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[jabats]

I just bought this from Rick.

Another Okajima Camp book that looks like "Okagima" in the signature. 

[jabats]

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As good a time as any to throw this out there -- here's my Space Detective #1, which I love, had it since '99. Any chance this marking could be that of a post-camp Okajima? Thanks for all opinions. 

 

It doesn't look like any of the post-camp books I have. Mine are all marked "vertically" with the distributor marks. I'm not an expert though.

[Robot Man]

2 hours ago, jabats said:

I just bought this from Rick.

Another Okajima Camp book that looks like "Okagima" in the signature. 

Very cool book! Congrats! I remember seeing that one in the box when I bought  some from Ron. Just didn’t have the dough at the time to buy all the ones I wanted. 

[skypinkblu]

8 hours ago, jabats said:

I just bought this from Rick.

Another Okajima Camp book that looks like "Okagima" in the signature. 

Nice! I know he picked that up fairly recently, I don't remember if it was from Heritage or eBay but I know it had been on my watch list and I was hesitant because of the "g". Congrats on your new book, the more I look at it, the more I like it:) .

[adamstrange]

On 2/20/2019 at 4:15 PM, originalisbest said:

As good a time as any to throw this out there -- here's my Space Detective #1, which I love, had it since '99. Any chance this marking could be that of a post-camp Okajima? Thanks for all opinions.

It is not a typical distributor code for an Okajima.

[originalisbest]

On 2/24/2019 at 1:05 AM, adamstrange said:

It is not a typical distributor code for an Okajima.

I appreciate the clarity! It "rhymed" to me with another purportedly Okajima I saw, but probably wishful thinking. Interesting and too bad, that unless it's clearly a camp book, 2/3rds of the collection extant are mostly to definitely impossible to identify.

[skypinkblu]

5 hours ago, originalisbest said:

I appreciate the clarity! It "rhymed" to me with another purportedly Okajima I saw, but probably wishful thinking. Interesting and too bad, that unless it's clearly a camp book, 2/3rds of the collection extant are mostly to definitely impossible to identify.

If it helps, it's a great book! 

[originalisbest]

31 minutes ago, skypinkblu said:

If it helps, it's a great book! 

Thanks much! No worries about that on my end -- I think I got it back in '99, and it's been one of my most fave books since.

[SushiX]

bought this as a okajima:) 

[path4play]

7 hours ago, SushiX said:

bought this as a okajima:) 

Cool, by records I've compiled from this thread, the last known signed/coded book is coded "4x" from 9/13/44.

The first known date stamp is 10/10/44 (there is an earlier Fighting Yank #10 Okajima - the record is from GPA so no photo (aka unknown if signed or stamped).

There is also a date stamped the same day as your Blue Bolt, Shadow Comics #v4#9 [45] (Date Stamp 11/11/44).

 

 

Edited February 28, 2019 by path4play

[SushiX]

23 minutes ago, path4play said:

Cool, by records I've compiled from this thread, the last known signed/coded book is coded "4x" from 9/13/44.

The first known date stamp is 10/10/44 (there is an earlier Fighting Yank #10 Okajima - the record is from GPA so no photo (aka unknown if signed or stamped).

There is also a date stamped the same day as your Blue Bolt, Shadow Comics #v4#9 [45] (Date Stamp 11/11/44).

 

 

thank you for the info!

[EBE]

So are the boards saying that a comic that is date stamped from 1944 and has no other markings could be an Okajima??

Or does that Blue Bolt have other markings that aren't visible in the scan provided by SushiX that would confirm its pedigree?

--ElJay

[SushiX]

2 hours ago, path4play said:

Cool, by records I've compiled from this thread, the last known signed/coded book is coded "4x" from 9/13/44.

The first known date stamp is 10/10/44 (there is an earlier Fighting Yank #10 Okajima - the record is from GPA so no photo (aka unknown if signed or stamped).

There is also a date stamped the same day as your Blue Bolt, Shadow Comics #v4#9 [45] (Date Stamp 11/11/44).

 

 

is it normal to have 2 stamps Nov 11 44? mine has 1 on front cover and 1 on the back...

[path4play]

9 hours ago, EBE said:

So are the boards saying that a comic that is date stamped from 1944 and has no other markings could be an Okajima??

Or does that Blue Bolt have other markings that aren't visible in the scan provided by SushiX that would confirm its pedigree?

--ElJay

I'm only saying that the date and stamp "fits" into the realm of possibility given the date and timing. I presume other clues like page quality etc., would also be tell-tales.  Nothing short of a Certificate of Authenticity (COA) from the seller I guess would be a guarantee.  Unfortunately, as has been discussed here recently, the majority of copies probably don't have a COA.  That leaves the sellers word, he could probably add to the "provenance" by retelling whose hands it passed through.

[path4play]

7 hours ago, SushiX said:

is it normal to have 2 stamps Nov 11 44? mine has 1 on front cover and 1 on the back...

My Police #39 just a few posts earlier on this thread has two on the front.  I think in this thread somewhere there is stamp front and date written on back? 

[EBE]

3 hours ago, path4play said:

I'm only saying that the date and stamp "fits" into the realm of possibility given the date and timing. I presume other clues like page quality etc., would also be tell-tales.  Nothing short of a Certificate of Authenticity (COA) from the seller I guess would be a guarantee.  Unfortunately, as has been discussed here recently, the majority of copies probably don't have a COA.  That leaves the sellers word, he could probably add to the "provenance" by retelling whose hands it passed through.

Thanks for the response; that was a helpful clarification.

--ElJay

[jabats]

I was hoping this 1943 Okajima book would go under the radar, as the bid price was quite low when it entered the live auction.

It didn't end up going totally under the radar, as the price escalated quickly in the live auction, but I'm still happy with the purchase.

I have several 1944 Okajima books, but this is the earliest by a significant margin. No camp codings, but a signature.

... Would 1943 be considered a "camp book" or a "camp era book"? Am I correct that some of the other camp books lack the codings as well (especially the earlier ones)?

 

[deadleg]

8 minutes ago, jabats said:

I was hoping this 1943 Okajima book would go under the radar, as the bid price was quite low when it entered the live auction.

It didn't end up going totally under the radar, as the price escalated quickly in the live auction, but I'm still happy with the purchase.

I have several 1944 Okajima books, but this is the earliest by a significant margin. No camp codings, but a signature.

... Would 1943 be considered a "camp book" or a "camp era book"? Am I correct that some of the other camp books lack the codings as well (especially the earlier ones)?

 

Yes. There aren't many, but there are some early camp books that don't have codes. Nice book! 

Edited March 11, 2019 by deadleg

[telerites]

3 minutes ago, jabats said:

I was hoping this 1943 Okajima book would go under the radar, as the bid price was quite low when it entered the live auction.

It didn't end up going totally under the radar, as the price escalated quickly in the live auction, but I'm still happy with the purchase.

I have several 1944 Okajima books, but this is the earliest by a significant margin. No camp codings, but a signature.

... Would 1943 be considered a "camp book" or a "camp era book"? Am I correct that some of the other camp books lack the codings as well (especially the earlier ones)?

 

 

I had it tracked but 12 bills was too rich for me.  Congrats 

[jabats]

One "mystery" to me...

1. If Okajima herself signed her name, why is it sometimes spelled "Okagima" and other times "Okajima"?
2. Yet the signatures all appear to be in the same handwriting. If the person signing the books were actually selling the books to Okajima, why wouldn't that person consistently spell her name right? And why would that person "code" her books?