Gabagool Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 People have to realize this guy was in the Spider-gwen thread, im sure in NM#98 thread and so fouth and he was ripping on those as well. he think's because he spent his kids college money on a couple of high priced books in his sig, that he the great and powerful wizard of Collector society... Whatever happen to forums rules that specifiy that " If you don't like something, simply just don't comment and leave it alone." apparently that doesn't apply here on CS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 People have to realize this guy was in the Spider-gwen thread, im sure in NM#98 thread and so fouth and he was ripping on those as well. he think's because he spent his kids college money on a couple of high priced books in his sig, that he the great and powerful wizard of Collector society... Whatever happen to forums rules that specifiy that " If you don't like something, simply just don't comment and leave it alone." apparently that doesn't apply here on CS. I'm interested why you would want to shut JDR up? He presents his arguments cogently, if somewhat aggressively. And everyone is free to evaluate the logic and worth of each post. I think the main thing with JDR is that he always uses the terminology of "crashing" I don't see it as crashing at all. It is a period of irrational exuberance that leads to artificially propped up highs. Whether these are fomented by shilling or not is typically a case by case analysis. But those artificial highs, when they correct, can correct precipitously. And for those who are heavily invested, or who have bought in at the top of the market, it certainly looks like a crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I wonder what a 9.8 SS would go for theres only 11.... maybe 10k... heheh I drove 2 hrs to Buena Park to get mine... :: Once the census has been updated for Emerald City, that number is going to double. Anyone that wants to give me 10k for mine, i will fly it to you in person and do interpretive dance on your lawn for 10 minutes, tutor your kids in math, give your wife a backrub and wash your golf clubs before I jump back on a plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabagool Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 People have to realize this guy was in the Spider-gwen thread, im sure in NM#98 thread and so fouth and he was ripping on those as well. he think's because he spent his kids college money on a couple of high priced books in his sig, that he the great and powerful wizard of Collector society... Whatever happen to forums rules that specifiy that " If you don't like something, simply just don't comment and leave it alone." apparently that doesn't apply here on CS. I'm interested why you would want to shut JDR up? He presents his arguments cogently, if somewhat aggressively. And everyone is free to evaluate the logic and worth of each post. I think the main thing with JDR is that he always uses the terminology of "crashing" I don't see it as crashing at all. It is a period of irrational exuberance that leads to artificially propped up highs. Whether these are fomented by shilling or not is typically a case by case analysis. But those artificial highs, when they correct, can correct precipitously. And for those who are heavily invested, or who have bought in at the top of the market, it certainly looks like a crash. Never said i wanted to "shut him up" but realistically and im not the only one that notices it, he is constantly bashing on modern titles, especially ones that start to climb up in some decent value. everyone is entitled to comment on anything on this forum, but it tends to get old and quite annoying real quick when you always see the same person bashing titles that this one person doesn't own or like.... People have to face it that BA#12 in any decent shape or grade is going to fetch good money. Harley Quinn is for some reason a hot character and apparently with the way her current modern series is selling and how Margot robbie has been signed to play her in more then one film is that Harley is here to stay.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 People have to realize this guy was in the Spider-gwen thread, im sure in NM#98 thread and so fouth and he was ripping on those as well. he think's because he spent his kids college money on a couple of high priced books in his sig, that he the great and powerful wizard of Collector society... Whatever happen to forums rules that specifiy that " If you don't like something, simply just don't comment and leave it alone." apparently that doesn't apply here on CS. I'm interested why you would want to shut JDR up? He presents his arguments cogently, if somewhat aggressively. And everyone is free to evaluate the logic and worth of each post. I think the main thing with JDR is that he always uses the terminology of "crashing" I don't see it as crashing at all. It is a period of irrational exuberance that leads to artificially propped up highs. Whether these are fomented by shilling or not is typically a case by case analysis. But those artificial highs, when they correct, can correct precipitously. And for those who are heavily invested, or who have bought in at the top of the market, it certainly looks like a crash. Never said i wanted to "shut him up" but realistically and im not the only one that notices it, he is constantly bashing on modern titles, especially ones that start to climb up in some decent value. everyone is entitled to comment on anything on this forum, but it tends to get old and quite annoying real quick when you always see the same person bashing titles that this one person doesn't own or like.... People have to face it that BA#12 in any decent shape or grade is going to fetch good money. Harley Quinn is for some reason a hot character and apparently with the way her current modern series is selling and how Margot robbie has been signed to play her in more then one film is that Harley is here to stay.... I agree with the fetch good money thing. But if it settles back down in the $800-$1200 range for a 9.8, what does that mean for the people that may buy in at irrationally (My terminology) high levels like $2000-2500 or even higher. That is still real good money, but to the top end purchasers, it doesn't feel good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTLarsen Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 People have to realize this guy was in the Spider-gwen thread, im sure in NM#98 thread and so fouth and he was ripping on those as well. he think's because he spent his kids college money on a couple of high priced books in his sig, that he the great and powerful wizard of Collector society... Whatever happen to forums rules that specifiy that " If you don't like something, simply just don't comment and leave it alone." apparently that doesn't apply here on CS. I'm interested why you would want to shut JDR up? He presents his arguments cogently, if somewhat aggressively. And everyone is free to evaluate the logic and worth of each post. I think the main thing with JDR is that he always uses the terminology of "crashing" I don't see it as crashing at all. It is a period of irrational exuberance that leads to artificially propped up highs. Whether these are fomented by shilling or not is typically a case by case analysis. But those artificial highs, when they correct, can correct precipitously. And for those who are heavily invested, or who have bought in at the top of the market, it certainly looks like a crash. Never said i wanted to "shut him up" but realistically and im not the only one that notices it, he is constantly bashing on modern titles, especially ones that start to climb up in some decent value. everyone is entitled to comment on anything on this forum, but it tends to get old and quite annoying real quick when you always see the same person bashing titles that this one person doesn't own or like.... People have to face it that BA#12 in any decent shape or grade is going to fetch good money. Harley Quinn is for some reason a hot character and apparently with the way her current modern series is selling and how Margot robbie has been signed to play her in more then one film is that Harley is here to stay.... I agree with the fetch good money thing. But if it settles back down in the $800-$1200 range for a 9.8, what does that mean for the people that may buy in at irrationally (My terminology) high levels like $2000-2500 or even higher. That is still real good money, but to the top end purchasers, it doesn't feel good. For the record, I infinitely prefer having naysayers around to make the contrary argument. Right or wrong, I want to hear the argument against. For every book. Every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 People have to realize this guy was in the Spider-gwen thread, im sure in NM#98 thread and so fouth and he was ripping on those as well. he think's because he spent his kids college money on a couple of high priced books in his sig, that he the great and powerful wizard of Collector society... Whatever happen to forums rules that specifiy that " If you don't like something, simply just don't comment and leave it alone." apparently that doesn't apply here on CS. I'm interested why you would want to shut JDR up? He presents his arguments cogently, if somewhat aggressively. And everyone is free to evaluate the logic and worth of each post. I think the main thing with JDR is that he always uses the terminology of "crashing" I don't see it as crashing at all. It is a period of irrational exuberance that leads to artificially propped up highs. Whether these are fomented by shilling or not is typically a case by case analysis. But those artificial highs, when they correct, can correct precipitously. And for those who are heavily invested, or who have bought in at the top of the market, it certainly looks like a crash. Never said i wanted to "shut him up" but realistically and im not the only one that notices it, he is constantly bashing on modern titles, especially ones that start to climb up in some decent value. everyone is entitled to comment on anything on this forum, but it tends to get old and quite annoying real quick when you always see the same person bashing titles that this one person doesn't own or like.... People have to face it that BA#12 in any decent shape or grade is going to fetch good money. Harley Quinn is for some reason a hot character and apparently with the way her current modern series is selling and how Margot robbie has been signed to play her in more then one film is that Harley is here to stay.... I agree with the fetch good money thing. But if it settles back down in the $800-$1200 range for a 9.8, what does that mean for the people that may buy in at irrationally (My terminology) high levels like $2000-2500 or even higher. That is still real good money, but to the top end purchasers, it doesn't feel good. For the record, I infinitely prefer having naysayers around to make the contrary argument. Right or wrong, I want to hear the argument against. For every book. Every time. Me too. To use a sports analogy - If I am watching a game I will enjoy it a lot more with solid critical commentary (even if I don't agree) than listening to the cheerleaders all game long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hekla Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 People have to realize this guy was in the Spider-gwen thread, im sure in NM#98 thread and so fouth and he was ripping on those as well. he think's because he spent his kids college money on a couple of high priced books in his sig, that he the great and powerful wizard of Collector society... Whatever happen to forums rules that specifiy that " If you don't like something, simply just don't comment and leave it alone." apparently that doesn't apply here on CS. I'm interested why you would want to shut JDR up? He presents his arguments cogently, if somewhat aggressively. And everyone is free to evaluate the logic and worth of each post. I think the main thing with JDR is that he always uses the terminology of "crashing" I don't see it as crashing at all. It is a period of irrational exuberance that leads to artificially propped up highs. Whether these are fomented by shilling or not is typically a case by case analysis. But those artificial highs, when they correct, can correct precipitously. And for those who are heavily invested, or who have bought in at the top of the market, it certainly looks like a crash. Never said i wanted to "shut him up" but realistically and im not the only one that notices it, he is constantly bashing on modern titles, especially ones that start to climb up in some decent value. everyone is entitled to comment on anything on this forum, but it tends to get old and quite annoying real quick when you always see the same person bashing titles that this one person doesn't own or like.... People have to face it that BA#12 in any decent shape or grade is going to fetch good money. Harley Quinn is for some reason a hot character and apparently with the way her current modern series is selling and how Margot robbie has been signed to play her in more then one film is that Harley is here to stay.... I agree with the fetch good money thing. But if it settles back down in the $800-$1200 range for a 9.8, what does that mean for the people that may buy in at irrationally (My terminology) high levels like $2000-2500 or even higher. That is still real good money, but to the top end purchasers, it doesn't feel good. For the record, I infinitely prefer having naysayers around to make the contrary argument. Right or wrong, I want to hear the argument against. For every book. Every time. Me too. To use a sports analogy - If I am watching a game I will enjoy it a lot more with solid critical commentary (even if I don't agree) than listening to the cheerleaders all game long. +1 Good analogy, Sean. I love watching the Phoenix Suns but hate listening to the homers on the local station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshepard81 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I love watching the Phoenix Suns but hate listening to the homers on the local station. You just need the right kind of homer. I grew up a Celtics fan and hearing Tommy Heinsohn do the commentary makes games so much more enjoyable for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatcomicbookguy Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 People have to realize this guy was in the Spider-gwen thread, im sure in NM#98 thread and so fouth and he was ripping on those as well. he think's because he spent his kids college money on a couple of high priced books in his sig, that he the great and powerful wizard of Collector society... Whatever happen to forums rules that specifiy that " If you don't like something, simply just don't comment and leave it alone." apparently that doesn't apply here on CS. I'm interested why you would want to shut JDR up? He presents his arguments cogently, if somewhat aggressively. And everyone is free to evaluate the logic and worth of each post. I think the main thing with JDR is that he always uses the terminology of "crashing" I don't see it as crashing at all. It is a period of irrational exuberance that leads to artificially propped up highs. Whether these are fomented by shilling or not is typically a case by case analysis. But those artificial highs, when they correct, can correct precipitously. And for those who are heavily invested, or who have bought in at the top of the market, it certainly looks like a crash. Never said i wanted to "shut him up" but realistically and im not the only one that notices it, he is constantly bashing on modern titles, especially ones that start to climb up in some decent value. everyone is entitled to comment on anything on this forum, but it tends to get old and quite annoying real quick when you always see the same person bashing titles that this one person doesn't own or like.... People have to face it that BA#12 in any decent shape or grade is going to fetch good money. Harley Quinn is for some reason a hot character and apparently with the way her current modern series is selling and how Margot robbie has been signed to play her in more then one film is that Harley is here to stay.... I agree with the fetch good money thing. But if it settles back down in the $800-$1200 range for a 9.8, what does that mean for the people that may buy in at irrationally (My terminology) high levels like $2000-2500 or even higher. That is still real good money, but to the top end purchasers, it doesn't feel good. Yeah it sends shivers up my spine when I look at the gpa to see books that have sold a few years earlier for triple of what they are now. I think I remember seeing a 9.8 Asm 129 go for 13 and a hulk 181 go for 25 or even 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snikt!1988 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I wonder what a 9.8 SS would go for theres only 11.... maybe 10k... heheh I drove 2 hrs to Buena Park to get mine... :: Once the census has been updated for Emerald City, that number is going to double. Anyone that wants to give me 10k for mine, i will fly it to you in person and do interpretive dance on your lawn for 10 minutes, tutor your kids in math, give your wife a backrub and wash your golf clubs before I jump back on a plane. the way books have been selling nowadays might as well price for the the future... if it jumps to 23... I'll have to dump it... i like to keep my books relationship numbers low... who wants to keep a Amber Rose post Kanye anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabagool Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 People have to realize this guy was in the Spider-gwen thread, im sure in NM#98 thread and so fouth and he was ripping on those as well. he think's because he spent his kids college money on a couple of high priced books in his sig, that he the great and powerful wizard of Collector society... Whatever happen to forums rules that specifiy that " If you don't like something, simply just don't comment and leave it alone." apparently that doesn't apply here on CS. I'm interested why you would want to shut JDR up? He presents his arguments cogently, if somewhat aggressively. And everyone is free to evaluate the logic and worth of each post. I think the main thing with JDR is that he always uses the terminology of "crashing" I don't see it as crashing at all. It is a period of irrational exuberance that leads to artificially propped up highs. Whether these are fomented by shilling or not is typically a case by case analysis. But those artificial highs, when they correct, can correct precipitously. And for those who are heavily invested, or who have bought in at the top of the market, it certainly looks like a crash. Never said i wanted to "shut him up" but realistically and im not the only one that notices it, he is constantly bashing on modern titles, especially ones that start to climb up in some decent value. everyone is entitled to comment on anything on this forum, but it tends to get old and quite annoying real quick when you always see the same person bashing titles that this one person doesn't own or like.... People have to face it that BA#12 in any decent shape or grade is going to fetch good money. Harley Quinn is for some reason a hot character and apparently with the way her current modern series is selling and how Margot robbie has been signed to play her in more then one film is that Harley is here to stay.... I agree with the fetch good money thing. But if it settles back down in the $800-$1200 range for a 9.8, what does that mean for the people that may buy in at irrationally (My terminology) high levels like $2000-2500 or even higher. That is still real good money, but to the top end purchasers, it doesn't feel good. well of course it's not going to feel good, but it's the luck of the draw like anything else.... it just means they bought one at the wrong time and thats it. I can NEVER picture this particular comic dropping significant value like what Mr negativity always tends to put in every thread about XYZ comic book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Well, I will just have to agree to disagree, because I see guys like JDR as being a rational counterpoint to the irrational exuberance exhibited by some buyers. I don't always agree with him, either, but I like hearing what he has to say to counter the hucksters, snake oil salesmen, pump and dumpers, and carnival barkers that infest the speculation game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabagool Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Well, I will just have to agree to disagree, because I see guys like JDR as being a rational counterpoint to the irrational exuberance exhibited by some buyers. I don't always agree with him, either, but I like hearing what he has to say to counter the hucksters, snake oil salesmen, pump and dumpers, and carnival barkers that infest the speculation game. thats also agreeable, this forum is mostly comic dealers and ebay sellers and they claim everything is going to be the next big thing. it's quite obvious now even with the whole Spider-gwen. prices for her first appearance, special first issue variants and so fourth have now averaged out and all the band wagon jumpers have disappeared from that thread. while they are still semi maintaining decent value, they are still nowhere near what BA#12 value is. Now i will simply just have to agree with everyone else who felt the same way about Mr JDR... once again he has came through numerous threads and just started putting down numerous titles since i've been a member on here. he is also speculating as well.... i don't see anything on his info about him being a Professional when it comes to comics and all of their values and how they will sell. he nor anyone else can predict the outcome of any of these books whether they flop or they end up becoming the next big money title to hold onto for the next 10 plus years or so. hell the guy even insulted my sig at one point... saying why don't i get some "big boy books" because mine weren't in the price range of a down payment on a new car or anything to that nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I wonder what a 9.8 SS would go for theres only 11.... maybe 10k... heheh I drove 2 hrs to Buena Park to get mine... :: Once the census has been updated for Emerald City, that number is going to double. Anyone that wants to give me 10k for mine, i will fly it to you in person and do interpretive dance on your lawn for 10 minutes, tutor your kids in math, give your wife a backrub and wash your golf clubs before I jump back on a plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 hell the guy even insulted my sig at one point... saying why don't i get some "big boy books" because mine weren't in the price range of a down payment on a new car or anything to that nature. Did he actually do that? If yes, that is a douchey move. It does not matter what type of grail book a collector has, the important thing is that they have a collecting goal in mind and achieve it. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizenvain Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 hell the guy even insulted my sig at one point... saying why don't i get some "big boy books" because mine weren't in the price range of a down payment on a new car or anything to that nature. Did he actually do that? If yes, that is a douchey move. He did, and it was. But I laughed out loud. I'm a bad person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 hell the guy even insulted my sig at one point... saying why don't i get some "big boy books" because mine weren't in the price range of a down payment on a new car or anything to that nature. Did he actually do that? If yes, that is a douchey move. It does not matter what type of grail book a collector has, the important thing is that they have a collecting goal in mind and achieve it. (thumbs u Yep I said it. Guy had it coming too. He was being condescending and making attempted personal attacks because I dared to question the long term staying power and viability of what-if Gwen at the height of the hype and hysterics. Sound familiar ? And I actually agree with you about each collector and his goals. There was a caveat on my statement to him where I also said I liked his books. Dude was just out of line at the time, and I'm not sure what relevance any of it has in this thread. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatcomicbookguy Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Is it possible if we can move the he said she said thing somewhere else? It's kinda bumming me out.... Has anyone else seen the DC pack that has the original packaging of the BA12 in it. Asking 1k for it. It is cool but the book has some flaking in the top left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I got myself a BA 12 today. So I have joined the club. It is likely 8.0-8.5 and I have not yet decided what to do with it. I have never contemplated clean and press until now! Anyway, I will likely scan and ask questions soon enough, but wanted to mention my find. Now back to that other thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
