for $5750 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 So just an update: The CGC 4.5 i was offered to is no longer available. Somebody beat me to it and snagged it for $5750 Good lord. Early bird gets the worm I suppose. Looks like rfoiii got the closest with his range. Hopefully that dealer reports to GPA. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumiho Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 So just an update: The CGC 4.5 i was offered to is no longer available. Somebody beat me to it and snagged it for $5750 Good lord. Early bird gets the worm I suppose. Looks like rfoiii got the closest with his range. Hopefully that dealer reports to GPA. -J. Yeah tell me about it..my offer was way off ... Just like with the earlier posts in this thread the time to buy is now but the prices are still going up as each week passes by. Hopefully i can find one one still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaSealed Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 2 cents..... Wait for one at auction, you can get a better deal than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumiho Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 2 cents..... Wait for one at auction, you can get a better deal than that. No worries...i am all over that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action252Kid Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 2 cents..... Wait for one at auction, you can get a better deal than that. +1 Words of wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumiho Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 By the way, is there like a BB 28 grail club thread? Maybe there are owners there who would like to sell.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
